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		<title>By: Kanakotka</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46745</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanakotka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took a while of checking, but there&#039;s no such law in effect in Finland-land, poo bear. We have a 30 day return policy, but there must be a valid reason such as the game being broken.

And poo bear, the PS3 lineup is simply abysmal, the only good part of that console is the blu-ray drive, otherwise it&#039;s rather garbage, both in hard- and soft kind of ware. Where you would be checking up the lineup, most notable games are FPSes... now who in their right mind plays an FPS on a console with analog stick control? Compared to the mouse or wii controller, it&#039;s idiotically hard to aim properly, and thus an aggravating experience, so FPS on console is always the underwhelmer, while games like mass effect would do fine on a console, even they will lack depth due to PC&#039;s sheer superiority of control scheme.

Console games should be simple RPGs (such as early final fantasies, the ones after 6 are rather... garbageish), action RPGs, shmups, platformers and such. But putting FPS or RTS game on console is just as a smart idea as trying to surf on a calm lake, it just won&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took a while of checking, but there&#8217;s no such law in effect in Finland-land, poo bear. We have a 30 day return policy, but there must be a valid reason such as the game being broken.</p>
<p>And poo bear, the PS3 lineup is simply abysmal, the only good part of that console is the blu-ray drive, otherwise it&#8217;s rather garbage, both in hard- and soft kind of ware. Where you would be checking up the lineup, most notable games are FPSes&#8230; now who in their right mind plays an FPS on a console with analog stick control? Compared to the mouse or wii controller, it&#8217;s idiotically hard to aim properly, and thus an aggravating experience, so FPS on console is always the underwhelmer, while games like mass effect would do fine on a console, even they will lack depth due to PC&#8217;s sheer superiority of control scheme.</p>
<p>Console games should be simple RPGs (such as early final fantasies, the ones after 6 are rather&#8230; garbageish), action RPGs, shmups, platformers and such. But putting FPS or RTS game on console is just as a smart idea as trying to surf on a calm lake, it just won&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Kosi</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46616</link>
		<dc:creator>Kosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a major piece of rubbish! I call &quot;emperor&#039;s new clothes&quot;!
Can&#039;t believe people are being sucked in by the hype here. just a mediocre robotron with a mediocre (at best) soundtrack.

Yeah i wish could refund on steam too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a major piece of rubbish! I call &#8220;emperor&#8217;s new clothes&#8221;!<br />
Can&#8217;t believe people are being sucked in by the hype here. just a mediocre robotron with a mediocre (at best) soundtrack.</p>
<p>Yeah i wish could refund on steam too.</p>
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		<title>By: Gloinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gloinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it!  I hated Geometry Wars on the 360 and I still think it is a very badly designed game.  This game is awesome in that indie way I expect most people around here to know and love.  

I love buying great indie games and I hope more of this will happen on steam.  I just hope that my already bought Aquaria and Armageddon Empires can be activated there if they ever show up.  I also hope Weird Worlds shows up there as well.  Indie game makers should totally follow the example of Audiosurf, and I expect this game to sell by the truckloads as well.  Go Steam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it!  I hated Geometry Wars on the 360 and I still think it is a very badly designed game.  This game is awesome in that indie way I expect most people around here to know and love.  </p>
<p>I love buying great indie games and I hope more of this will happen on steam.  I just hope that my already bought Aquaria and Armageddon Empires can be activated there if they ever show up.  I also hope Weird Worlds shows up there as well.  Indie game makers should totally follow the example of Audiosurf, and I expect this game to sell by the truckloads as well.  Go Steam!</p>
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		<title>By: mezz</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46532</link>
		<dc:creator>mezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know what you&#039;re all complaining about, this game&#039;s awesome! Great variety between the levels, and the levels have lots of subtlty to them, I&#039;m still discovering tricks on the first level! The music really fits the levels too. I&#039;ve not played many games of this genre, so I can&#039;t say how good it is relative to the competition, but I&#039;m very happy with it so far.
As for the difficulty, I got stuck on the 4th level, but I was soon able to buy the unlock to allow me to skip straight to that level to learn its tricks, which is a great way round the problem of having to replay to get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re all complaining about, this game&#8217;s awesome! Great variety between the levels, and the levels have lots of subtlty to them, I&#8217;m still discovering tricks on the first level! The music really fits the levels too. I&#8217;ve not played many games of this genre, so I can&#8217;t say how good it is relative to the competition, but I&#8217;m very happy with it so far.<br />
As for the difficulty, I got stuck on the 4th level, but I was soon able to buy the unlock to allow me to skip straight to that level to learn its tricks, which is a great way round the problem of having to replay to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Poo Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46528</link>
		<dc:creator>Poo Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 18:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no demo so it&#039;s a total gamble. If you don&#039;t mind losing $9 then take a spin. I threw the dice and didn&#039;t like it, I must try and remember to resist hype in future.

I finished the first level after 5mins, the second after 15mins. Then I realised I&#039;d have to keep playing through all these levels over and over as I progressed. Then the guitar twanging started to grate. Game over. 

Lesson - if there&#039;s no demo then don&#039;t buy it unless there is a refund policy. No demo and/or no refund policy means there is something fishy.

Funny how every(?) little indie developer website has a 30day no quibble return policy, yet Valve won&#039;t offer the same on ANY of its games and selectively removes demos if it thinks it might prevent a sale.

p.s. &quot;Well, that’s one of the three generally-accepted reasons to have spent money on a PS3 struck out&quot; there must be a major fucking games drought on that console if this is one of the 3 best games!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no demo so it&#8217;s a total gamble. If you don&#8217;t mind losing $9 then take a spin. I threw the dice and didn&#8217;t like it, I must try and remember to resist hype in future.</p>
<p>I finished the first level after 5mins, the second after 15mins. Then I realised I&#8217;d have to keep playing through all these levels over and over as I progressed. Then the guitar twanging started to grate. Game over. </p>
<p>Lesson &#8211; if there&#8217;s no demo then don&#8217;t buy it unless there is a refund policy. No demo and/or no refund policy means there is something fishy.</p>
<p>Funny how every(?) little indie developer website has a 30day no quibble return policy, yet Valve won&#8217;t offer the same on ANY of its games and selectively removes demos if it thinks it might prevent a sale.</p>
<p>p.s. &#8220;Well, that’s one of the three generally-accepted reasons to have spent money on a PS3 struck out&#8221; there must be a major fucking games drought on that console if this is one of the 3 best games!</p>
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		<title>By: Heliocentricity</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46520</link>
		<dc:creator>Heliocentricity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 18:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it worth &lt;strike&gt;10&lt;/strike&gt; 9 amerikana space bucks though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it worth <strike>10</strike> 9 amerikana space bucks though?</p>
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		<title>By: Poo Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46500</link>
		<dc:creator>Poo Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kanakotka: Question; Since when, have you been able to return a game if you hadn’t liked it?

If you buy something online you&#039;ve been able to get your money back by law, for a very long time. Obviously this is a UK thing though, but as they are trading in the UK I&#039;d have thought it should still apply.

The Office Of Fair Trading
&quot;Under the regulations businesses must give consumers a seven working day cooling-off period in which the order can be cancelled and a refund claimed.&quot;

&quot;The DSRs give extra protection to consumers who shop using methods such as mail order, the INTERNET, telephone or cable television.&quot;
http://www.oft.gov.uk/news/press/2004/40-04</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kanakotka: Question; Since when, have you been able to return a game if you hadn’t liked it?</p>
<p>If you buy something online you&#8217;ve been able to get your money back by law, for a very long time. Obviously this is a UK thing though, but as they are trading in the UK I&#8217;d have thought it should still apply.</p>
<p>The Office Of Fair Trading<br />
&#8220;Under the regulations businesses must give consumers a seven working day cooling-off period in which the order can be cancelled and a refund claimed.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The DSRs give extra protection to consumers who shop using methods such as mail order, the INTERNET, telephone or cable television.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.oft.gov.uk/news/press/2004/40-04" rel="nofollow">http://www.oft.gov.uk/news/press/2004/40-04</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kanakotka</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46498</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanakotka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question; Since when, have you been able to return a game if you hadn&#039;t liked it? :P Without lying with excuses like &#039;&#039;it didn&#039;t work on my computer&#039;&#039; at the retail store and not getting all of your money back anyway?

Also, shameless link. Truly shameless. Why not link your own page? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question; Since when, have you been able to return a game if you hadn&#8217;t liked it? :P Without lying with excuses like &#8221;it didn&#8217;t work on my computer&#8221; at the retail store and not getting all of your money back anyway?</p>
<p>Also, shameless link. Truly shameless. Why not link your own page?</p>
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		<title>By: cliffski</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46497</link>
		<dc:creator>cliffski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you liked mutant storm you might like this:
http://www.puppygames.net/droid-assault/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you liked mutant storm you might like this:<br />
<a href="http://www.puppygames.net/droid-assault/" rel="nofollow">http://www.puppygames.net/droid-assault/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Poo Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46496</link>
		<dc:creator>Poo Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>addendum - be very careful buying this game, steam will not give you a refund if you don&#039;t like it. Even though the Distance Selling Regulations state any online purchase can be refunded within 7 days. I guess because they are American they think they can do what they like. They really should have released a demo for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>addendum &#8211; be very careful buying this game, steam will not give you a refund if you don&#8217;t like it. Even though the Distance Selling Regulations state any online purchase can be refunded within 7 days. I guess because they are American they think they can do what they like. They really should have released a demo for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Poo Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/08/everyday-shooter-on-steam/comment-page-1/#comment-46472</link>
		<dc:creator>Poo Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about hype - sheesh! Mutant Storm is waay better, even Geometry Wars is better than this. I can see why there is no demo on Steam, I wonder if I can get my money back??

The idea of triggering riffs from your impacts is a good one, as demonstrated by Rez, Space invaders extreme and Meteos. Here we have someone who seems like a complete guitar novice - no thanks.

Please let me save after completing a level. The new levels have new mechanics so the first 3 or 4 times you enter a new level you are guaranteed to die until you figure it out. Of course, death means starting from square one again. On very rare occasions games can pull this off i.e. when replaying isn&#039;t repetitive. Here it is a real pain, how many times do you want me to complete that first level? Ok I know some people don&#039;t mind unending repetition, they just want the high score - but come on. Another reason why a demo would have been nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about hype &#8211; sheesh! Mutant Storm is waay better, even Geometry Wars is better than this. I can see why there is no demo on Steam, I wonder if I can get my money back??</p>
<p>The idea of triggering riffs from your impacts is a good one, as demonstrated by Rez, Space invaders extreme and Meteos. Here we have someone who seems like a complete guitar novice &#8211; no thanks.</p>
<p>Please let me save after completing a level. The new levels have new mechanics so the first 3 or 4 times you enter a new level you are guaranteed to die until you figure it out. Of course, death means starting from square one again. On very rare occasions games can pull this off i.e. when replaying isn&#8217;t repetitive. Here it is a real pain, how many times do you want me to complete that first level? Ok I know some people don&#8217;t mind unending repetition, they just want the high score &#8211; but come on. Another reason why a demo would have been nice.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 10:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tunips

That&#039;s where I played it too. My favourite game there.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s where I played it too. My favourite game there.</p>
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