Comments on: Rock, Paper, Warhammer

By: Stromko

Stromko — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:21:38 +0000

It might be good if it’s Tabula Rasa without the boring class system and uninspired items. I think TR was already too much of an RPG and not enough of an FPS (AutoAssault without cars, aim at target and hope the dice favor you), but if it must be an MMORPG I’d rather it at least have the palpable mechanics of a shooter.

Target ‘Nid, hit 1 to trigger Bolter ‘burst’ attack. No. We don’t need anymore WoW re-skins. A Tabula Rasa-style RPG with shooter control scheme will also be worthless and terrible, but not as much.

By: Jacques

Jacques — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:37:37 +0000

And here I was hoping for a decent Inquisitor style MMORPG or something similar.
I seriously hope there’s no race playable apart from Imperial Guard.

By: ErgonomicCat

ErgonomicCat — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:50:53 +0000

Bursar: You’re hired. Get to work *immediately*.

Oh man. Now I’m gleeful. Because that’s my uber game. All the PvE you want on your own worlds, full of quests, lore, history, loot, etc.

And then, when you’re ready, you hit the launcher, and BOOM! You’re playing Planetside as a Sister of Battle. Control of Frontline worlds would grant bonuses to the safe worlds – if you control a factory world, more items are available. If you control a research world, buffs on the safe world. Just like the bases in Planetside open different vehicles, activate techs, etc.

Man. I could die happy at that point. I mean, right now, I have two active MMO subs – WoW, and Planetside. Why the heck not combine them?

By: Bursar

Bursar — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:16:36 +0000

Can they not have their cake and eat it? Why does it need to be one or the other?

Couldn’t you have frontline worlds and ‘safe worlds.’ Safe worlds allow for all the WoW RPGness and then the frontline worlds could be persistent battlegrounds like Planetside. You tool up, grind, trade etc in the safer areas with the frontline worlds being akin to a PvP battleground (but much much much bigger and better). Imagine droppodding in or something? It should also remove the absurdity of having an ork grinding with a Space Marine….

By: malkav11

malkav11 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:51:19 +0000

Apparently I’m the only one who is absolutely thrilled that it’s *not* going to be a massively multiplayer FPS. I love 40K. I love the lore and the fiction and the art and all of that. It’s the best possible MMO setting. And the only way to spoil it would be to make it a heavily player-skilled PvP shooter that I’d never be able to play.

So I’m glad they dodged that bullet. (Though, I suppose they could still go that route and just not make it a shooter, which would be almost as bad.)

By: Zeno, Internetographer

Zeno, Internetographer — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:48:14 +0000

Even after the oh-so-controversial “updates” to Planetside, it was still my favorite MMO ever. 40K would be perfect for a PS-esque game, though I’m not surprised they’ve taken the lameass sellout route of making Yet Another Generic MMORPG.

The one thing that can save this game in my eyes is if they make it truly persistent. I want to feel like an actual WAR is going on in my WARhammer.

By: toby

toby — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:52:51 +0000

They could base it on the old Rogue trader role play rules from warhammer 40k. you’re in the universe, but not really part of the empire armies.

Who knows though…

By: Larington

Larington — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:21:45 +0000

Yeah, really wish they’d done something to discourage abuse of left-right strafing in it as well. Yeah, sure, that seems to be the standard for FPS games, but in PS it often didn’t work because of the idiots who’d run into the middle of your killzone and then decide to start adadading right across the aim of all the defending troops. Heh, grief should’ve been disabled in that situation, idiots.

By: RichPowers

RichPowers — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:13:37 +0000

PlanetSide was ruined when the dolts at SOE implemented Maelstroms and Flails and BFRs; these spammy weapons ruined otherwise exciting battles due to their ease-of-use and sheer power.

The lesson? Open warfare games should appeal to teamwork-oriented gamers who seek refuge from the spam weapons and insta-kills. People who enjoy those types of games already have enough outlets. PS devs ignored the team-based vehicles like the Sunderer and Galaxy while glorify the solo weapons, leading to “Soloside” and the mass exodus of skilled players.

By: Larington

Larington — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:18:28 +0000

At the moment, the only way I can see a new planetside happening is either Blizzard gets brave and does something really incredible with their starcraft franchise.

Or I eventually get into the games industry and make the bloody thing happen myself (It’ll be nothing like starcraft 2 though… ;-) )… Whichever comes first. Of course my real dread is that someone does get to it before me, botches it about as much as SOE did (Come on, Core combat 3 months after the games release and then BFRs? Did they want to kill the game?) meaning that it’ll become several times harder for me to use the “ok, so SOE didn’t quite pull it off, but a new game based on the idea will be awesome because it benefits from hindsight…”

I still play planetside, because nothing is able to capture the feel it does and yet at the same time there so many abused domininant strategies in that game (And players using hacks at the moment, scum) that I’ll sometimes log off in disgust.

In short, its dangerous to mention ‘Whatside? – Planetside’ anywhere near me because, well, I can’t keep my mouth shut when its name gets dropped.

By: richmcc

richmcc — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:06:43 +0000

New Planetside would be monumental. If ever a game needed a NEXT-GEN update…

By: Heliocentric

Heliocentric — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:00:06 +0000

As bad as it was(is?) planetside had potential in buckets, all out warfare, from being a grunt to performing bombing runs, favourite of all? get in a small stealthed squad on quadbikes and lay landmines and turrets.

That kind of open warfare games desperately needs love in the mmo space, instead it looks like we are going to get a wow in space game.

Are people so afraid of trying to step out of wow’s shadow?

Eh, i’ll hold out hope but it looks like i’ll need to turn to various mods to get my first person 40k warfare.

Did anyone ever play hidden:source? Imagine that in a 40k battlefield 2 esq game.

Leaping from rooftop to rooftop to rooftop followed by a swarm of tryanid backup, they follow you, because afterall, you are their hive synapse.

Or as a commisar/seargent with a small npc squad (i’m suggesting minions because otherwise how could a space marine be balanced) then ordering your heavy weapons team to mortor smoke to cover your advance.

But, now… space ruins, abandoned battlefields… great.