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		<title>By: James T</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-2/#comment-67245</link>
		<dc:creator>James T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that &#039;shield of irony&#039; talk was a bit overinflated, wasn&#039;t it?  One tiny jab late in the piece which he acknowledges as being somewhat hypocritical doesn&#039;t detract from the barrage of painful truth beforehand.  I don&#039;t think much of Yahtzee as a reviewer, but this one was a corker.

(although that new intro&#039;s shit, innit; hoh!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that &#8217;shield of irony&#8217; talk was a bit overinflated, wasn&#8217;t it?  One tiny jab late in the piece which he acknowledges as being somewhat hypocritical doesn&#8217;t detract from the barrage of painful truth beforehand.  I don&#8217;t think much of Yahtzee as a reviewer, but this one was a corker.</p>
<p>(although that new intro&#8217;s shit, innit; hoh!)</p>
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		<title>By: radomaj</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-2/#comment-66528</link>
		<dc:creator>radomaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delayed Response Post!

I would say journalist are not &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasites&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;parasitic&lt;/a&gt; but &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commensalism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;commensalistic&lt;/a&gt;. (How do you spell that?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delayed Response Post!</p>
<p>I would say journalist are not <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasites" rel="nofollow">parasitic</a> but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commensalism" rel="nofollow">commensalistic</a>. (How do you spell that?)</p>
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		<title>By: sinister agent</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-2/#comment-66143</link>
		<dc:creator>sinister agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;(Parasite’s something that’s lobbed at journos a lot. Rather than argue against it, I’d rather appropriate it as a badge of pride.)&lt;/i&gt;

I would experiment to test this theory, but I fear &quot;Sinister Tosser&quot; would not go down well with the hypothetical ladies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>(Parasite’s something that’s lobbed at journos a lot. Rather than argue against it, I’d rather appropriate it as a badge of pride.)</i></p>
<p>I would experiment to test this theory, but I fear &#8220;Sinister Tosser&#8221; would not go down well with the hypothetical ladies.</p>
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		<title>By: Noc</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-2/#comment-65646</link>
		<dc:creator>Noc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have vague memories of, somewhere in my high school days, someone saying &quot;That&#039;s not an animal, it&#039;s an insect!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have vague memories of, somewhere in my high school days, someone saying &#8220;That&#8217;s not an animal, it&#8217;s an insect!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Saflo</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-2/#comment-65531</link>
		<dc:creator>Saflo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand these &quot;not a reviewer&quot; comments about Zero Punctuation. Clearly he is under unique constraints, particularly a pressure to be funny-above-all-else.  Yet his best videos (Condemned, BioShock, Silent Hill Origins) feature not just consistent humor but humor fed by intelligent criticism. I&#039;m not sure the series would have lasted so long were it as simple as making fun of new games for the hell of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand these &#8220;not a reviewer&#8221; comments about Zero Punctuation. Clearly he is under unique constraints, particularly a pressure to be funny-above-all-else.  Yet his best videos (Condemned, BioShock, Silent Hill Origins) feature not just consistent humor but humor fed by intelligent criticism. I&#8217;m not sure the series would have lasted so long were it as simple as making fun of new games for the hell of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-2/#comment-65496</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oddly, and almost certainly irrelevantly, I remember running across a group of Creationists* who had a bizarre definition of “life” which excluded squid.

How do people get these things so badly wrong?&quot;

Well, when your whole worldview depends on you denying reality, you get pretty good at coming up with rationalisations for stupid shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oddly, and almost certainly irrelevantly, I remember running across a group of Creationists* who had a bizarre definition of “life” which excluded squid.</p>
<p>How do people get these things so badly wrong?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, when your whole worldview depends on you denying reality, you get pretty good at coming up with rationalisations for stupid shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Parasite&#039;s something that&#039;s lobbed at journos a lot. Rather than argue against it, I&#039;d rather appropriate it as a badge of pride.)

KG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Parasite&#8217;s something that&#8217;s lobbed at journos a lot. Rather than argue against it, I&#8217;d rather appropriate it as a badge of pride.)</p>
<p>KG</p>
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		<title>By: Gap Gen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-1/#comment-65470</link>
		<dc:creator>Gap Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to the boy, Yahtzee did start out making games himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to the boy, Yahtzee did start out making games himself.</p>
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		<title>By: sinister agent</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinister agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Parasitic=Someone who couldn’t make their living if someone else wasn’t doing something else.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s pretty much everyone in the world, surely?  Parasitic surely means that they directly harm or detract from that which they depend on to survive.  I wouldn&#039;t call critics parasites even if they did nothing but slag games off - demanding higher standards is arguably a good thing for games at large, even if it means the death of some bad ones.

Also, what Perilisk said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Parasitic=Someone who couldn’t make their living if someone else wasn’t doing something else.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty much everyone in the world, surely?  Parasitic surely means that they directly harm or detract from that which they depend on to survive.  I wouldn&#8217;t call critics parasites even if they did nothing but slag games off &#8211; demanding higher standards is arguably a good thing for games at large, even if it means the death of some bad ones.</p>
<p>Also, what Perilisk said.</p>
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		<title>By: perilisk</title>
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		<dc:creator>perilisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Parasitic=Someone who couldn’t make their living if someone else wasn’t doing something else.

In other words, all critics and satirists are in some way parasitic. In our little corner of the world, if we didn’t have games to mock or analyse, we’d be sitting here and twiddling our thumbs.

KG&quot;

Coming from someone with a biology degree, that seems like a terrible analogy. Critics (and even satirists) help customers evaluate where they can spend their money wisely, and build a culture of trust that would probably not be possible in a direct relationship between seller and customer, particularly with the way some in the industry treat their customers right now.

Every customer who avoids getting burned buying a terrible game due to an honest, well-written review is a customer who is more likely to spend money on (good) games without hesitation, as opposed to holding back for the next Blizzard release, abandoning the industry altogether, or latching on to the dubious practice of &quot;trying before you buy&quot; which I suspect allows the &quot;customer&quot; remarkably higher purchase standards than might exist with merely perfect foreknowledge of quality. 

While reviewers are terrible for the individual games that don&#039;t deserve a try, I think they&#039;re a net financial benefit to the industry as a whole. Mutualistic symbiotes, in other words. So, you know, don&#039;t be so hard on yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Parasitic=Someone who couldn’t make their living if someone else wasn’t doing something else.</p>
<p>In other words, all critics and satirists are in some way parasitic. In our little corner of the world, if we didn’t have games to mock or analyse, we’d be sitting here and twiddling our thumbs.</p>
<p>KG&#8221;</p>
<p>Coming from someone with a biology degree, that seems like a terrible analogy. Critics (and even satirists) help customers evaluate where they can spend their money wisely, and build a culture of trust that would probably not be possible in a direct relationship between seller and customer, particularly with the way some in the industry treat their customers right now.</p>
<p>Every customer who avoids getting burned buying a terrible game due to an honest, well-written review is a customer who is more likely to spend money on (good) games without hesitation, as opposed to holding back for the next Blizzard release, abandoning the industry altogether, or latching on to the dubious practice of &#8220;trying before you buy&#8221; which I suspect allows the &#8220;customer&#8221; remarkably higher purchase standards than might exist with merely perfect foreknowledge of quality. </p>
<p>While reviewers are terrible for the individual games that don&#8217;t deserve a try, I think they&#8217;re a net financial benefit to the industry as a whole. Mutualistic symbiotes, in other words. So, you know, don&#8217;t be so hard on yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: RichPowers</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-1/#comment-65413</link>
		<dc:creator>RichPowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahtzee&#039;s reviews are great because he explains &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; the game actually plays; so many other reviews lack detail and resort to bloated summarization. That he can convey a game&#039;s essence without resorting to a contrived and broken scoring system is also a plus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahtzee&#8217;s reviews are great because he explains <i>how</i> the game actually plays; so many other reviews lack detail and resort to bloated summarization. That he can convey a game&#8217;s essence without resorting to a contrived and broken scoring system is also a plus.</p>
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		<title>By: Cargo Cult</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/06/the-sunday-papers-25/comment-page-1/#comment-65402</link>
		<dc:creator>Cargo Cult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with Yahtzee is that he didn&#039;t go too far enough!

(I found the video pretty funny. I don&#039;t read Ctrl-Alt-Delete, so didn&#039;t recognise the pretty specific digs - I thought the &#039;miscarriage&#039; reference was just an imagined, truly horrible plotline that webcomics could never descend to. When I discovered that actually, such a &#039;comic&#039; actually &lt;i&gt;existed&lt;/i&gt;, and was every bit as crass and unfunny as I imagined it? Blimey.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with Yahtzee is that he didn&#8217;t go too far enough!</p>
<p>(I found the video pretty funny. I don&#8217;t read Ctrl-Alt-Delete, so didn&#8217;t recognise the pretty specific digs &#8211; I thought the &#8216;miscarriage&#8217; reference was just an imagined, truly horrible plotline that webcomics could never descend to. When I discovered that actually, such a &#8216;comic&#8217; actually <i>existed</i>, and was every bit as crass and unfunny as I imagined it? Blimey.)</p>
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