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	<title>Comments on: DoomBreedGrounds: Z-Hunter</title>
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		<title>By: Heliocentric</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/02/doombreedgrounds/comment-page-1/#comment-65272</link>
		<dc:creator>Heliocentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ malkav11  the slingshot at balloons, alien spaceships and passing mail birds. (in the ds one never played the gc one)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ malkav11  the slingshot at balloons, alien spaceships and passing mail birds. (in the ds one never played the gc one)</p>
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		<title>By: iainl</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/02/doombreedgrounds/comment-page-1/#comment-64192</link>
		<dc:creator>iainl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks remarkably like Loaded on the PS1, which featured PWEI on the soundtrack, nerd-fact fans. It was also great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks remarkably like Loaded on the PS1, which featured PWEI on the soundtrack, nerd-fact fans. It was also great.</p>
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		<title>By: Jubaal</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/02/doombreedgrounds/comment-page-1/#comment-64161</link>
		<dc:creator>Jubaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do miss some of the old top down shooters. Chaos Engine was a big favourite and Alien Breed will always have a warm place in my heart.

It also makes me thing of the old BBC Micro Gauntletesq game called Dunjunz. Ah I had hours of fun on that as a kid, four of you crammed onto the keyboard watching the split screen trying not to touch the hands of the boy with sweaty hands or warts. Those were the days....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do miss some of the old top down shooters. Chaos Engine was a big favourite and Alien Breed will always have a warm place in my heart.</p>
<p>It also makes me thing of the old BBC Micro Gauntletesq game called Dunjunz. Ah I had hours of fun on that as a kid, four of you crammed onto the keyboard watching the split screen trying not to touch the hands of the boy with sweaty hands or warts. Those were the days&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: malkav11</title>
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		<dc:creator>malkav11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, when do you shoot things in Animal Crossing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, when do you shoot things in Animal Crossing?</p>
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		<title>By: Al3xand3r</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/02/doombreedgrounds/comment-page-1/#comment-63954</link>
		<dc:creator>Al3xand3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Shadowgrounds is not only great but indie so BUY it! Alien Swarm was great but Shadowgrounds is much better.&quot;

I do own Shadowgrounds on Steam but I have to say, I certainly look forward to Alien Swarm: Infested more and will be willing to buy it if it&#039;s at least as good as the mod version which was certainly much better than Shadowgrounds by all accounts, not the least of which was the ability to play online, though the single player mode was also pretty good once you figured out how to properly position your squad mates for maximum efficiency. It had a very different strategic feel in single player, perhaps with lacking squad mates controls but good enough to play and enjoy the game&#039;s content.

I found Shadowgrounds lacking in every aspect, not the least of which was the actual controls and camera which I felt was especially much worse than Alien Swarm&#039;s.

If you can get a few buddies to play with online then you&#039;re better off spending time to get ut2004 and alien swarm up and running instead of buying Shadowgrounds imho.

If single player only is your thing then you&#039;re once again better off doing as above and seeing if you can handle Alien Swarm&#039;s single player quirks, and if you can, you&#039;ll certainly enjoy it much more than Shadowgrounds imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Shadowgrounds is not only great but indie so BUY it! Alien Swarm was great but Shadowgrounds is much better.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do own Shadowgrounds on Steam but I have to say, I certainly look forward to Alien Swarm: Infested more and will be willing to buy it if it&#8217;s at least as good as the mod version which was certainly much better than Shadowgrounds by all accounts, not the least of which was the ability to play online, though the single player mode was also pretty good once you figured out how to properly position your squad mates for maximum efficiency. It had a very different strategic feel in single player, perhaps with lacking squad mates controls but good enough to play and enjoy the game&#8217;s content.</p>
<p>I found Shadowgrounds lacking in every aspect, not the least of which was the actual controls and camera which I felt was especially much worse than Alien Swarm&#8217;s.</p>
<p>If you can get a few buddies to play with online then you&#8217;re better off spending time to get ut2004 and alien swarm up and running instead of buying Shadowgrounds imho.</p>
<p>If single player only is your thing then you&#8217;re once again better off doing as above and seeing if you can handle Alien Swarm&#8217;s single player quirks, and if you can, you&#8217;ll certainly enjoy it much more than Shadowgrounds imho.</p>
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		<title>By: Heliocentric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heliocentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>turin, you are wrong.... they are shoot bad men/things games. Just like halflife, animal crossing, oblivion and super mario.

(you do shoot stuff in all these games potentially)

tennis games also fall under this genre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>turin, you are wrong&#8230;. they are shoot bad men/things games. Just like halflife, animal crossing, oblivion and super mario.</p>
<p>(you do shoot stuff in all these games potentially)</p>
<p>tennis games also fall under this genre.</p>
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		<title>By: Turin Turambar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turin Turambar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF are you speaking about, Alien Swarm and Shadowgrounds are totally different types of games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF are you speaking about, Alien Swarm and Shadowgrounds are totally different types of games.</p>
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		<title>By: ascagnel</title>
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		<dc:creator>ascagnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;the clunky controls make turning and running away a near-impossibility, there’s a glorious sense of panic and menace.&lt;/cite&gt;

No thanks.  I played enough GTA1, where turning around &lt;i&gt;on foot&lt;/i&gt; required a three-point turn.

I&#039;ll stick with Shadowgrounds, or Alien Swarm if I can get UT2004 up and running on my new laptop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>the clunky controls make turning and running away a near-impossibility, there’s a glorious sense of panic and menace.</cite></p>
<p>No thanks.  I played enough GTA1, where turning around <i>on foot</i> required a three-point turn.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick with Shadowgrounds, or Alien Swarm if I can get UT2004 up and running on my new laptop.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hopkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Hopkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For widescreen, surely you can just change the resolution via the console and do a vid_restart? Although that&#039;s not the most friendly of methods, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For widescreen, surely you can just change the resolution via the console and do a vid_restart? Although that&#8217;s not the most friendly of methods, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Or better yet, don’t pay for Shadowgrounds, just get Alien Swarm for UT2004 :P &lt;/b&gt;

Shadowgrounds is not only great but indie so BUY it! Alien Swarm was great but Shadowgrounds is much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Or better yet, don’t pay for Shadowgrounds, just get Alien Swarm for UT2004 :P </b></p>
<p>Shadowgrounds is not only great but indie so BUY it! Alien Swarm was great but Shadowgrounds is much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Duoae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duoae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nallen and Phil.

There was a demo version of that on the PC in the 90&#039;s. Unfortunately i don&#039;t think i have it. Not sure if it was fully translated to PC or whether they stopped at the demo though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nallen and Phil.</p>
<p>There was a demo version of that on the PC in the 90&#8217;s. Unfortunately i don&#8217;t think i have it. Not sure if it was fully translated to PC or whether they stopped at the demo though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nallen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Phil&quot;&gt;Pardon my ignorance but I thought Chaos Engine 2 was merely a collection of vapourware screen shots that featured a fetching shade of green. Have you actually played it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes.  Amiga ftw.

http://www.bitmap-brothers.co.uk/our-games/past/chaos-engine2.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Phil"><p>Pardon my ignorance but I thought Chaos Engine 2 was merely a collection of vapourware screen shots that featured a fetching shade of green. Have you actually played it?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.  Amiga ftw.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bitmap-brothers.co.uk/our-games/past/chaos-engine2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bitmap-brothers.co.uk/our-games/past/chaos-engine2.htm</a></p>
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