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Sort of what halo was to online console shooters [the only one previously being outrigger on the dreamcast].

Something nice and simple to bring people back into online shooters.

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It’s only recently that games have started to be ‘team’ orientated in the sense that the class of player you choose is retarded in some way.

QWCTF was same unit vs same unit and no one ever claimed it wasn’t a team game.

It’s like people want to pass the time gently instead of learning a skill set to compete [I call this the Ninja Gaiden theory].
Or they’d rather use the game as an advanced msn for some conversation.

Guys like us… old guys; We just want to win.

I hated Wolf:ET, I hated BF, I hate ET:QW and I hated the mother of them all TRIBES.

Give me AQ2 and Urban Terror.

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I was in EarthQuakers for years as a Sniper.
Us and The Spice Girls beat everything clear across Europe [only Valashera or VvV gave us any gyp].

Why in the world would you play a pyro even back then??

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Also, I’m not sure I buy the argument that a spy is just as effective at sowing confusion. As a pyro you can set a whole group on fire nearly instantly. Getting a series of backstabs isn’t equivalent, and requires more skill imho (I’m a terrible spy, half my backstab attempts seem to miss.) You also have to be behind them first, whereas with a pyro you can jump out from round a corner.

As for the sentry issue, call in a demoman. Surely it’s team fortress for a reason?

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I was in a clan called The Smiley Guys, later I made my own named the Red Army, and I was in the Pyro guild.

I played on Mplayer, less-so on QW, so you may not have seen me. Also, my in-game name was Asmodeus, which wasn’t exactly original, heh.

As someone who has played a Pyro in every iteration of the series, I thought I’d chime in on the is-the-pyro-weak-or-not query.

I’m going to say yes. It’s not a bad class, it just (and this is something that they said they were doing their damndest to avoid in making the game) has absolutely no benefit, in any situation, over another class.

Think about it, where is a pyro better than ? Holding a tunnel/corridor? Try a Heavy, or a Sniper, or a Neer, etc etc. Sowing confusion? Have you EVER seen a Spy get in amongst 8 people? Easily four backstabs. As a pyro I’m lucky if I can kill a single person, and the Spy can sap anything mechanical.

The problems with the pyro also stem from it being falsely called an ‘offensive’ based class. It isn’t. If it is, it’s the only offensive class in the game that cannot destroy a turret. I don’t think I’ve been any other class and been so completely blocked by a sentry.

I think the best change they could make to the pyro would be to take the shotgun away, and give him Molotov Cocktails. They’d work (in terms of arc) like a Demo grenade, only they’d explode on contact and do the whole burn-em alive thing. You could even make it so enemies that had been Molotov’d took extra damage from the ‘thrower.

I love the Pyro in TF2, and it’s my most played class, but I’ve never been in a situation as another class where I said “Man, I wish I was a pyro…”

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Seeing as we’re worshiping at the shrine of TF2 again, thought I’d share this. I nearly laughed until I bled internally: Saving Private Ryan meets TF2.

Heh, nicely done that. Cheers for the link.

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I just had a look at my stats – it turns out I’ve never had a medic uber me when I was a heavy. Something to try tonight, then…

(I feel a weight of responsibility on my shoulders when I go heavy. They’re so visible and noisy that teams seem to see them as the backbone of any assault, and fall in behind them. I always feel a bit self-concious at this, and mess up terribly. Then I go medic, because a bit harder to make a fool of yourself as one of them.)

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