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	<title>Comments on: EA Backs Down From 10-Day Authentication</title>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-158948</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sucks for old school gamers. I know I&#039;ll want to play this in 15 years or so for nostala, but i doubt the activation server will be around, and what this means i&#039;ll have no choice but to play as torrent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sucks for old school gamers. I know I&#8217;ll want to play this in 15 years or so for nostala, but i doubt the activation server will be around, and what this means i&#8217;ll have no choice but to play as torrent.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-122087</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no they did not. The DRM measures are still there. They listened to you without actually listening to you. You silly bugger. Or did you not read the bit about basic negotiation 101?

ps: don&#039;t hate me because i speak the truth, it hurts your ego to be proven wrong, and you&#039;re too lazy to read all of someone&#039;s post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no they did not. The DRM measures are still there. They listened to you without actually listening to you. You silly bugger. Or did you not read the bit about basic negotiation 101?</p>
<p>ps: don&#8217;t hate me because i speak the truth, it hurts your ego to be proven wrong, and you&#8217;re too lazy to read all of someone&#8217;s post</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-65100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Mario

And yet they did.

ps: don’t hate me because i speak the truth and it hurts your ego to be proven wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Mario</p>
<p>And yet they did.</p>
<p>ps: don’t hate me because i speak the truth and it hurts your ego to be proven wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-50087</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh the silly fools that are most of you... (this isn&#039;t really a personal attack because: a) i am generalizing and b) i don&#039;t know any of you.)

business model 101 says that you go in to negotiate asking for more then you really want and are happy when the negotiations go like:

seller: 15million
buyer: 10million
seller: deal (smirks, knowing that was what he wanted anyway)
internet fanboys: fooled by ea using normal business tactic. grow up. why would you care about a ten day reactivation check if you don&#039;t care about the initial one ? that doesn&#039;t make any sense.

and to the morons giving microsoft as an example for phone activation. yeah, a global company that has toll free numbers for every fucking country it officially sells in. (or at least call collect, also free or at worst local call) show me the current free global telephone numbers for bioshock.

as for removing the protection later on ?? like fuck. we now do have some history with bioshock. it&#039;s been october &#039;07 since release - 8 months and still nothing has changed. and it won&#039;t for quite a while. why would it ? that would make it much easier for the crackers to see the difference between an official clean bioshock executable with no online authentication to the original one. so in my opinion, it will not be removed for years, or maybe until it becomes re-released under a budget label. (97% of budget re-releases to date remove the protection to keep the price down by not paying royalty to the protection maker.)

ps: don&#039;t hate me because i speak the truth and it hurts your ego to be proven wrong. (advertising or not, i would love any serious pro/anti drm advocate amongst you to continue this over at my place. i say this because: a) this place does not bump the story so as it is, this current story is forgotten, and b) i do not censor anything... you will be able to say anything. ....ANYTHING!!)





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh the silly fools that are most of you&#8230; (this isn&#8217;t really a personal attack because: a) i am generalizing and b) i don&#8217;t know any of you.)</p>
<p>business model 101 says that you go in to negotiate asking for more then you really want and are happy when the negotiations go like:</p>
<p>seller: 15million<br />
buyer: 10million<br />
seller: deal (smirks, knowing that was what he wanted anyway)<br />
internet fanboys: fooled by ea using normal business tactic. grow up. why would you care about a ten day reactivation check if you don&#8217;t care about the initial one ? that doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</p>
<p>and to the morons giving microsoft as an example for phone activation. yeah, a global company that has toll free numbers for every fucking country it officially sells in. (or at least call collect, also free or at worst local call) show me the current free global telephone numbers for bioshock.</p>
<p>as for removing the protection later on ?? like fuck. we now do have some history with bioshock. it&#8217;s been october &#8216;07 since release &#8211; 8 months and still nothing has changed. and it won&#8217;t for quite a while. why would it ? that would make it much easier for the crackers to see the difference between an official clean bioshock executable with no online authentication to the original one. so in my opinion, it will not be removed for years, or maybe until it becomes re-released under a budget label. (97% of budget re-releases to date remove the protection to keep the price down by not paying royalty to the protection maker.)</p>
<p>ps: don&#8217;t hate me because i speak the truth and it hurts your ego to be proven wrong. (advertising or not, i would love any serious pro/anti drm advocate amongst you to continue this over at my place. i say this because: a) this place does not bump the story so as it is, this current story is forgotten, and b) i do not censor anything&#8230; you will be able to say anything. &#8230;.ANYTHING!!)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.taxi583.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.taxi583.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-47075</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawt.

Then I will probably buy it once it hits that $40 sweet spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawt.</p>
<p>Then I will probably buy it once it hits that $40 sweet spot.</p>
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		<title>By: cHeal</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-47036</link>
		<dc:creator>cHeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So these games /still/ have copy protection which is more restricted than Bioshocks?  Why are people so happy?  

There is still no evidence to suggest that the install restriction will be removed, a restriction, which if it was aimed at combatting piracy could probably be removed within the space of 1 month if we&#039;re being honest.  No the install restriction is a clear attack on the second hand market, and will need to be left operational for a couple of years atleast to have any impact.

And Mass Effect still requires online authentication upon installation.  Oh yay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So these games /still/ have copy protection which is more restricted than Bioshocks?  Why are people so happy?  </p>
<p>There is still no evidence to suggest that the install restriction will be removed, a restriction, which if it was aimed at combatting piracy could probably be removed within the space of 1 month if we&#8217;re being honest.  No the install restriction is a clear attack on the second hand market, and will need to be left operational for a couple of years atleast to have any impact.</p>
<p>And Mass Effect still requires online authentication upon installation.  Oh yay.</p>
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		<title>By: theleif</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-46867</link>
		<dc:creator>theleif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 15:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares why they did it? PR stunt or not, they changed it, and that&#039;s what counts.
As long as the 3 computer limit will be removed after some time I&#039;m fine with it. I&#039;d hate to discover I&#039;m out of installs and try to find a phone number somewhere on the internet in five years when i decide i want another run of Mass Effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares why they did it? PR stunt or not, they changed it, and that&#8217;s what counts.<br />
As long as the 3 computer limit will be removed after some time I&#8217;m fine with it. I&#8217;d hate to discover I&#8217;m out of installs and try to find a phone number somewhere on the internet in five years when i decide i want another run of Mass Effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-46836</link>
		<dc:creator>Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 11:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gonna have to add my voice to the cynics.

If this plan had been run by PR, I doubt it would have got very far. It&#039;s not to much to think that, maybe, EA would want to look like the &#039;good guy listening to customers&#039; by &#039;reducing&#039; their DRM - to what is currently pretty much the highest level on PC games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna have to add my voice to the cynics.</p>
<p>If this plan had been run by PR, I doubt it would have got very far. It&#8217;s not to much to think that, maybe, EA would want to look like the &#8216;good guy listening to customers&#8217; by &#8216;reducing&#8217; their DRM &#8211; to what is currently pretty much the highest level on PC games.</p>
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		<title>By: zerotwo</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-46761</link>
		<dc:creator>zerotwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! I can buy spore again!  No more boycott!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! I can buy spore again!  No more boycott!</p>
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		<title>By: sigma83</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-46752</link>
		<dc:creator>sigma83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>might have been said before, but I think the announcement of the 10-day thing was just a stunt to get us to forget about SECUrom as a whole. Kind of like announcing that shit will no longer be flung in the coffee room to make us forget that shit is being served in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>might have been said before, but I think the announcement of the 10-day thing was just a stunt to get us to forget about SECUrom as a whole. Kind of like announcing that shit will no longer be flung in the coffee room to make us forget that shit is being served in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitkari</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-46747</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitkari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 16:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of the fire, back into the frying pan then.

*golf clap*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of the fire, back into the frying pan then.</p>
<p>*golf clap*</p>
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		<title>By: Mungrul</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/09/bioware-back-down-from-10-day-authorisation/comment-page-2/#comment-46734</link>
		<dc:creator>Mungrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve not seen mentioned: You can bet your arse that EA will charge you for the privilege of ringing them to activate your game once you&#039;ve used your 3 strikes.
The only way the 3-strikes option could be even remotely acceptable would be if the number you had to ring was a freephone number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve not seen mentioned: You can bet your arse that EA will charge you for the privilege of ringing them to activate your game once you&#8217;ve used your 3 strikes.<br />
The only way the 3-strikes option could be even remotely acceptable would be if the number you had to ring was a freephone number.</p>
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