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		<title>By: Crispy</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/02/28/hey-go-work-for-introversion/#comment-28056</link>
		<dc:creator>Crispy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pity everyone here is so money-obsessed. I&#039;d definitely rather be working for someone I have the utmost respect for than earning the same amount or more working on blockbuster titles with no real credibility.

Different strokes for different folks. I&#039;m sure Introversion will find the right person for the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity everyone here is so money-obsessed. I&#8217;d definitely rather be working for someone I have the utmost respect for than earning the same amount or more working on blockbuster titles with no real credibility.</p>
<p>Different strokes for different folks. I&#8217;m sure Introversion will find the right person for the job.
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		<title>By: apa-eu</title>
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		<dc:creator>apa-eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You brits should really switch to euros. I wondered about the pay until I read the comments and understood it was GBP :D

(also SI units would rock...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You brits should really switch to euros. I wondered about the pay until I read the comments and understood it was GBP :D</p>
<p>(also SI units would rock&#8230;)
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		<title>By: Malibu Stacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malibu Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been said already but to reiterate the point:
£20-30k in London is lower than entry level. I&#039;m a software developer in Glasgow &amp; our company consider £25K+ to be the entry level for graduates straight from University. Glasgow is significantly cheaper to live in than London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been said already but to reiterate the point:<br />
£20-30k in London is lower than entry level. I&#8217;m a software developer in Glasgow &amp; our company consider £25K+ to be the entry level for graduates straight from University. Glasgow is significantly cheaper to live in than London.
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		<title>By: Meat Circus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meat Circus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I&#039;m saying is, I&#039;m a developer and I&#039;m not getting a bum deal as far as I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I&#8217;m saying is, I&#8217;m a developer and I&#8217;m not getting a bum deal as far as I know.
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		<title>By: AbyssUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AbyssUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Okami - yes production is what I mean&#039;t no idea why I said design.. colour me stupid.

@Meat Circus - Yes, but I think security, networking and hardware guys get better deals normally. I think programmers get bum deals 9 times out of 10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Okami &#8211; yes production is what I mean&#8217;t no idea why I said design.. colour me stupid.</p>
<p>@Meat Circus &#8211; Yes, but I think security, networking and hardware guys get better deals normally. I think programmers get bum deals 9 times out of 10.
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		<title>By: Meat Circus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meat Circus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AbyssUK:

Being a developer pays well enough if you choose your industry correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AbyssUK:</p>
<p>Being a developer pays well enough if you choose your industry correctly.
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		<title>By: Okami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AbyssUK: &lt;i&gt;design is were the real money/power is&lt;/i&gt;

Uhmmmm.... No. Production is where the real money is. Want to earn lots of cash? Go work for a publisher! Designers don&#039;t earn that much, programmers are usually better paid than game or level designers..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AbyssUK: <i>design is were the real money/power is</i></p>
<p>Uhmmmm&#8230;. No. Production is where the real money is. Want to earn lots of cash? Go work for a publisher! Designers don&#8217;t earn that much, programmers are usually better paid than game or level designers..
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		<title>By: AbyssUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AbyssUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah you poor programmers... am a chemist and I now laugh at your 30K in London! Get a real degree...

I did work in the games industry as a tester (14k a year).. and can&#039;t belive how poorly the trained programmers were paid and the extra hours (unpaid!!) you guys are crazy. As with every business its the suits that get the money, don&#039;t become a programmer... design is were the real money/power is :)</description>
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<p>I did work in the games industry as a tester (14k a year).. and can&#8217;t belive how poorly the trained programmers were paid and the extra hours (unpaid!!) you guys are crazy. As with every business its the suits that get the money, don&#8217;t become a programmer&#8230; design is were the real money/power is :)
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		<title>By: MaW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More to the point, 20-30K is the range I&#039;m earning at the moment in Nottingham, and even if I got 30 it&#039;s not much to uproot and move to London on.

It&#039;s actually rather surprising that the &#039;last of the bedroom programmers&#039; has an office in the most expensive city in the country. It&#039;d be much more appropriate to find them in Nottingham or Birmingham or Manchester, surely.

Or in a hut in the Yorkshire Dales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More to the point, 20-30K is the range I&#8217;m earning at the moment in Nottingham, and even if I got 30 it&#8217;s not much to uproot and move to London on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually rather surprising that the &#8216;last of the bedroom programmers&#8217; has an office in the most expensive city in the country. It&#8217;d be much more appropriate to find them in Nottingham or Birmingham or Manchester, surely.</p>
<p>Or in a hut in the Yorkshire Dales.
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		<title>By: soylent green</title>
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		<dc:creator>soylent green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of salary is that? 20K in London will make you beg for food after work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of salary is that? 20K in London will make you beg for food after work&#8230;
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		<title>By: jph wacheski</title>
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		<dc:creator>jph wacheski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wonder if they need a scripter. I havent bothered much with c but all programing is the same really,. I wolud work for that much money,. 20k in london is 40k dollers here,. must be some doggy cheap flats arounds,. perhaps I will fire off a cv,. .  not sure about moving across the pond,. and Im no fan of monster cites,. perhaps not.., 

http://www.emix8.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107 
new test game, very rudimentary,. just learning ZGE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonder if they need a scripter. I havent bothered much with c but all programing is the same really,. I wolud work for that much money,. 20k in london is 40k dollers here,. must be some doggy cheap flats arounds,. perhaps I will fire off a cv,. .  not sure about moving across the pond,. and Im no fan of monster cites,. perhaps not.., </p>
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new test game, very rudimentary,. just learning ZGE.
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		<description>Seth: I could see a larger team looking for different languages (though, not many are used in commercial game dev outside of C++), but with only 8 / 9 people, it&#039;s best to keep it all under a common tongue. Of course, there&#039;d be nothing stopping you using something else for tool writing if that was what was assigned to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth: I could see a larger team looking for different languages (though, not many are used in commercial game dev outside of C++), but with only 8 / 9 people, it&#8217;s best to keep it all under a common tongue. Of course, there&#8217;d be nothing stopping you using something else for tool writing if that was what was assigned to you.
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