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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/16/blizzard-plays-nicely-with-the-other-boys/#comment-48914</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 10:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul Barnett, any chance of one of those beta keys to Warhammer Online (if you come through I&#039;ll record myself skipping around gayly singing the &quot;I&#039;ve got a golden ticket&quot; song from Willy Wonka)? My own attempt at key grabbing has thus far failed, as has my GW HQ connection (most disappointing considering how long he&#039;s been working for them). If you&#039;re reading here and posting I figure, although cheeky, it can&#039;t hurt to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul Barnett, any chance of one of those beta keys to Warhammer Online (if you come through I&#8217;ll record myself skipping around gayly singing the &#8220;I&#8217;ve got a golden ticket&#8221; song from Willy Wonka)? My own attempt at key grabbing has thus far failed, as has my GW HQ connection (most disappointing considering how long he&#8217;s been working for them). If you&#8217;re reading here and posting I figure, although cheeky, it can&#8217;t hurt to ask.
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		<title>By: Paul Barnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know its popular to side with darkness, and my natural state is quite dark, however on the topic of Blizzard I have some personal experience so I thought I wold share.

I have been invited to Blizzard a few times, been treated well, spoken at length to Blizz people and generally been welcomed with a good heart and friendship. Sure they are in business, but you know what, very few people walk the same path as them, so their attitude to fellow MMO devs from my experience has been very good. Jeff Kaplan also went out of his way to send my boy some really nice WOW swag for his birthday. 

Now it may all be a cunning trick, but if it is, its a long running and nice trick.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know its popular to side with darkness, and my natural state is quite dark, however on the topic of Blizzard I have some personal experience so I thought I wold share.</p>
<p>I have been invited to Blizzard a few times, been treated well, spoken at length to Blizz people and generally been welcomed with a good heart and friendship. Sure they are in business, but you know what, very few people walk the same path as them, so their attitude to fellow MMO devs from my experience has been very good. Jeff Kaplan also went out of his way to send my boy some really nice WOW swag for his birthday. </p>
<p>Now it may all be a cunning trick, but if it is, its a long running and nice trick.</p>
<p>Paul Barnett
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		<title>By: Kommissar Nicko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kommissar Nicko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Sebmojo&quot;&gt;It’s not even true if you discount the fact that delivering a polished, working, fun product counts as massively innovative in teh MMO space - there’s hundreds of innovations, big and small in Wow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You see, is a joke! MMOs are boring fellows! WoW makes them funtimes for all, and is innovative for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Sebmojo"><p>It’s not even true if you discount the fact that delivering a polished, working, fun product counts as massively innovative in teh MMO space &#8211; there’s hundreds of innovations, big and small in Wow.</p></blockquote>
<p>You see, is a joke! MMOs are boring fellows! WoW makes them funtimes for all, and is innovative for it!
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		<title>By: grumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>grumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Whats a diku?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIKU
:)
However, a DIKU MUD is a MUD made by students at DIKU. ;)</description>
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Whats a diku?
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<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIKU" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIKU</a><br />
:)<br />
However, a DIKU MUD is a MUD made by students at DIKU. ;)
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		<title>By: sigma83</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigma83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 10:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I&#039;d agree with that. WoW is still pretty good though :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I&#8217;d agree with that. WoW is still pretty good though :P
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		<title>By: Kadayi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kadayi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 10:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;It’s not even true if you discount the fact that delivering a polished, working, fun product counts as massively innovative in teh MMO space - there’s hundreds of innovations, big and small in Wow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Enhancing or streamlining an existing experience is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; innovation. Innovation in gaming occurs where someone introduces an entirely new aspect, that impacts upon everything else. Wii controller, that&#039;s innovation. Gravity Gun in Half-Life 2, that&#039;s innovation. Making a better quest delivery system is certainly helpful, but isn&#039;t innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>It’s not even true if you discount the fact that delivering a polished, working, fun product counts as massively innovative in teh MMO space &#8211; there’s hundreds of innovations, big and small in Wow.</p></blockquote>
<p>Enhancing or streamlining an existing experience is <i>not</i> innovation. Innovation in gaming occurs where someone introduces an entirely new aspect, that impacts upon everything else. Wii controller, that&#8217;s innovation. Gravity Gun in Half-Life 2, that&#8217;s innovation. Making a better quest delivery system is certainly helpful, but isn&#8217;t innovation.
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		<title>By: sigma83</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigma83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The streamlining of the quest system leaps out at me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The streamlining of the quest system leaps out at me
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		<title>By: Sebmojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebmojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everyone always have an air of delivering deep wisdom when they say &#039;Blizzard! polisher!  not innovator!@!&#039;?

It&#039;s not even true if you discount the fact that delivering a polished, working, fun product counts as massively innovative in teh MMO space - there&#039;s hundreds of innovations, big and small in Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everyone always have an air of delivering deep wisdom when they say &#8216;Blizzard! polisher!  not innovator!@!&#8217;?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not even true if you discount the fact that delivering a polished, working, fun product counts as massively innovative in teh MMO space &#8211; there&#8217;s hundreds of innovations, big and small in Wow.
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eventually Blizzard will lose the hardcore raiders and PvPers. The actual MMO players. People that came to WoW from DaoC or Everquest. They&#039;ll move on. And Blizz will be left with 90% of it&#039;s customer base.

This keeps coming up in my WoW guild &quot;Are you going to try WAR/Conan?&quot; they ask. &quot;No,&quot; replies I, &quot;I don&#039;t play MMOs&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually Blizzard will lose the hardcore raiders and PvPers. The actual MMO players. People that came to WoW from DaoC or Everquest. They&#8217;ll move on. And Blizz will be left with 90% of it&#8217;s customer base.</p>
<p>This keeps coming up in my WoW guild &#8220;Are you going to try WAR/Conan?&#8221; they ask. &#8220;No,&#8221; replies I, &#8220;I don&#8217;t play MMOs&#8221;.
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		<title>By: mystic sika</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystic sika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blizzard used to be addicted to EQ.

its no wonder they made wow lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blizzard used to be addicted to EQ.</p>
<p>its no wonder they made wow lol.
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		<title>By: Kadayi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kadayi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;they need new stuff to copy&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree with cyrenic, you&#039;ve pretty much hit the nail on the head there shcraa. There isn&#039;t a great deal of innovation to WoW, in terms of building on what came before, it&#039;s more that Blizzard have made it a much more accessible and polished experience. I don&#039;t think there is anything wrong with that in itself (they&#039;ve made MMOs truly mainstream). I think the problem is that unfortunately because of the unrivaled success of WoW and the depth of the team Blizzard can keep going on the project, it makes the challenge that much greater for anyone else hoping to enter the market place, and capture a profitable market share of the MMO audience. It&#039;s like going head to head with East Enders in the TV ratings. There is a finite audience out there for these games. 

I certainly think there&#039;s potential for development in the MMO market, but I don&#039;t think it lies in following the existing MMO model, but instead taking a different direction. One of the big questions I think about with MMOs is, is it entirely necessary for there to be 10,000 other players on this server nowadays? If you created an MMO where each game server housed maybe only 100 players, how much different an experience could it be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>they need new stuff to copy</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with cyrenic, you&#8217;ve pretty much hit the nail on the head there shcraa. There isn&#8217;t a great deal of innovation to WoW, in terms of building on what came before, it&#8217;s more that Blizzard have made it a much more accessible and polished experience. I don&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with that in itself (they&#8217;ve made MMOs truly mainstream). I think the problem is that unfortunately because of the unrivaled success of WoW and the depth of the team Blizzard can keep going on the project, it makes the challenge that much greater for anyone else hoping to enter the market place, and capture a profitable market share of the MMO audience. It&#8217;s like going head to head with East Enders in the TV ratings. There is a finite audience out there for these games. </p>
<p>I certainly think there&#8217;s potential for development in the MMO market, but I don&#8217;t think it lies in following the existing MMO model, but instead taking a different direction. One of the big questions I think about with MMOs is, is it entirely necessary for there to be 10,000 other players on this server nowadays? If you created an MMO where each game server housed maybe only 100 players, how much different an experience could it be?
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		<title>By: sigma83</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is I a blizz fanboi cause I is excited about expac?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is I a blizz fanboi cause I is excited about expac?
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