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		<title>By: Girls Just Want To Have Dungeon Runs &#124; It burns when I PVP! &#124; MMORPGs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Girls Just Want To Have Dungeon Runs &#124; It burns when I PVP! &#124; MMORPGs</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Y3k-Bug</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/09/06/better-accelerate-than-never/#comment-122021</link>
		<dc:creator>Y3k-Bug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what its worth, NextGen (or more formally, Next Generation magazine) was an excellent read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what its worth, NextGen (or more formally, Next Generation magazine) was an excellent read.
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		<title>By: Dorian Cornelius Jasper</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/09/06/better-accelerate-than-never/#comment-75706</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorian Cornelius Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your old article made me sad.  I usually don&#039;t comment on old articles, but...

I clicked the last link in the article, and then immediately thought:  &quot;Wait.  I &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; that issue.  I used to &lt;i&gt;read&lt;/i&gt; this magazine.&quot;  And then became sad when I realized I couldn&#039;t find it.

Thus, your old article made me sad.  About a girlie rag.  I would have tried to be wittier here, or at least meaner, but I&#039;m still sad.  You meanies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your old article made me sad.  I usually don&#8217;t comment on old articles, but&#8230;</p>
<p>I clicked the last link in the article, and then immediately thought:  &#8220;Wait.  I <i>have</i> that issue.  I used to <i>read</i> this magazine.&#8221;  And then became sad when I realized I couldn&#8217;t find it.</p>
<p>Thus, your old article made me sad.  About a girlie rag.  I would have tried to be wittier here, or at least meaner, but I&#8217;m still sad.  You meanies.
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		<title>By: Gap Gen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/09/06/better-accelerate-than-never/#comment-48244</link>
		<dc:creator>Gap Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit late, but did Kropotkin write &#039;Conquest of Bread&#039; or &#039;Conquest of Beard&#039;? Because either works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit late, but did Kropotkin write &#8216;Conquest of Bread&#8217; or &#8216;Conquest of Beard&#8217;? Because either works.
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this really were about PCXLs &quot;use of sex&quot; and covering those really important &quot;sex-related issues&quot; (which has already been done by non-&quot;lad&quot; mags like CGM anyway) where are the half-naked hot guys? Where are the Frag Dudes? The photos of snug banana hammocks with Space Invaders printed in strategic places? Oh - wait, there aren&#039;t any. Because it&#039;s about selling magazines by using pictures of hot chicks. To straight...&quot;lads&quot;. Be honest.

David St. Hubbins: They said the album cover is a bit sexist.
Nigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What&#039;s wrong with being sexy?
David St. Hubbins: Sexist, Nigel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this really were about PCXLs &#8220;use of sex&#8221; and covering those really important &#8220;sex-related issues&#8221; (which has already been done by non-&#8221;lad&#8221; mags like CGM anyway) where are the half-naked hot guys? Where are the Frag Dudes? The photos of snug banana hammocks with Space Invaders printed in strategic places? Oh &#8211; wait, there aren&#8217;t any. Because it&#8217;s about selling magazines by using pictures of hot chicks. To straight&#8230;&#8221;lads&#8221;. Be honest.</p>
<p>David St. Hubbins: They said the album cover is a bit sexist.<br />
Nigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What&#8217;s wrong with being sexy?<br />
David St. Hubbins: Sexist, Nigel.
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		<title>By: Reason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.  I read your lead again and realized that you were sort of trying on this argument for size, Kieron, so please don&#039;t take what I&#039;ve said as a real stab.

I guess I just see the &quot;unabashed pandering but then getting kind of defensive about it&quot; behavior as part of a larger pattern in which the lowest common denominator sinks not because of human nature (ie What People Actually Want) and more because certain key people have a low opinion of their audience... as if to say, &quot;Here, you Neanderthals like tits don&#039;t you?  Here&#039;s some on the cover.  Don&#039;t act like you don&#039;t want it.&quot;

The tricky thing is that they can always throw a charge of elitism back in the face of anyone who raises an eyebrow.  When really, if I&#039;m the media and I give people nothing but lowbrow / crap and tell them that &lt;i&gt;crap is all they want&lt;/i&gt;, that&#039;s the ultimate form of judgmental elitism.  It&#039;s all tangled up in a hateful sort of justification logic.  Society can do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  I read your lead again and realized that you were sort of trying on this argument for size, Kieron, so please don&#8217;t take what I&#8217;ve said as a real stab.</p>
<p>I guess I just see the &#8220;unabashed pandering but then getting kind of defensive about it&#8221; behavior as part of a larger pattern in which the lowest common denominator sinks not because of human nature (ie What People Actually Want) and more because certain key people have a low opinion of their audience&#8230; as if to say, &#8220;Here, you Neanderthals like tits don&#8217;t you?  Here&#8217;s some on the cover.  Don&#8217;t act like you don&#8217;t want it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The tricky thing is that they can always throw a charge of elitism back in the face of anyone who raises an eyebrow.  When really, if I&#8217;m the media and I give people nothing but lowbrow / crap and tell them that <i>crap is all they want</i>, that&#8217;s the ultimate form of judgmental elitism.  It&#8217;s all tangled up in a hateful sort of justification logic.  Society can do better.
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		<title>By: Reason</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;gamers are puritanical&quot; angle is just apologism in the guise of counter-elitism.  I don&#039;t buy it.

I just look at stuff like the Frag Dolls and fail to see how it&#039;s having a net positive impact on game culture.  Yes, they&#039;re not wearing bikinis and being paraded around like pieces of meat, but if you look past the marketing message (and make no mistake, they are a marketing instrument for Ubi) they are still very much on display for the benefit of guy gamers.  Anyone who tells you they&#039;re building bridges is trying to sell you copies of Splinter Cell in a frustratingly disingenuous way.

I&#039;m all for an eyes-wide-open look at all the sex-related issues in games and game culture, but there&#039;s way too much fratboy defensiveness surrounding crap like this.  You like ogling girls, that&#039;s fine, so do most of us - but don&#039;t act like some envelope is being pushed.  Growing up means actually being honest about your appetites.

from the comments on this over at GameSetWatch:

&quot;Finally, someone is reaching 16-year-old boy gamers. They have no media outlets to call their own and are sadly neglected in their favorite format, print.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;gamers are puritanical&#8221; angle is just apologism in the guise of counter-elitism.  I don&#8217;t buy it.</p>
<p>I just look at stuff like the Frag Dolls and fail to see how it&#8217;s having a net positive impact on game culture.  Yes, they&#8217;re not wearing bikinis and being paraded around like pieces of meat, but if you look past the marketing message (and make no mistake, they are a marketing instrument for Ubi) they are still very much on display for the benefit of guy gamers.  Anyone who tells you they&#8217;re building bridges is trying to sell you copies of Splinter Cell in a frustratingly disingenuous way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for an eyes-wide-open look at all the sex-related issues in games and game culture, but there&#8217;s way too much fratboy defensiveness surrounding crap like this.  You like ogling girls, that&#8217;s fine, so do most of us &#8211; but don&#8217;t act like some envelope is being pushed.  Growing up means actually being honest about your appetites.</p>
<p>from the comments on this over at GameSetWatch:</p>
<p>&#8220;Finally, someone is reaching 16-year-old boy gamers. They have no media outlets to call their own and are sadly neglected in their favorite format, print.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Alan Au</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why oh why couldn&#039;t they have resurrected Computer Games Magazine instead?</description>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick response, in passing...

Andrew Farell: I always recall a speech I saw James Brown do Re: Loaded, where he noted that - despite what it became - when he was in charge, only 50% of the covers were actually women. So, yeah, I go along with the early-Loaded=Culturally interesting magazine hypothesis.

KG</description>
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<p>Andrew Farell: I always recall a speech I saw James Brown do Re: Loaded, where he noted that &#8211; despite what it became &#8211; when he was in charge, only 50% of the covers were actually women. So, yeah, I go along with the early-Loaded=Culturally interesting magazine hypothesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Mayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Mayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting idea, but I have the same questions now that I had back then:  
Who is the audience for this?  

Are articles about sex and video games better than articles about sex &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; video games?

I also remember thinking that the lad-rag boys have lots of magazines to choose from, and the gamers have lots of magazines to choose from. If you want a little of both why not buy two magazines?

From the looks of that cover none of these questions have been answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting idea, but I have the same questions now that I had back then:<br />
Who is the audience for this?  </p>
<p>Are articles about sex and video games better than articles about sex <i>or</i> video games?</p>
<p>I also remember thinking that the lad-rag boys have lots of magazines to choose from, and the gamers have lots of magazines to choose from. If you want a little of both why not buy two magazines?</p>
<p>From the looks of that cover none of these questions have been answered.
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		<title>By: Andrew Farrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are you on the &quot;Loaded was actually great back when it had features like &#039;Today, we attempted to organise a piss-up in a brewery&#039;&quot; theory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are you on the &#8220;Loaded was actually great back when it had features like &#8216;Today, we attempted to organise a piss-up in a brewery&#8217;&#8221; theory?
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		<title>By: NightShade</title>
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		<description>Wikipedia:
&quot;Every night, the staffs of PC Gamer and PCXL would challenge each other to massive team on team Rainbow Six battles. The PCXL staff rarely won a single match.&quot;

Considering how poorly the PCG guys were whenever I played or saw them playing someone (not any of you guys I believe, but if it was then no offence ;)) then they must be really bad gamers.</description>
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&#8220;Every night, the staffs of PC Gamer and PCXL would challenge each other to massive team on team Rainbow Six battles. The PCXL staff rarely won a single match.&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering how poorly the PCG guys were whenever I played or saw them playing someone (not any of you guys I believe, but if it was then no offence ;)) then they must be really bad gamers.
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