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	<title>Comments on: Bus Simulator 2008 Demo!</title>
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		<title>By: Mirki</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-263722</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O njerzz ku muj me dawloduu un qet loj  kush te din let em kallxon diqkaa ju pres ne add tem Mirki.g@live.com me ResPect Mirky.Ss:D    ,,,,,,,,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O njerzz ku muj me dawloduu un qet loj  kush te din let em kallxon diqkaa ju pres ne add tem <a href="mailto:Mirki.g@live.com">Mirki.g@live.com</a> me ResPect Mirky.Ss:D    ,,,,,,,,</p>
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		<title>By: Diggerman</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-121066</link>
		<dc:creator>Diggerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have the original bus driver but the bus doesnt turn wat do i do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the original bus driver but the bus doesnt turn wat do i do</p>
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		<title>By: malkav11</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-47251</link>
		<dc:creator>malkav11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 05:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should get fined for arriving ahead of time. I&#039;ve talked to bus drivers and the one thing they all agree on is that you do not arrive at a stop early (or if you do, you then wait there until the proper time). Late is much more acceptable. In fact, I don&#039;t know that there&#039;s any sort of penalty for lateness, at least around here. Because fundamentally the things that cause lateness are not under your control - passenger load, disruptive passengers, traffic, bus breakdowns, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should get fined for arriving ahead of time. I&#8217;ve talked to bus drivers and the one thing they all agree on is that you do not arrive at a stop early (or if you do, you then wait there until the proper time). Late is much more acceptable. In fact, I don&#8217;t know that there&#8217;s any sort of penalty for lateness, at least around here. Because fundamentally the things that cause lateness are not under your control &#8211; passenger load, disruptive passengers, traffic, bus breakdowns, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Testicular Torsion</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-47221</link>
		<dc:creator>Testicular Torsion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah! Can&#039;t hold a candle to Desert Bus. Now *that* was a bus-driving game with a solid gold sack...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah! Can&#8217;t hold a candle to Desert Bus. Now *that* was a bus-driving game with a solid gold sack&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lunaran</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-47195</link>
		<dc:creator>Lunaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I tried this out.

The game fines you 50 euros for running a red light, but if you drive up on the sidewalk and go around the intersection without touching anything it doesn&#039;t notice and you aren&#039;t fined.  Plus, yellow lights count as red, so even green lights can&#039;t be trusted not to suddenly turn yellow and fine you, so the game basically encourages you to drive on the sidewalk all the time.

That actually makes it pretty damn fun - you can&#039;t cause property damage or it&#039;s also a 50 euro fine, but if you can careen from one bus stop to another without stopping for a single light you can arrive at each stop a full minute ahead of time.

I was actually pretty disappointed the demo only had one bus and one level. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I tried this out.</p>
<p>The game fines you 50 euros for running a red light, but if you drive up on the sidewalk and go around the intersection without touching anything it doesn&#8217;t notice and you aren&#8217;t fined.  Plus, yellow lights count as red, so even green lights can&#8217;t be trusted not to suddenly turn yellow and fine you, so the game basically encourages you to drive on the sidewalk all the time.</p>
<p>That actually makes it pretty damn fun &#8211; you can&#8217;t cause property damage or it&#8217;s also a 50 euro fine, but if you can careen from one bus stop to another without stopping for a single light you can arrive at each stop a full minute ahead of time.</p>
<p>I was actually pretty disappointed the demo only had one bus and one level. :(</p>
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		<title>By: tmp</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-47129</link>
		<dc:creator>tmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah, but at least Flight Simulator has pretty decent graphics, and you can fly. Flying is inherently fun, and has lots of opportunities for creative play. Driving a train is not particularly fun and does not allow for much in the way of variety or creativity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, the quality of graphics between flight simulators and ground simulators released at similar time is quite comparable (ground simulators have much harder task here given the camera is much closer to objects that can be simulated with just good texture in flight simulator most of the time). I&#039;ll disagree on the train driving not being fun -- it&#039;s very different from flying or driving a car, but it can be equally challenging due to involved momentum. Plus like mentioned, it&#039;s something even more exotic for average human than flying a plane.

As far as creativity/variety goes... the DLC for train simulators and community involved in creation of extra content is huge, to the point where it&#039;s literally &quot;serious business&quot; with multiple commercial expansion packs released each year.

Now the bus simulation thing i don&#039;t know (my only experience with that kind of games was something on original Playstation that i can&#039;t remember name of) But i think it can have very similar appeal to some that flight and/or train simulators have to others, so not going to act all surprised over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, but at least Flight Simulator has pretty decent graphics, and you can fly. Flying is inherently fun, and has lots of opportunities for creative play. Driving a train is not particularly fun and does not allow for much in the way of variety or creativity.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, the quality of graphics between flight simulators and ground simulators released at similar time is quite comparable (ground simulators have much harder task here given the camera is much closer to objects that can be simulated with just good texture in flight simulator most of the time). I&#8217;ll disagree on the train driving not being fun &#8212; it&#8217;s very different from flying or driving a car, but it can be equally challenging due to involved momentum. Plus like mentioned, it&#8217;s something even more exotic for average human than flying a plane.</p>
<p>As far as creativity/variety goes&#8230; the DLC for train simulators and community involved in creation of extra content is huge, to the point where it&#8217;s literally &#8220;serious business&#8221; with multiple commercial expansion packs released each year.</p>
<p>Now the bus simulation thing i don&#8217;t know (my only experience with that kind of games was something on original Playstation that i can&#8217;t remember name of) But i think it can have very similar appeal to some that flight and/or train simulators have to others, so not going to act all surprised over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of... the omnibus seems to have broken down somewhere.  Perhaps that facehugger had deleterious effects after all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of&#8230; the omnibus seems to have broken down somewhere.  Perhaps that facehugger had deleterious effects after all?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-47118</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m waiting for Commute Simulator. Wake up early! In order to get a seat on the bus. Jostle! With fellow commuters on the train. Sprint! Through the town centre trying to make the fast bus connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m waiting for Commute Simulator. Wake up early! In order to get a seat on the bus. Jostle! With fellow commuters on the train. Sprint! Through the town centre trying to make the fast bus connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen K</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-47110</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to play a roguelike where you play as a bus passenger and watch swarms of ASCII chavs circle your seat before moving in for the kill. Their behaviours would all be procedurally generated, naturally. You win if you can make it all the way to the last terminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to play a roguelike where you play as a bus passenger and watch swarms of ASCII chavs circle your seat before moving in for the kill. Their behaviours would all be procedurally generated, naturally. You win if you can make it all the way to the last terminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but at least Flight Simulator has pretty decent graphics, and &lt;i&gt;you can fly&lt;/i&gt;. Flying is inherently fun, and has lots of opportunities for creative play. Driving a train is not particularly fun and does not allow for much in the way of variety or creativity. At least with trains you&#039;ve got the trainspotter element. But buses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but at least Flight Simulator has pretty decent graphics, and <i>you can fly</i>. Flying is inherently fun, and has lots of opportunities for creative play. Driving a train is not particularly fun and does not allow for much in the way of variety or creativity. At least with trains you&#8217;ve got the trainspotter element. But buses?</p>
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		<title>By: tmp</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/bus-simulator-2008-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-47092</link>
		<dc:creator>tmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who are the people who buy games like this and Train Simulator or 18 Wheels of Steel? I mean, I can kind of understand the appeal for 10 minutes, but to actually devote time to it seems bizarre.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Same kind of people that&#039;s been buying Flight Simulator games and such since early 80&#039;s... like say, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=1497&quot;&gt;this guy&lt;/a&gt;. Especially when it comes to train simulators, since it&#039;s easier to get a RL flying license than opportunity to drive a real train. So for many, that&#039;s the only way to experience it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who are the people who buy games like this and Train Simulator or 18 Wheels of Steel? I mean, I can kind of understand the appeal for 10 minutes, but to actually devote time to it seems bizarre.</p></blockquote>
<p>Same kind of people that&#8217;s been buying Flight Simulator games and such since early 80&#8217;s&#8230; like say, <a href="http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=1497">this guy</a>. Especially when it comes to train simulators, since it&#8217;s easier to get a RL flying license than opportunity to drive a real train. So for many, that&#8217;s the only way to experience it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lunaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lunaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there you go, that&#039;s him right there.  That&#039;s the market.  No journonism necessary, he just showed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there you go, that&#8217;s him right there.  That&#8217;s the market.  No journonism necessary, he just showed up.</p>
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