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	<title>Comments on: The Revolution Will Not Be Civilized</title>
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		<title>By: pawseries</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/03/15/the-revolution-will-not-be-civilized/comment-page-1/#comment-116479</link>
		<dc:creator>pawseries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At all I do not know what to tell in this occasion. Probably, what all will be better than now? And as a whole very much even it is informative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At all I do not know what to tell in this occasion. Probably, what all will be better than now? And as a whole very much even it is informative!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/03/15/the-revolution-will-not-be-civilized/comment-page-1/#comment-31766</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eeh, I&#039;m just excited* about the idea of finally playing Civ at least in some form on my DS.

*scared</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eeh, I&#8217;m just excited* about the idea of finally playing Civ at least in some form on my DS.</p>
<p>*scared</p>
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		<title>By: yourmomsface</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/03/15/the-revolution-will-not-be-civilized/comment-page-1/#comment-31737</link>
		<dc:creator>yourmomsface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Civ Rev is a further evolution of some of the ideas explored in Civ 4, like a faster game pace and better multiplayer. This being Civ 4, though, on the PC, playing to big Civ fans, it was simply impossible to expand these ideas out all the way. The faster game modes felt too fast, too compressed, not balanced, and although Civ 4 was much better multi than any other game in the series, it was still an awkward fit. 

I am glad to see Firaxis expand on these elements as I feel they definitely have potential. Speaking for myself, I can not spend as many weekends going through an entire game as I used to, so a quick game mode I can sit down and get a full, hearty experience from will be much appreciated. I hope they pull this one off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civ Rev is a further evolution of some of the ideas explored in Civ 4, like a faster game pace and better multiplayer. This being Civ 4, though, on the PC, playing to big Civ fans, it was simply impossible to expand these ideas out all the way. The faster game modes felt too fast, too compressed, not balanced, and although Civ 4 was much better multi than any other game in the series, it was still an awkward fit. </p>
<p>I am glad to see Firaxis expand on these elements as I feel they definitely have potential. Speaking for myself, I can not spend as many weekends going through an entire game as I used to, so a quick game mode I can sit down and get a full, hearty experience from will be much appreciated. I hope they pull this one off!</p>
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		<title>By: malkav11</title>
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		<dc:creator>malkav11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really not especially worried about the change from several religions to one - Civ IV&#039;s religions might as well be all the same religion for all the distinctness they currently possess.

I also heard glimmerings of things like special unit abilities that make my heart go pitter-pat with anticipation.

I wouldn&#039;t necessarily want the whole franchise to go this direction, but as long as it remains a spinoff, I can comfortably anticipate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really not especially worried about the change from several religions to one &#8211; Civ IV&#8217;s religions might as well be all the same religion for all the distinctness they currently possess.</p>
<p>I also heard glimmerings of things like special unit abilities that make my heart go pitter-pat with anticipation.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily want the whole franchise to go this direction, but as long as it remains a spinoff, I can comfortably anticipate it.</p>
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		<title>By: RichPowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichPowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumbed down isn&#039;t an entirely dismissive term: in the case of Sim City Societies, it was pretty damn accurate description.

But CivRev is not what I would consider dumbed down. Hell, I&#039;ve been playing these games since CivII and still can&#039;t really master them. Accessibility enhancements, if you will, would be more than welcome in CivV, provided it still has the strategic depths I&#039;m used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumbed down isn&#8217;t an entirely dismissive term: in the case of Sim City Societies, it was pretty damn accurate description.</p>
<p>But CivRev is not what I would consider dumbed down. Hell, I&#8217;ve been playing these games since CivII and still can&#8217;t really master them. Accessibility enhancements, if you will, would be more than welcome in CivV, provided it still has the strategic depths I&#8217;m used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jae Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the opposite; I love EU (and I&#039;m having great fun with Crusader Kings), but Hearts of Iron sent me to sleep as soon as the fighting starts and I spent fifteen very confused minutes with Ricky before fleeing in panic.

As for being &quot;glacial&quot;, well, you have a point there, although I tend to find that the pace of the action varies wildly with the amount of initiative the player takes, and unless you&#039;re very comfortable with the game (read; have completed a full GC, or an equivalent number of decades in shorter games) it can be a struggle to find something to do.

Thankfully the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345079&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new expansion&lt;/a&gt; seems to be aiming towards alleviating this somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the opposite; I love EU (and I&#8217;m having great fun with Crusader Kings), but Hearts of Iron sent me to sleep as soon as the fighting starts and I spent fifteen very confused minutes with Ricky before fleeing in panic.</p>
<p>As for being &#8220;glacial&#8221;, well, you have a point there, although I tend to find that the pace of the action varies wildly with the amount of initiative the player takes, and unless you&#8217;re very comfortable with the game (read; have completed a full GC, or an equivalent number of decades in shorter games) it can be a struggle to find something to do.</p>
<p>Thankfully the <a href="http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345079" rel="nofollow">new expansion</a> seems to be aiming towards alleviating this somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: Janek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never got along with the EU series. It always seemed a bit glacial, and awfully dry.

Which is odd, as I really liked both Hearts of Iron and Victoria. I guess it&#039;s a combination of increased depth and a more focused period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never got along with the EU series. It always seemed a bit glacial, and awfully dry.</p>
<p>Which is odd, as I really liked both Hearts of Iron and Victoria. I guess it&#8217;s a combination of increased depth and a more focused period.</p>
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		<title>By: Winterborn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winterborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EU3 is great and Astargoth is doing quite a good Vince D Weller impersonation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EU3 is great and Astargoth is doing quite a good Vince D Weller impersonation.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go is clearly just a dumbed-down version of Chess.</description>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t played a Civ game that I can remember but I&#039;d like to give this a spin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t played a Civ game that I can remember but I&#8217;d like to give this a spin.</p>
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		<title>By: Astargoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astargoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;I’m very excited about Civ Rev, and that it has the balls to start over rather than worry about servicing existing expectations is the prime reason for that&quot;&gt;

It takes real balls these days to &quot;make games more accesible&quot; right? It&#039;s not like everybody is doing it right? It&#039;s not like there&#039;s a RPG game in the making where instead of choosing your answer you&#039;ll choose an icon, right? Finally it&#039;s not like Civilization is a shaining light in a very dark tunnel for every Turn based lover out there. I mean there&#039;s pleanty of TB games in the making right?

All sarcasm aside TBS lovers like myself are scared that good sales for CivRev. will mean that Civ 5 will have alot of features in common with it. While the devs words are reasurring, I have little doubt that if Revolutions sell 2x the Civ 4 numbers it will end mainstream western Turn Based gaming.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="I’m very excited about Civ Rev, and that it has the balls to start over rather than worry about servicing existing expectations is the prime reason for that">
<p>It takes real balls these days to &#8220;make games more accesible&#8221; right? It&#8217;s not like everybody is doing it right? It&#8217;s not like there&#8217;s a RPG game in the making where instead of choosing your answer you&#8217;ll choose an icon, right? Finally it&#8217;s not like Civilization is a shaining light in a very dark tunnel for every Turn based lover out there. I mean there&#8217;s pleanty of TB games in the making right?</p>
<p>All sarcasm aside TBS lovers like myself are scared that good sales for CivRev. will mean that Civ 5 will have alot of features in common with it. While the devs words are reasurring, I have little doubt that if Revolutions sell 2x the Civ 4 numbers it will end mainstream western Turn Based gaming.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Alec Meer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec Meer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, EU3 is great, though a harder sell to a wide audience. I urge anyone with a serious interest in strategy games to give it a go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, EU3 is great, though a harder sell to a wide audience. I urge anyone with a serious interest in strategy games to give it a go.</p>
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