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	<title>Comments on: Definitely Not A GTA IV PC Story</title>
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		<title>By: Man Raised By Puffins</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/25/definitely-not-a-gta-iv-pc-story/comment-page-2/#comment-73156</link>
		<dc:creator>Man Raised By Puffins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ DosFreak: Unsuprisingly GTA4 uses a slightly better engine than the last generation Renderware iteration that the GTA3 series used. If the port is well handled, unlike GTA3, then I expect it shouldn&#039;t trouble PCs any more than Assassin&#039;s Creed did.

@ Paul Maloney: The Max Payne series was only published by Rockstar/Take2, all the development work was done by Remedy with some assistance from 3D Realms (although I guess the ports were done in-house). Regardless, the on-foot action in GTA4 is much improved form the passable fare of previous GTAs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DosFreak: Unsuprisingly GTA4 uses a slightly better engine than the last generation Renderware iteration that the GTA3 series used. If the port is well handled, unlike GTA3, then I expect it shouldn&#8217;t trouble PCs any more than Assassin&#8217;s Creed did.</p>
<p>@ Paul Maloney: The Max Payne series was only published by Rockstar/Take2, all the development work was done by Remedy with some assistance from 3D Realms (although I guess the ports were done in-house). Regardless, the on-foot action in GTA4 is much improved form the passable fare of previous GTAs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that irks me about GTA games is the restrictions at the start as to where you can go. What, I&#039;m supposed to be a badass criminal type but I&#039;m afraid to drive through a close road barrier? Piss off.

Give me Just Cause and all of the free-range ridiculousness that immediately ensues after starting up, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that irks me about GTA games is the restrictions at the start as to where you can go. What, I&#8217;m supposed to be a badass criminal type but I&#8217;m afraid to drive through a close road barrier? Piss off.</p>
<p>Give me Just Cause and all of the free-range ridiculousness that immediately ensues after starting up, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Moloney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Moloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could never get into the 3D GTA games, simply because the combat was so bad. I mean, GTA:VC was so much fun driving around to 80s music, but once you got out of a car, it all fell to pieces. (Not to mention the annoyance of having to switch between your mouse and your gamepad when you entered/left cars). Plus, last time I played, I couldn&#039;t get a XBox360 gamepad to play nice - at least one axis of movement wouldn&#039;t work.

Even more surprising since Rockstar are the creators of what is perhaps the best ever third-person shooter (Max Payne 1/2). 

P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could never get into the 3D GTA games, simply because the combat was so bad. I mean, GTA:VC was so much fun driving around to 80s music, but once you got out of a car, it all fell to pieces. (Not to mention the annoyance of having to switch between your mouse and your gamepad when you entered/left cars). Plus, last time I played, I couldn&#8217;t get a XBox360 gamepad to play nice &#8211; at least one axis of movement wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Even more surprising since Rockstar are the creators of what is perhaps the best ever third-person shooter (Max Payne 1/2). </p>
<p>P.</p>
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		<title>By: malkav11</title>
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		<dc:creator>malkav11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh. I was aware of Puzzle Quest&#039;s checkered past, as it were, but I really don&#039;t care what platform a game was developed on (a lot of console games see significant dev time on a PC). Puzzle Quest was still a handheld game in full long before it hit PC, XBLA, PS2, Wii, and so on. But yes, Lumines, Insectide, some others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh. I was aware of Puzzle Quest&#8217;s checkered past, as it were, but I really don&#8217;t care what platform a game was developed on (a lot of console games see significant dev time on a PC). Puzzle Quest was still a handheld game in full long before it hit PC, XBLA, PS2, Wii, and so on. But yes, Lumines, Insectide, some others.</p>
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		<title>By: haemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>haemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>malkav11 - Puzzle Quest was a PC game first, it just came out earlier on handhelds. The demo came out on PC first of all.
Lumines, however, is a real PSP-PC port. I don&#039;t know if anything with actual 3D graphics has been ported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>malkav11 &#8211; Puzzle Quest was a PC game first, it just came out earlier on handhelds. The demo came out on PC first of all.<br />
Lumines, however, is a real PSP-PC port. I don&#8217;t know if anything with actual 3D graphics has been ported.</p>
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		<title>By: Optimaximal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Optimaximal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also the articles comment that the game began on the PC is wrong it was released on the Playstation 1 as well if not before &amp; the idea that there is some sort of entitlement even if it did get it’s start on the PC is laughably ludicrous.&lt;/blockquote&gt; It&#039;s amazing how the internet brings out the clueless...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_(video_game)#Ports

The only reason GTA4 hasn&#039;t been formally announced for the PC is a) it&#039;ll steal the thunder of the DLC and drive some sales from the console versions and b) Euphoria and other technologies it uses will need tuning to work on lower-end machines.
That said, if it does eventually turn up and runs great on an old laptop (or similar), it&#039;ll be a kick in LEC&#039;s teeth about The Force Unleashed requiring a £2000 machine to run all its Havok/Euphoria guff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also the articles comment that the game began on the PC is wrong it was released on the Playstation 1 as well if not before &amp; the idea that there is some sort of entitlement even if it did get it’s start on the PC is laughably ludicrous.</p></blockquote>
<p> It&#8217;s amazing how the internet brings out the clueless&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_(video_game)#Ports" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_(video_game)#Ports</a></p>
<p>The only reason GTA4 hasn&#8217;t been formally announced for the PC is a) it&#8217;ll steal the thunder of the DLC and drive some sales from the console versions and b) Euphoria and other technologies it uses will need tuning to work on lower-end machines.<br />
That said, if it does eventually turn up and runs great on an old laptop (or similar), it&#8217;ll be a kick in LEC&#8217;s teeth about The Force Unleashed requiring a £2000 machine to run all its Havok/Euphoria guff.</p>
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		<title>By: slang</title>
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		<dc:creator>slang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Taxman
At the moment, absolutely NOTHING is known about Max Payne 3. Your claim that MP3 is going to be console only is indeed &quot;laughably ludicrous&quot;;-)

There is one serious reason most UK/US centered sites and gamers completely ignore when it comes to GTA4 and an inevitable PC version: the gaming world outside of those two English speaking territories (with the exception of Japan) is pretty much PC land.
If you want to bring GTA4 to those people you better start thinking about a PC version somewhere down the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Taxman<br />
At the moment, absolutely NOTHING is known about Max Payne 3. Your claim that MP3 is going to be console only is indeed &#8220;laughably ludicrous&#8221;;-)</p>
<p>There is one serious reason most UK/US centered sites and gamers completely ignore when it comes to GTA4 and an inevitable PC version: the gaming world outside of those two English speaking territories (with the exception of Japan) is pretty much PC land.<br />
If you want to bring GTA4 to those people you better start thinking about a PC version somewhere down the line.</p>
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		<title>By: malkav11</title>
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		<dc:creator>malkav11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kadayi: Puzzle Quest, for one. 

But seriously, I can completely understand not porting the &quot;Stories&quot; GTA games to PC. Like I say, I thought it was kinda bizarre to port them to PS2 in the first place. But they *are* GTA games, possessing all the characteristics of the series, and they aren&#039;t on PC and probably never will be. So saying that every GTA game inevitably comes to PC is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kadayi: Puzzle Quest, for one. </p>
<p>But seriously, I can completely understand not porting the &#8220;Stories&#8221; GTA games to PC. Like I say, I thought it was kinda bizarre to port them to PS2 in the first place. But they *are* GTA games, possessing all the characteristics of the series, and they aren&#8217;t on PC and probably never will be. So saying that every GTA game inevitably comes to PC is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t GTA start out as an Amiga game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t GTA start out as an Amiga game?</p>
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		<title>By: Taxman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Rockstar aren&#039;t all that enthused about making games for the PC in the first place, some of their recent (non-GTA) releases have not made an appearance on the PC. Also I think they have the Max Payne license and the rumoured Max Payne 3 is console only as well.

A PC version will happen but not any time soon I&#039;d wager not until the DLC has been finished for the consoles. 

Also the articles comment that the game began on the PC is wrong it was released on the Playstation 1 as well if not before &amp; the idea that there is some sort of entitlement even if it did get it&#039;s start on the PC is laughably ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Rockstar aren&#8217;t all that enthused about making games for the PC in the first place, some of their recent (non-GTA) releases have not made an appearance on the PC. Also I think they have the Max Payne license and the rumoured Max Payne 3 is console only as well.</p>
<p>A PC version will happen but not any time soon I&#8217;d wager not until the DLC has been finished for the consoles. </p>
<p>Also the articles comment that the game began on the PC is wrong it was released on the Playstation 1 as well if not before &amp; the idea that there is some sort of entitlement even if it did get it&#8217;s start on the PC is laughably ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: kadayi</title>
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		<dc:creator>kadayi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those PSP games aren&#039;t either as polished as the main titles, or as lengthy, that&#039;s why they haven&#039;t really been ported to any other platforms (they aren&#039;t on the 360 either). In fact what portable games have ever been ported to the PC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those PSP games aren&#8217;t either as polished as the main titles, or as lengthy, that&#8217;s why they haven&#8217;t really been ported to any other platforms (they aren&#8217;t on the 360 either). In fact what portable games have ever been ported to the PC?</p>
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		<title>By: malkav11</title>
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		<dc:creator>malkav11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, there have been two post-San Andreas iterations of the series that haven&#039;t come to the PC. Yeah, yeah, they&#039;re PSP games where even the port to PS2 was a bit surprising, but it&#039;s not true that every title in the series has shown on PC, much less in that time frame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, there have been two post-San Andreas iterations of the series that haven&#8217;t come to the PC. Yeah, yeah, they&#8217;re PSP games where even the port to PS2 was a bit surprising, but it&#8217;s not true that every title in the series has shown on PC, much less in that time frame.</p>
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