Comments on: War Dawns Anew

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By: Homunculus

Homunculus — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:32:39 +0000

This is an incredibly shoddy product. The big gotcha so far is that you can use Dark Eldar powers when being an observer in multiplayer games. But there’s all sorts of indications throughout the game that not enough care was brought to bear during its gestation, making it compare unfavourably to its predecessors.

A few additional choice nuggets gleaned from Relic’s forums:

* Tankbustas can now attack ground like artillery. The missiles reach the target area, go through the floor, dont explode and dont do any damage to units or buildings. Completely useless.

* Sisters of Battle Rhino build animation is borked. The ship drops it into the shop, then disappears suddenly instead of flying away (like when building every other vehicle).

* The old Hellhound targetting bug applies to the new inferno/melta “stream” weapons. You can be damaging one target but visibly aiming and shooting somewhere else altogether.

* Sisters of battle units have ai bugs where they sit around doing nothing when attacked.

* Some default movement stances are just plain wrong, the normal Sisters animation is that of running but move slowly and the Archon for the Dark Eldar moves as if he is in fast forward. There seem to be many small things all over the units that seem to do this, simple things such as the ripples of water when wading through water are not on many of the new units

Reeks of poor quality cash grab throughout, particularly considering superior amateur efforts. If this was Iron Lore’s and THQ’s Quality Assurance modus operandi,

Perhaps a robust support strategy will patch these concerns away, but it’s two big, big Optimus Prime thumbs down for now.

By: Nallen

Nallen — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:50:04 +0000

Have they updated the graphics yet? :) /shallow

By: SwiftRanger

SwiftRanger — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:55:08 +0000

Winter Assault had the best campaign of the whole lot, DC and Soulstorm are mostly skirmish-packs. It’s all about the new races, DE and SoB aren’t as cool as Necron or Tau but they’ll do fine imo.

By: Crispy

Crispy — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:11:35 +0000

The Complete Collection
- Dawn of War (original game)
- Winter Assault (expansion pack #1)
- Dark Crusade (expansion pack #2)
- Soulstorm (expansion pack #3)

…is on Play or Amazon UK for £29.99 with free delivery. On Steam no such collection currently exists, so you’d be adding the Platinum Edition and Soulstorm purchases together to give you $69.98 plus UK tax! :S

Dawn of War: Anthology (same as TCC minus Soulstorm) is £14.99 on Amazon UK, which is probably cheaper than Steam’s equivalent Platinum Edition ($29.95) once you factor in tax.

Purchasing Soulstorm separately from Play or Amazon UK would cost you a meagre £17.99 versus $40 tax on Steam.

So… what gives? Suddenly Steam doesn’t seem like the better option, especially if you have an unreliable connection, download limit or plain just like the touchy-feely sensation of a manual twixt your fingers or a new box in your shelf collection.

I’d hope any Relic or Valve sales rep reading this will see sense and get to work on a Super Platinum (Titanium?) edition otherwise they may just lose out to the online retailers on this.

By: matt

matt — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:46:45 +0000

Well, still no Genestealers and that would make me want to pass this one, unless it builds upon Dark Crusade‘s “campaign” mode, which i enjoyed.
Don’t know how this on will play, but i was hoping for a kind of the same campaign mode on a larger scale, planet-scale maybe ?
I so wished that Genestealers would be part of the next extension; if only to balance and counter the Necrons, who are far too powerful if you ask me..

By: sigma83

sigma83 — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:11:45 +0000

Then again, sisters of battle… I meant, c’mon.

By: Stromko

Stromko — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:41:46 +0000

This ‘expandalone’ business is frankly bullsh*t, and THQ has been pulling it for awhile. Nobody, nobody without the original is going to give a damn about the expansion, and if they liked it they’d buy the original version anyway.

It is first and foremost an excuse to add 10 – 20$ to the price tag.

I’m not picking this one up, DoW is old news. Anyway, I’ve picked up all the expansions before this, and once the novelty war off they really only made things worse. Installing an expansion forced me to get the latest patch, which always jacked the balance all to hell.

By time Winter Assault came around, the Orks were utterly unplayable, and they were my favorite race up until then. Their ‘ork’ resource, a number that went up the more units you had and would unlock more advanced units the higher it got, meant if you took too many losses you couldn’t replace them with high quality units. The orks were the only race with this disadvantage. Meanwhile, the Imperial Guard was just utterly unstoppable, pure meat engines that you just couldn’t be squelched.

I shouldn’t even have to get into specifics, THQ has such a habit of making the new sides kick ten kinds of ass while gimping the old sides, in order to make people buy the expansions. If that isn’t obvious to everyone here, I’d be surprised.

By: Saskwach

Saskwach — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:49:49 +0000

Frosty840: I’m with you but I think “Skulls for the skull throne!” was a gaffe, not a real change made by GW. No one would mess with “Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the throne of Khorne!” It’s too good.

By: cheeba

cheeba — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:40:46 +0000

“More meat for the table!” Crikey, that takes me back.

As for the game, I’m fairly sure it was (one of the few redeeming features of) Turok 2. One of the beasties growled it when you selected them in a deatchmatch game.

By: matte_k

matte_k — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:34:33 +0000

Which game was it that had a unit bark of “More meat for the table!”?

DoW has some cool unit barks, but some bloody annoying ones too. (I’m thinking in particular of the smug Eldar Bonesinger…)

By: Frosty840

Frosty840 — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:09:20 +0000

Didn’t it used to be “Skulls for the throne of Khorne”? Where’s this “skull throne” business come from?
“Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the throne of Khorne” is a proper war-cry, all blood-curdling and pants-filling.
“Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne” has a much more even cadence and is merely a chant, and a droning, silly one at that. I can imagine it being chanted by monks in cloisters, or as some kind of polite, formalised greeting and reply.
I don’t know who made the change, or why, but I don’t like it in the least.

Most dissatisfying, I must say.