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	<title>Comments on: RPS Advent Game-o-Calendar: December 21st</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-2/#comment-15103</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is extreme viewpoints and the way in which such views are expressed.  To say the game is faultless is foolish and equally to claim the game has no redeeming qualities is also foolish.  

Irrational argument is going to obscure any point you do have to make by antagonising other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is extreme viewpoints and the way in which such views are expressed.  To say the game is faultless is foolish and equally to claim the game has no redeeming qualities is also foolish.  </p>
<p>Irrational argument is going to obscure any point you do have to make by antagonising other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dracko</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-2/#comment-15097</link>
		<dc:creator>Dracko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only trashing when everyone disagrees, it seems.

God forbid he have a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only trashing when everyone disagrees, it seems.</p>
<p>God forbid he have a point.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pope</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-2/#comment-15090</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the whole drama with meat circus trashing the game.

By the way, I agree with you on the vehicle thing. They always end up feeling like clunky, hard to control humans with a million hit points rather than a tank/plane/helicopter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the whole drama with meat circus trashing the game.</p>
<p>By the way, I agree with you on the vehicle thing. They always end up feeling like clunky, hard to control humans with a million hit points rather than a tank/plane/helicopter.</p>
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		<title>By: Flint</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-2/#comment-15088</link>
		<dc:creator>Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well when I say overlook, I don&#039;t mean the sales (I&#039;m sure it&#039;s sold well considering they&#039;ve already announced the sequels) but more about that I haven&#039;t really seen people speaking about it anywhere and whenever they do, it&#039;s all about the technology and issues regarding it instead of the game itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well when I say overlook, I don&#8217;t mean the sales (I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s sold well considering they&#8217;ve already announced the sequels) but more about that I haven&#8217;t really seen people speaking about it anywhere and whenever they do, it&#8217;s all about the technology and issues regarding it instead of the game itself.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pope</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-2/#comment-15087</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it funny that anyone can think the market has spoken against the game which put Nvidia in forbes company of the year spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it funny that anyone can think the market has spoken against the game which put Nvidia in forbes company of the year spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Flint</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-1/#comment-14928</link>
		<dc:creator>Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought it after Chrimbo with the money I got, finished this morning, absolutely amazing. It&#039;s really sad how many overlook this game.

Shame it&#039;s not completely spotless, my hatred for vehicles in FPS games was increased even more by the tank and aeroplane sections. At least in the tank mission you could abandon the damn thing easily about halfway through, but no chance of hopping out of the plane I guess...

I really wish this vehicle fad would die soon, I can&#039;t think of a more annoying way to interrupt a perfectly good FPS than to force you to control a large moving bullseye with a clumsy manouverability.

But still. Amazing game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought it after Chrimbo with the money I got, finished this morning, absolutely amazing. It&#8217;s really sad how many overlook this game.</p>
<p>Shame it&#8217;s not completely spotless, my hatred for vehicles in FPS games was increased even more by the tank and aeroplane sections. At least in the tank mission you could abandon the damn thing easily about halfway through, but no chance of hopping out of the plane I guess&#8230;</p>
<p>I really wish this vehicle fad would die soon, I can&#8217;t think of a more annoying way to interrupt a perfectly good FPS than to force you to control a large moving bullseye with a clumsy manouverability.</p>
<p>But still. Amazing game.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-1/#comment-14661</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Chis, well said.

Crysis is in my top 5 for the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Chis, well said.</p>
<p>Crysis is in my top 5 for the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Chis</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-1/#comment-14541</link>
		<dc:creator>Chis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the game, loved the boss battle, loved everything about the game (although the zero-G bit was &lt;i&gt;iffy&lt;/i&gt;.  Oops, everyone&#039;s talking about Portal and don&#039;t give a shit.  Well, sod you all then.  I&#039;m still having fun with Crysis, and can only expect more of it once Crytek release the SDK...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the game, loved the boss battle, loved everything about the game (although the zero-G bit was <i>iffy</i>.  Oops, everyone&#8217;s talking about Portal and don&#8217;t give a shit.  Well, sod you all then.  I&#8217;m still having fun with Crysis, and can only expect more of it once Crytek release the SDK&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dhex</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-1/#comment-14327</link>
		<dc:creator>dhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>matt: you misunderstand. i don&#039;t mean value as in &quot;good&quot; or &quot;bad&quot; so much as &quot;this is worth 49.99 USD&quot; (i.e. three canadian pennies) to me.&quot; price is a way of transmitting information about how much people value a particular product - in a year or so plenty of people who initially balked might pick up crysis for 20 USD.

now, i think another way to consider this whole thing is to imagine this very unscientific example:

there&#039;s a line that divides two groups of people - one called &quot;piracy&quot; and one called &quot;sales&quot; - i.e. the total number of people who are going to play crysis. what determines where someone who is going to play crysis - regardless of preferred method - is going to land is a combination of many factors. but what we can say concretely is that people who are willing to buy a title value crysis more than those who download it; following that, downloaders value it more than those who choose not to play it entirely. so at the very least sales data tells us just how many of the front-lines folk value the product enough to pay for it outright.

that has nothing to do with merit or taste, of course. most of my heroes don&#039;t appear on no stamps, etc etc and so forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>matt: you misunderstand. i don&#8217;t mean value as in &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;bad&#8221; so much as &#8220;this is worth 49.99 USD&#8221; (i.e. three canadian pennies) to me.&#8221; price is a way of transmitting information about how much people value a particular product &#8211; in a year or so plenty of people who initially balked might pick up crysis for 20 USD.</p>
<p>now, i think another way to consider this whole thing is to imagine this very unscientific example:</p>
<p>there&#8217;s a line that divides two groups of people &#8211; one called &#8220;piracy&#8221; and one called &#8220;sales&#8221; &#8211; i.e. the total number of people who are going to play crysis. what determines where someone who is going to play crysis &#8211; regardless of preferred method &#8211; is going to land is a combination of many factors. but what we can say concretely is that people who are willing to buy a title value crysis more than those who download it; following that, downloaders value it more than those who choose not to play it entirely. so at the very least sales data tells us just how many of the front-lines folk value the product enough to pay for it outright.</p>
<p>that has nothing to do with merit or taste, of course. most of my heroes don&#8217;t appear on no stamps, etc etc and so forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-1/#comment-14319</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with that model is people buy based on various things that are not directly related to the game.  To critically judge something cannot be done based on sales.  Lots of good games, great movies, books and so on are not successful financially.  And then you have all the other factors, fears regarding hardware and performance in this case.  

The only way to actually judge the game and assess its quality is to play it and then decide, not to decide based on sales figures or how well it is marketed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with that model is people buy based on various things that are not directly related to the game.  To critically judge something cannot be done based on sales.  Lots of good games, great movies, books and so on are not successful financially.  And then you have all the other factors, fears regarding hardware and performance in this case.  </p>
<p>The only way to actually judge the game and assess its quality is to play it and then decide, not to decide based on sales figures or how well it is marketed.</p>
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		<title>By: dhex</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-1/#comment-14318</link>
		<dc:creator>dhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, but it is a reasonable criteria for how much people value something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, but it is a reasonable criteria for how much people value something.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2007/12/21/rps-advent-game-o-calendar-december-21st/comment-page-1/#comment-14317</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If how much money something makes is an indicator of quality then we are all in trouble.  The criteria for judging something should not be based on sales figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If how much money something makes is an indicator of quality then we are all in trouble.  The criteria for judging something should not be based on sales figures.</p>
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