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	<title>Comments on: ErotiSim: Sex and The Sims</title>
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		<title>By: Roulex</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/23/erotisim-sex-and-the-sims/comment-page-1/#comment-360657</link>
		<dc:creator>Roulex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe I just read this... amazing piece of journalism. Thank you for your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I just read this&#8230; amazing piece of journalism. Thank you for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Wot I Think: About That Level &#124; Rock, Paper, Shotgun</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/23/erotisim-sex-and-the-sims/comment-page-1/#comment-360353</link>
		<dc:creator>Wot I Think: About That Level &#124; Rock, Paper, Shotgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than that. People&#8217;s response seems to change depending on who you play with or in front of. It&#8217;s like an inverse of the ErotiSim reaction I talked about previously. Playing with friends, we all fucked around with the Sims. Playing by myself, I took the emotional [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] than that. People&#8217;s response seems to change depending on who you play with or in front of. It&#8217;s like an inverse of the ErotiSim reaction I talked about previously. Playing with friends, we all fucked around with the Sims. Playing by myself, I took the emotional [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Redd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really good piece.</description>
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		<title>By: Redd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delicious.</description>
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		<title>By: zipdrive</title>
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		<dc:creator>zipdrive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent piece. One which makes you think.
Specifically, it made me think: &quot;gosh, I&#039;ll never be able to right this kind of stuff. Here goes my dream of being a game jouno.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent piece. One which makes you think.<br />
Specifically, it made me think: &#8220;gosh, I&#8217;ll never be able to right this kind of stuff. Here goes my dream of being a game jouno.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lone_Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/23/erotisim-sex-and-the-sims/comment-page-1/#comment-174331</link>
		<dc:creator>Lone_Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blonde kitten is right
sex is the key to life. this game allows you to create charcters that you fall in love with . and when life get hard and depressing you can dive it to there world.  relive how you things should be lived.  the sims is a life simulation game how can you simulate life with out sex
for the sim3 make a sepreate expansion pak with sex and etc and etc.
having this  virtual sex with virtual characters of ourselves will not tempt us to go have sex
teenagers bodies are overflowing with hormones do this do that are body tells
us
and virtual sex with virtual characters help easy the rush of hormones 
i my self have download many mods for this game to releave my life
for the sims 4 i hope they get rid of simlish and put real voices it would allow people to get deeper into there characters
blode kitten is right in the fourth grade we get that all about the human body
children now what sex is by 7 children strt cusing in thrid gade
were not innocent and that will never chang EA make a expansion pak put rate it adult and just ride the wave as the poular will fall for a while then people will get more and more into there characters realizing this is a true life simlation game not a shadow  of life but another one
if only you chould use the name Second life because sims 2 is about half way there.  but leave the kidnapping , rape ,a nd other such un bleastes alone lenght the game so the grow up with us slow changing with us
like but the sims online put everyone anoymous just linked by the area were you leave and grow up with the character use a headset play as the character there mistakes are your mistakes have a complete Secound life may be date live grow up buy a house and  get married in the game complete seprate from or real life may this be

sorry for my lack of puntaction and grammar i just put it out there raw and un edited</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blonde kitten is right<br />
sex is the key to life. this game allows you to create charcters that you fall in love with . and when life get hard and depressing you can dive it to there world.  relive how you things should be lived.  the sims is a life simulation game how can you simulate life with out sex<br />
for the sim3 make a sepreate expansion pak with sex and etc and etc.<br />
having this  virtual sex with virtual characters of ourselves will not tempt us to go have sex<br />
teenagers bodies are overflowing with hormones do this do that are body tells<br />
us<br />
and virtual sex with virtual characters help easy the rush of hormones<br />
i my self have download many mods for this game to releave my life<br />
for the sims 4 i hope they get rid of simlish and put real voices it would allow people to get deeper into there characters<br />
blode kitten is right in the fourth grade we get that all about the human body<br />
children now what sex is by 7 children strt cusing in thrid gade<br />
were not innocent and that will never chang EA make a expansion pak put rate it adult and just ride the wave as the poular will fall for a while then people will get more and more into there characters realizing this is a true life simlation game not a shadow  of life but another one<br />
if only you chould use the name Second life because sims 2 is about half way there.  but leave the kidnapping , rape ,a nd other such un bleastes alone lenght the game so the grow up with us slow changing with us<br />
like but the sims online put everyone anoymous just linked by the area were you leave and grow up with the character use a headset play as the character there mistakes are your mistakes have a complete Secound life may be date live grow up buy a house and  get married in the game complete seprate from or real life may this be</p>
<p>sorry for my lack of puntaction and grammar i just put it out there raw and un edited</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/23/erotisim-sex-and-the-sims/comment-page-1/#comment-94861</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed this article a lot. It&#039;s refreshing to find substantial and coherent articles about gaming. Excellent site all round.

One thing though, surely it&#039;s Clark&#039;s &#039;2001: A Space Odyssey&#039;, not Kubrick&#039;s. It&#039;s one of my favourite films but the themes are from the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed this article a lot. It&#8217;s refreshing to find substantial and coherent articles about gaming. Excellent site all round.</p>
<p>One thing though, surely it&#8217;s Clark&#8217;s &#8216;2001: A Space Odyssey&#8217;, not Kubrick&#8217;s. It&#8217;s one of my favourite films but the themes are from the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/23/erotisim-sex-and-the-sims/comment-page-1/#comment-78431</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. I think that some weird sexual stuff turns up isn&#039;t that surprising. There&#039;s plenty of other weird stuff: custom content zombies, blood-smeared furniture, suicide swords... death and sex are interesting and so they turn up in the game. Also, some custom content is made plainly for the weirdness of it.

For me the most interesting thing about Sims2 is: (1) reaching long-term stuff like life wishes or challenges and (2) getting medieval or asiatic surroundings perfectly right. So good non-barbie skins are great for the same reason that a medieval looking car is great: A body without nipples is just as jarring as a porsche parking beside a castle.

It&#039;s true that there is a tension in the moment when a Sim is trying to get romantic (wether it&#039;s the first kiss or making out) but for me the tension is the same when I play a chance card that could get my Sim promoted or laid off his job. 

But the main reason that I have difficulties believing that anyone would get mildly sexually aroused from this game: No matter what sort of weird, beautiful, scary or obscene custom content someone comes up with; play it ten times round and it get&#039;s boring. 

I think the longest-living kick about Sims is finding new stuff (objects, clothing, skins, dildos...) and maybe at last creating it yourself. Which is why expansion packs turn up regularly and why there are so many download sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. I think that some weird sexual stuff turns up isn&#8217;t that surprising. There&#8217;s plenty of other weird stuff: custom content zombies, blood-smeared furniture, suicide swords&#8230; death and sex are interesting and so they turn up in the game. Also, some custom content is made plainly for the weirdness of it.</p>
<p>For me the most interesting thing about Sims2 is: (1) reaching long-term stuff like life wishes or challenges and (2) getting medieval or asiatic surroundings perfectly right. So good non-barbie skins are great for the same reason that a medieval looking car is great: A body without nipples is just as jarring as a porsche parking beside a castle.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that there is a tension in the moment when a Sim is trying to get romantic (wether it&#8217;s the first kiss or making out) but for me the tension is the same when I play a chance card that could get my Sim promoted or laid off his job. </p>
<p>But the main reason that I have difficulties believing that anyone would get mildly sexually aroused from this game: No matter what sort of weird, beautiful, scary or obscene custom content someone comes up with; play it ten times round and it get&#8217;s boring. </p>
<p>I think the longest-living kick about Sims is finding new stuff (objects, clothing, skins, dildos&#8230;) and maybe at last creating it yourself. Which is why expansion packs turn up regularly and why there are so many download sites.</p>
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		<title>By: blonde_kitten</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/08/23/erotisim-sex-and-the-sims/comment-page-1/#comment-72403</link>
		<dc:creator>blonde_kitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 17 years old, I believe that sex is a huge part of life and should therefore be a part of the Sims. Obviously I think there are limits to this, but I believe they should perhaps preserve their original idea of the Sims and then also possibly create expansions to this. I.e. the Sims 3 with its usual innocence perhaps more sexual undertones and have available expansion packs (not highly perverse as can be found on the net) that allow a slightly more rounded experience – and just put an 18 certificate on it, problem solved and then parents aren’t worried about their children being exposed and the adults are pleased with the new possibilities and freedoms. 

Generally the people who play the Sims, use it to experiment with things that they wouldn’t in their own lives, the reason there is so much perversity linked with the Sims is because a lot of the people that play on it are middle-aged sexually deprived males using it to live out their fantasies. Personally, I would be very interested in an allowance for teenage/adult relationships as in England sexual consent is 16, and I am in a relationship with an adult, as most girls are at my age. I think essentially the Sims is an adult game, and in that I think there should be allowances for sexual material. The majority of teenage boys aged 13 and above watch or have watched porn, depending on if they have access to it and so increased sexual material within the Sims will make no difference to their already existing sexual awareness. Children under 13 should not be playing on it anyway and it is up to the parents whether they wish to allow their children access to such material. The world is changing, people are much more open to sex and the majority of children have witnessed some form of sex by the time they are 13 whether it be in a film or even pornography. I think as time goes on the Sims may develop a somewhat pornographic nature anyway as films with full frontal nudity which were once 18s are now 15s. 12s are now 12as. I can not speak for America, but in England a game which had pornographic images would not shock. I think it is nice for the game to keep some of its initial innocence but I think it is foolish to expect the sexual undertones to stay as such. Pornography is not the source of corruption, people want and produce pornography, and there would be no market for it if it was not wanted. I think it is stupid that things such as murder and violence can exist in 12A films and that you cannot see sex, something perfectly natural and intimate, until you are 18. There is nothing wrong with sex? 

Why can&#039;t Sims be naked? Children see and learn about the human form by age 9! Everyone knows what it looks like and I’m sure religious people would not buy the Sims anyway due to its content. People who are offended by levels of sexual content should not buy the game? Simple. It is like buying a porn film and then complaining about the content, there is no sense in it. People who are offended by nude Sims need to see a psychologist; it is not the 1800s!

I feel that as much as we might stress that sex is not that important in life, I think it is naïve to think this. Sex is the source of creation; sex is the instinct to survive. You cannot deter instinct and you cannot deny its existence. A life simulation game needs sex in it to be lifelike? I do not understand the innocent term &#039;woohoo&#039;?? Children learn the word sex at age 7! We like to think children are innocent and unknowing but they aren’t. When I was 13/14 me and my friends played on the Sims and we all thought it was irritating the way sex was down toned so much in the game! And why are you only able to have sex in a bed? Why only when you&#039;re in love? And why only with people of the same age? Most teenage girls have older boyfriends. I disagree with the idea of Sims being able to have sex when 14, however I think at 16 a Sim should be able to have sex? That’s what teenage life is about, sexual development! Puberty, hormones hence the phrase; horny teenager. Masturbation should be possible etc... etc... I don’t think you necessarily have to see it i.e. like you would in pornography but this option should exist in the game even if it is hidden as sex currently is (beneath bed covers). I just think it is silly to keep the game so innocent because teenagers essentially are perverts! As much as people might believe in innocence and naivety, people do want filth, and although there are limits to this, you cannot deny the importance of sex in life, both adulthood and especially in the teen years where the sex drive is developing. The problem with a life simulation game is that it can never properly simulate life as to do so it would become extremely inappropriate as although we might not want to think so, things that happen in life aren’t necessarily appropriate. People get murdered, raped, kidnapped, and tortured. 

I think that as the Sims develops it may become inappropriate for children as the majority of people are perverse and these are mainly the ones who purchase it! A lot of my friends (teenagers) think there should be more sex in the game, and a lot of teenage boys (as they would) think so also. EA games must have been aware that in developing a life simulation game, there would be a huge emphasis on sex, because in real life there are no blurry patches and people are not naive and essentially, in life there is a huge emphasis on sex!

Maybe they should develop the game properly and yes, put sex in it, and put an 18 certificate on it, or they shouldn’t call it a life simulation game. As a teenage girl and speaking for my fellow teenage friends our lives our practically run by sex or the need for sex and I&#039;m sure most teenage boys would agree to this also. We do watch porn, we are not innocent we have sex. Adult men are attracted to teenage girls and vice versa, teenage boys have affairs with older women, married men run off with 16 year old girls. We cannot pretend these things do not happen but you can show some of the negative consequences such as families breaking apart, getting pregnant, abortions, and unhappy marriages. These things are taught to us anyway and having them exist in a game would make no difference to our already existing knowledge, infact it could be quite beneficial to those people who don’t see consequences.

So in my opinion; they should either: create Sims 4 with certificate 15 or 18, actual proper relationships sexual or otherwise, add some realism to the game? Or: keep the original innocence and have expansion packs available of 18 certificate or 15 etc... which allow for sexual content. 

 And btw I&#039;m not a sex-obsessive, I am a normal teenage girl, curious, sexually developed AND a virgin. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 17 years old, I believe that sex is a huge part of life and should therefore be a part of the Sims. Obviously I think there are limits to this, but I believe they should perhaps preserve their original idea of the Sims and then also possibly create expansions to this. I.e. the Sims 3 with its usual innocence perhaps more sexual undertones and have available expansion packs (not highly perverse as can be found on the net) that allow a slightly more rounded experience – and just put an 18 certificate on it, problem solved and then parents aren’t worried about their children being exposed and the adults are pleased with the new possibilities and freedoms. </p>
<p>Generally the people who play the Sims, use it to experiment with things that they wouldn’t in their own lives, the reason there is so much perversity linked with the Sims is because a lot of the people that play on it are middle-aged sexually deprived males using it to live out their fantasies. Personally, I would be very interested in an allowance for teenage/adult relationships as in England sexual consent is 16, and I am in a relationship with an adult, as most girls are at my age. I think essentially the Sims is an adult game, and in that I think there should be allowances for sexual material. The majority of teenage boys aged 13 and above watch or have watched porn, depending on if they have access to it and so increased sexual material within the Sims will make no difference to their already existing sexual awareness. Children under 13 should not be playing on it anyway and it is up to the parents whether they wish to allow their children access to such material. The world is changing, people are much more open to sex and the majority of children have witnessed some form of sex by the time they are 13 whether it be in a film or even pornography. I think as time goes on the Sims may develop a somewhat pornographic nature anyway as films with full frontal nudity which were once 18s are now 15s. 12s are now 12as. I can not speak for America, but in England a game which had pornographic images would not shock. I think it is nice for the game to keep some of its initial innocence but I think it is foolish to expect the sexual undertones to stay as such. Pornography is not the source of corruption, people want and produce pornography, and there would be no market for it if it was not wanted. I think it is stupid that things such as murder and violence can exist in 12A films and that you cannot see sex, something perfectly natural and intimate, until you are 18. There is nothing wrong with sex? </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t Sims be naked? Children see and learn about the human form by age 9! Everyone knows what it looks like and I’m sure religious people would not buy the Sims anyway due to its content. People who are offended by levels of sexual content should not buy the game? Simple. It is like buying a porn film and then complaining about the content, there is no sense in it. People who are offended by nude Sims need to see a psychologist; it is not the 1800s!</p>
<p>I feel that as much as we might stress that sex is not that important in life, I think it is naïve to think this. Sex is the source of creation; sex is the instinct to survive. You cannot deter instinct and you cannot deny its existence. A life simulation game needs sex in it to be lifelike? I do not understand the innocent term &#8216;woohoo&#8217;?? Children learn the word sex at age 7! We like to think children are innocent and unknowing but they aren’t. When I was 13/14 me and my friends played on the Sims and we all thought it was irritating the way sex was down toned so much in the game! And why are you only able to have sex in a bed? Why only when you&#8217;re in love? And why only with people of the same age? Most teenage girls have older boyfriends. I disagree with the idea of Sims being able to have sex when 14, however I think at 16 a Sim should be able to have sex? That’s what teenage life is about, sexual development! Puberty, hormones hence the phrase; horny teenager. Masturbation should be possible etc&#8230; etc&#8230; I don’t think you necessarily have to see it i.e. like you would in pornography but this option should exist in the game even if it is hidden as sex currently is (beneath bed covers). I just think it is silly to keep the game so innocent because teenagers essentially are perverts! As much as people might believe in innocence and naivety, people do want filth, and although there are limits to this, you cannot deny the importance of sex in life, both adulthood and especially in the teen years where the sex drive is developing. The problem with a life simulation game is that it can never properly simulate life as to do so it would become extremely inappropriate as although we might not want to think so, things that happen in life aren’t necessarily appropriate. People get murdered, raped, kidnapped, and tortured. </p>
<p>I think that as the Sims develops it may become inappropriate for children as the majority of people are perverse and these are mainly the ones who purchase it! A lot of my friends (teenagers) think there should be more sex in the game, and a lot of teenage boys (as they would) think so also. EA games must have been aware that in developing a life simulation game, there would be a huge emphasis on sex, because in real life there are no blurry patches and people are not naive and essentially, in life there is a huge emphasis on sex!</p>
<p>Maybe they should develop the game properly and yes, put sex in it, and put an 18 certificate on it, or they shouldn’t call it a life simulation game. As a teenage girl and speaking for my fellow teenage friends our lives our practically run by sex or the need for sex and I&#8217;m sure most teenage boys would agree to this also. We do watch porn, we are not innocent we have sex. Adult men are attracted to teenage girls and vice versa, teenage boys have affairs with older women, married men run off with 16 year old girls. We cannot pretend these things do not happen but you can show some of the negative consequences such as families breaking apart, getting pregnant, abortions, and unhappy marriages. These things are taught to us anyway and having them exist in a game would make no difference to our already existing knowledge, infact it could be quite beneficial to those people who don’t see consequences.</p>
<p>So in my opinion; they should either: create Sims 4 with certificate 15 or 18, actual proper relationships sexual or otherwise, add some realism to the game? Or: keep the original innocence and have expansion packs available of 18 certificate or 15 etc&#8230; which allow for sexual content. </p>
<p> And btw I&#8217;m not a sex-obsessive, I am a normal teenage girl, curious, sexually developed AND a virgin. :)</p>
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		<title>By: hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love having sex so whose with me couse i saw those pictures so who wants to have sex with me</description>
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		<title>By: kine</title>
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		<dc:creator>kine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hei elsker gutta de er så kul&lt;3&lt;3&lt;3</description>
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		<title>By: Junior Master</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junior Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you are my overly verbose hero Kieron!

I found the part about extending our consciousness into things a fascinating and thought provoking idea, I makes me wonder exactly where I end and where I begin.</description>
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<p>I found the part about extending our consciousness into things a fascinating and thought provoking idea, I makes me wonder exactly where I end and where I begin.</p>
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