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		<title>By: watwutwot</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-119299</link>
		<dc:creator>watwutwot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CLOCKTOWER ANECDOTE PLZ YUO BIG TEASE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CLOCKTOWER ANECDOTE PLZ YUO BIG TEASE!</p>
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		<title>By: MrMud</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-100769</link>
		<dc:creator>MrMud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One could argue that not including StarCraft on a top 100 pc games list is equivalent to sacrilege...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could argue that not including StarCraft on a top 100 pc games list is equivalent to sacrilege&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A Fuller Life: HL1 vs HL2 &#124; Rock, Paper, Shotgun</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-100621</link>
		<dc:creator>A Fuller Life: HL1 vs HL2 &#124; Rock, Paper, Shotgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the annual Who Can Shout The Loudest competition that is the PC Gamer UK Top 100 meeting, there are rules. These rules differ from year to year, and in 2008 one of them was “only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the annual Who Can Shout The Loudest competition that is the PC Gamer UK Top 100 meeting, there are rules. These rules differ from year to year, and in 2008 one of them was “only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rock, Paper, Shotgun &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dungeon of Regret</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-1655</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock, Paper, Shotgun &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dungeon of Regret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gathered in someone&#8217;s front room to eat pizza-pie, play a lot of Peggle and come up with a quasi-arbitrary list of the best 100 PC titles they could remember at the time. There were several games whose sole voice of nomination in the room was my own nasal insistence, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gathered in someone&#8217;s front room to eat pizza-pie, play a lot of Peggle and come up with a quasi-arbitrary list of the best 100 PC titles they could remember at the time. There were several games whose sole voice of nomination in the room was my own nasal insistence, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough; I will be reading, though the chances of my buying Bioshock no matter how exciting are, well, slim. 

I sort of don&#039;t think of Nethack as quite being a PC game, but yes, in terms of &#039;what classic games do the great mass of gamers spend time playing even now&#039;, a roguelike should definitely be in there. (For those who don&#039;t strongly identify with the @ key, I&#039;d suggest Fate).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough; I will be reading, though the chances of my buying Bioshock no matter how exciting are, well, slim. </p>
<p>I sort of don&#8217;t think of Nethack as quite being a PC game, but yes, in terms of &#8216;what classic games do the great mass of gamers spend time playing even now&#8217;, a roguelike should definitely be in there. (For those who don&#8217;t strongly identify with the @ key, I&#8217;d suggest Fate).</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking specifically about my cunning tactic of shouting PEGGLE! pretty much at every opportunity, so infecting everyone else with it and making it inevitable it&#039;d appear. Clearly, you had my back, but I was the Napoleon of Peggle.

KG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking specifically about my cunning tactic of shouting PEGGLE! pretty much at every opportunity, so infecting everyone else with it and making it inevitable it&#8217;d appear. Clearly, you had my back, but I was the Napoleon of Peggle.</p>
<p>KG</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Meer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec Meer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You’re talking to the man who talked Peggle into being in the Top 40.&quot;
That&#039;s &quot;one of the men.&quot; Cheeky!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’re talking to the man who talked Peggle into being in the Top 40.&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s &#8220;one of the men.&#8221; Cheeky!</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re talking to the man who talked Peggle into being in the Top 40, so I&#039;ve got my sympathy actually. I suspect if you let *me* write a Top 100, you&#039;d end up with one a little more line with your desires. On a more indie area, whether Nethack or another Roguelike ends up in the Top 100 pretty much depends whether it&#039;s a year whether I can be bothered fighting the tide of group-think and facing a lot of &quot;Oh no! Here comes the letter &quot;C&quot;!&quot; mockery.

(That said, to be fair, Gamer do hire me to write a load of indie stuff I like for the magazine. Not many mags would have let me write 6 pages on ZangbandTk or a full spread on Dwarf Fortress or whatever. And to be fair to their Top 100, it doesn&#039;t make a pretense of being a definitive list of best games ever, but rather  the magazine&#039;s favourite games in one day circa Summer 2007.)

And, I think if you stick around you&#039;ll be pleased to find what we cover. In fact, if you wander through the archives, you&#039;ll find stories on pretty much everything. Try the tags &quot;indie&quot; or &quot;webgame&quot; or &quot;casual&quot; to see what turns up. It&#039;s a coincidence the week we&#039;ve chosen to launch is also the week the most exciting first-person game in five years has chosen to come out.

Which is, of course, the one thing I&#039;m not actually going to apologise for covering. It&#039;d be as much as a lie not too.

KG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re talking to the man who talked Peggle into being in the Top 40, so I&#8217;ve got my sympathy actually. I suspect if you let *me* write a Top 100, you&#8217;d end up with one a little more line with your desires. On a more indie area, whether Nethack or another Roguelike ends up in the Top 100 pretty much depends whether it&#8217;s a year whether I can be bothered fighting the tide of group-think and facing a lot of &#8220;Oh no! Here comes the letter &#8220;C&#8221;!&#8221; mockery.</p>
<p>(That said, to be fair, Gamer do hire me to write a load of indie stuff I like for the magazine. Not many mags would have let me write 6 pages on ZangbandTk or a full spread on Dwarf Fortress or whatever. And to be fair to their Top 100, it doesn&#8217;t make a pretense of being a definitive list of best games ever, but rather  the magazine&#8217;s favourite games in one day circa Summer 2007.)</p>
<p>And, I think if you stick around you&#8217;ll be pleased to find what we cover. In fact, if you wander through the archives, you&#8217;ll find stories on pretty much everything. Try the tags &#8220;indie&#8221; or &#8220;webgame&#8221; or &#8220;casual&#8221; to see what turns up. It&#8217;s a coincidence the week we&#8217;ve chosen to launch is also the week the most exciting first-person game in five years has chosen to come out.</p>
<p>Which is, of course, the one thing I&#8217;m not actually going to apologise for covering. It&#8217;d be as much as a lie not too.</p>
<p>KG</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the EDGE list may not be perfect, but it&#039;s a lot closer than the dreary PC Gamer list. You&#039;ve got Peggle as the one representative of casual gaming in the list; it&#039;s cute, but not my cup of tea. But where are all the other casual games? No Freecell, Tetris or Bejewelled. Not one game from the amazing Gamelab, who consistently produce fabulously playable casual games like no other. Nothing from the all-smothering hidden object genre, surely the key 2007 casual gaming trend. 

And looking at classic games, although some of the key ones are there, plenty aren&#039;t. Only one, obscure, non-Infocom text adventure, but several graphic adventures that are played for laughs. No spot for Master of Magic, the game that even now causes otherwise sane people to wrestle with Dos Box in an effort to get it running on their whizzy new PC. 

Instead, what do we have? Game after game in tired genres for teenage boys with too much time on their hands. Combat, sports, cars. Occasionally spies. The odd holocaust. A game is celebrated for how agreeably it allows you to kill time wandering around the map; another for helping people realise that gameplay doesn&#039;t really count without graphics.

Next time you&#039;re wondering why PC gamers are &#039;persecuted&#039;, try considering what proportion of the &#039;greatest games of all time&#039; involve a viewpoint character, seen in first person, interacting with the game through the use of a weapon. You know, perhaps it would be reasonable to have a few games like that in the top 100, but surely not more than four or five? 

The great thing about being a gamer this year is that suddenly, everybody, all at once, seems to have spotted that this is actually a minority taste and is out there making all the games for the rest of us. 

And a lot of those great games are PC games and you ought to be covering them in this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the EDGE list may not be perfect, but it&#8217;s a lot closer than the dreary PC Gamer list. You&#8217;ve got Peggle as the one representative of casual gaming in the list; it&#8217;s cute, but not my cup of tea. But where are all the other casual games? No Freecell, Tetris or Bejewelled. Not one game from the amazing Gamelab, who consistently produce fabulously playable casual games like no other. Nothing from the all-smothering hidden object genre, surely the key 2007 casual gaming trend. </p>
<p>And looking at classic games, although some of the key ones are there, plenty aren&#8217;t. Only one, obscure, non-Infocom text adventure, but several graphic adventures that are played for laughs. No spot for Master of Magic, the game that even now causes otherwise sane people to wrestle with Dos Box in an effort to get it running on their whizzy new PC. </p>
<p>Instead, what do we have? Game after game in tired genres for teenage boys with too much time on their hands. Combat, sports, cars. Occasionally spies. The odd holocaust. A game is celebrated for how agreeably it allows you to kill time wandering around the map; another for helping people realise that gameplay doesn&#8217;t really count without graphics.</p>
<p>Next time you&#8217;re wondering why PC gamers are &#8216;persecuted&#8217;, try considering what proportion of the &#8216;greatest games of all time&#8217; involve a viewpoint character, seen in first person, interacting with the game through the use of a weapon. You know, perhaps it would be reasonable to have a few games like that in the top 100, but surely not more than four or five? </p>
<p>The great thing about being a gamer this year is that suddenly, everybody, all at once, seems to have spotted that this is actually a minority taste and is out there making all the games for the rest of us. </p>
<p>And a lot of those great games are PC games and you ought to be covering them in this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU COULD GUEST BLOG IT!

KG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU COULD GUEST BLOG IT!</p>
<p>KG</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/16/in-with-a-bullet-at-number-56-outcast/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope.

KG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.</p>
<p>KG</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Stuart Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Stuart Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely I&#039;ve told everyone on the fricking *planet* the clocktower anecdote by now? At least twice.</description>
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