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		<title>By: Octaeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Octaeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people still commenting here!?

/hypocrisy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people still commenting here!?</p>
<p>/hypocrisy</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAOC came out way before WoW, and if anything WoW copied DAOC first. Warhammer is just another game to follow in DAOC&#039;s footsteps. Why are you guys comparing this game to a crappy game like WoW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAOC came out way before WoW, and if anything WoW copied DAOC first. Warhammer is just another game to follow in DAOC&#8217;s footsteps. Why are you guys comparing this game to a crappy game like WoW?</p>
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		<title>By: ShadeVice</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/22/rps-impressions-warhammer-online-beta/comment-page-6/#comment-89730</link>
		<dc:creator>ShadeVice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAR pwns WoW. Play it yourself to find out and stop talking about it. Everyone has their little opinions but the fact remains one must see for themself. 

Only brainless minions will listen to simple words and make a decision. PLAY IT TO KNOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAR pwns WoW. Play it yourself to find out and stop talking about it. Everyone has their little opinions but the fact remains one must see for themself. </p>
<p>Only brainless minions will listen to simple words and make a decision. PLAY IT TO KNOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/22/rps-impressions-warhammer-online-beta/comment-page-6/#comment-89252</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 7th screenshot isnt Tanaris, its Dun Morogh, the gnome starting area. With that out of the way you might be able to tell im a Wow player. Its my first ever MMO. I&#039;m a college student. Am i enough stereotypes yet? And wait for it; im not gonna compare them! People have asked me whether im going to keep playing wow or whether WAR looks better etc. I keep answering, i havent played WAR after release yet. Screenies and ppls reports from beta arent going to do it. Stop comparing, stop whining. Buy it, give it a go. If, standing on its own two feet, WAR makes you want to keep playing, then do it. 
Chaos Chosen on the way here.
Enjoy it all guys :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 7th screenshot isnt Tanaris, its Dun Morogh, the gnome starting area. With that out of the way you might be able to tell im a Wow player. Its my first ever MMO. I&#8217;m a college student. Am i enough stereotypes yet? And wait for it; im not gonna compare them! People have asked me whether im going to keep playing wow or whether WAR looks better etc. I keep answering, i havent played WAR after release yet. Screenies and ppls reports from beta arent going to do it. Stop comparing, stop whining. Buy it, give it a go. If, standing on its own two feet, WAR makes you want to keep playing, then do it.<br />
Chaos Chosen on the way here.<br />
Enjoy it all guys :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/22/rps-impressions-warhammer-online-beta/comment-page-6/#comment-89242</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than the RvR what elements of Dark Age of Camelot did Mythic throw into WAR? I myself haven&#039;t gotten around to looking into the beta and with release tomorrow. Its safe to say I wont be making it in :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than the RvR what elements of Dark Age of Camelot did Mythic throw into WAR? I myself haven&#8217;t gotten around to looking into the beta and with release tomorrow. Its safe to say I wont be making it in :P</p>
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		<title>By: zarreph</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/22/rps-impressions-warhammer-online-beta/comment-page-6/#comment-89240</link>
		<dc:creator>zarreph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the &#039;discussion&#039;, but it&#039;s too bad you guys couldn&#039;t play too much of the RvR, seeing as that&#039;s what Mythic seems to be focusing on with WAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the &#8216;discussion&#8217;, but it&#8217;s too bad you guys couldn&#8217;t play too much of the RvR, seeing as that&#8217;s what Mythic seems to be focusing on with WAR.</p>
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		<title>By: ericcs</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/22/rps-impressions-warhammer-online-beta/comment-page-6/#comment-89198</link>
		<dc:creator>ericcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everyone always say it&#039;s on the coat tails of WoW? All these games are crazy same. This reminded me more of an EQ/GW type. OPen beta was a nightmare for a lot of us but Mythic has seemed to be fixing things and fixing things. My lag and crashing has almost stopped. I&#039;d rec this one to atleast try. It&#039;s funny, when your quest is to get gnoll claws....shocking as it is every gnoll you kill has a &#039;claw&#039;. Try getting that in WoW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everyone always say it&#8217;s on the coat tails of WoW? All these games are crazy same. This reminded me more of an EQ/GW type. OPen beta was a nightmare for a lot of us but Mythic has seemed to be fixing things and fixing things. My lag and crashing has almost stopped. I&#8217;d rec this one to atleast try. It&#8217;s funny, when your quest is to get gnoll claws&#8230;.shocking as it is every gnoll you kill has a &#8216;claw&#8217;. Try getting that in WoW.</p>
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		<title>By: Valience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If mythic had wanted to they could have made the graphics Epic and revolutionary so that you couldn&#039;t take your eyes off it. Unfortunately, not everyone would have the top of the line pc to run the thing. They have to make the game for the masses. Looking at it from a marketing perspective, would you rather be able to sell your game to almost all gamers, or would you rather be able to sell it to those select few that have a high performance pc. Devs got to eat to ya know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If mythic had wanted to they could have made the graphics Epic and revolutionary so that you couldn&#8217;t take your eyes off it. Unfortunately, not everyone would have the top of the line pc to run the thing. They have to make the game for the masses. Looking at it from a marketing perspective, would you rather be able to sell your game to almost all gamers, or would you rather be able to sell it to those select few that have a high performance pc. Devs got to eat to ya know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jusmeagain</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/22/rps-impressions-warhammer-online-beta/comment-page-6/#comment-88850</link>
		<dc:creator>Jusmeagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First and formost - ITS NOT WOW.  And  it is for all those who hate the &quot;Capture the Flag&quot; PvP that WoW has.  And I love the fact that I could cap level and not have to run stupid quests.  I mean, just go kick some player butts, get into it with someone on the other end, not some mob that I have memorized his every move.  And oh yes, thank you Lord, no more running the same end game instance over and over and over for some stupid  piece of loot just so others can outroll me on it!!.
GO WAR!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First and formost &#8211; ITS NOT WOW.  And  it is for all those who hate the &#8220;Capture the Flag&#8221; PvP that WoW has.  And I love the fact that I could cap level and not have to run stupid quests.  I mean, just go kick some player butts, get into it with someone on the other end, not some mob that I have memorized his every move.  And oh yes, thank you Lord, no more running the same end game instance over and over and over for some stupid  piece of loot just so others can outroll me on it!!.<br />
GO WAR!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Icewolf</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/22/rps-impressions-warhammer-online-beta/comment-page-6/#comment-88712</link>
		<dc:creator>Icewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, you are all going to hate me and flame me by the mighty torch of death, but i dont care. This needs to be said or at least re-amphasized if it has already been done:

I stopped reading the comments about a quarter of the way through because by then War had been compared to Wow at least 20 times. This pisses me off to no small extent! If you friggin want to stay with wow then by all means keep masterbating over gnome-titties til your cock falls off, but keep IT TO YOUR SELF! The game is not called Warhammer online: The new wow. Its like we&#039;re supposed to have this huge ball and chain with wow chiseled onto it attached to our feet at a checkpoint before we&#039;re allowed to even consider having fun in new ways. &quot;Is War a cool game? Yes, but wow...&quot; &quot;Is War inovative? Yes, but wow...&quot; &quot;Is war trying its little heart out to bring satisfaction to the huge percentage of mmo players who are losing interest? Yes, but wow...&quot; 

Im friggin sick of it, and that goes to the discussion authors too. Tabula Rasa tried to wrench away from the wow chain, but you know what killed it for me? I couldnt read general chat for 5 seconds without seeing those hated 3 letters WOW pop up again and again and again. For the sake of pink lobsters! Age of Conan even went so far as to throw in nipples and crotch to try and get our minds off wow! 

Blizzard, pls take your titles and profits and get back to making the games we love you for. Finish that Diablo3 and SC2... go on, we will end up loving you for it. And finally, to every MMo gamer out there who feels a pitance for the genre: Pls, let us help make war great. Let us for get the joys of the past and help make the future more fun. 

pant...pant...pant... end rant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you are all going to hate me and flame me by the mighty torch of death, but i dont care. This needs to be said or at least re-amphasized if it has already been done:</p>
<p>I stopped reading the comments about a quarter of the way through because by then War had been compared to Wow at least 20 times. This pisses me off to no small extent! If you friggin want to stay with wow then by all means keep masterbating over gnome-titties til your cock falls off, but keep IT TO YOUR SELF! The game is not called Warhammer online: The new wow. Its like we&#8217;re supposed to have this huge ball and chain with wow chiseled onto it attached to our feet at a checkpoint before we&#8217;re allowed to even consider having fun in new ways. &#8220;Is War a cool game? Yes, but wow&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;Is War inovative? Yes, but wow&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;Is war trying its little heart out to bring satisfaction to the huge percentage of mmo players who are losing interest? Yes, but wow&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Im friggin sick of it, and that goes to the discussion authors too. Tabula Rasa tried to wrench away from the wow chain, but you know what killed it for me? I couldnt read general chat for 5 seconds without seeing those hated 3 letters WOW pop up again and again and again. For the sake of pink lobsters! Age of Conan even went so far as to throw in nipples and crotch to try and get our minds off wow! </p>
<p>Blizzard, pls take your titles and profits and get back to making the games we love you for. Finish that Diablo3 and SC2&#8230; go on, we will end up loving you for it. And finally, to every MMo gamer out there who feels a pitance for the genre: Pls, let us help make war great. Let us for get the joys of the past and help make the future more fun. </p>
<p>pant&#8230;pant&#8230;pant&#8230; end rant</p>
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		<title>By: AlloItsMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlloItsMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am liking the game so far, animations and mob AI aside, but what I&#039;m curious about is WAR&#039;s long term appeal.

Sure, scenarios are fun. For a while. But sooner or later, they&#039;re going to be just as much of a bore as WoW&#039;s battlegrounds, because they essentially are battlegrounds.  Getting exp, loot and cash from them is a novel twist on them and a step above WoW, but this doesn&#039;t detract from the fact that they are fixed scenarios and not dynamic situations. You&#039;ll have capture the flag(s) and all that jazz, but how long is it fun for?

WAR is not a particular threat to WoW just yet. It becomes a real challenger if it can keep subs and increase them over time. This means that RvR must have inherent risk and reward, as opposed to killing other players just because you should. Do you get to take a leader&#039;s head and stick it on a spike somewhere? Do you get to sack a city and carry off gear a la public quest loot style? Can you get awesome trophies, mount armours, and most importantly does beating the other side in RvR hurt them badly enough to make them fight you until they get it back? A lot of WAR&#039;s success will depend on how addictive the RvR is. For real veterans, on kills alone, give extra spell animations, there&#039;s an idea. Stuff like that. So you know you&#039;re fighting a real badass from the extra flourish his fireballs are packin&#039;, for instance.  

By the way, fire GOA. They are useless, incompetent, and I don&#039;t think Europe has committed enough sins to warrant them overseeing the complete and utter shambles of the Open Beta. God only knows the complete frak up they are going to pull off on launch day, and early access before that, but if bookies were taking bets I&#039;d bet the last few quid I&#039;m not spending on the CE version of this game that the downtime for each will be at least six hours on each respective day.

I can see the future, and it&#039;s another GOA screw-up. Don&#039;t say you weren&#039;t warned. :) If you want to get more subs in Europe, send those amateurs packing, &#039;cos we are not at all pleased with the piss poor second rate service we are getting here. Even the EU website looks like I threw rabbit droppings at it and smeared them into recognizable shapes compared to the US site.

Failing that, if you insist on keeping them, I can communicate in non-broken English in a timelier fashion to update the customer base, and I accept coffee and ham and tomato sandwiches as payment. Yanno, for that missing Community Rep job that&#039;s not listed as a vacancy, but sodding well ought to be....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am liking the game so far, animations and mob AI aside, but what I&#8217;m curious about is WAR&#8217;s long term appeal.</p>
<p>Sure, scenarios are fun. For a while. But sooner or later, they&#8217;re going to be just as much of a bore as WoW&#8217;s battlegrounds, because they essentially are battlegrounds.  Getting exp, loot and cash from them is a novel twist on them and a step above WoW, but this doesn&#8217;t detract from the fact that they are fixed scenarios and not dynamic situations. You&#8217;ll have capture the flag(s) and all that jazz, but how long is it fun for?</p>
<p>WAR is not a particular threat to WoW just yet. It becomes a real challenger if it can keep subs and increase them over time. This means that RvR must have inherent risk and reward, as opposed to killing other players just because you should. Do you get to take a leader&#8217;s head and stick it on a spike somewhere? Do you get to sack a city and carry off gear a la public quest loot style? Can you get awesome trophies, mount armours, and most importantly does beating the other side in RvR hurt them badly enough to make them fight you until they get it back? A lot of WAR&#8217;s success will depend on how addictive the RvR is. For real veterans, on kills alone, give extra spell animations, there&#8217;s an idea. Stuff like that. So you know you&#8217;re fighting a real badass from the extra flourish his fireballs are packin&#8217;, for instance.  </p>
<p>By the way, fire GOA. They are useless, incompetent, and I don&#8217;t think Europe has committed enough sins to warrant them overseeing the complete and utter shambles of the Open Beta. God only knows the complete frak up they are going to pull off on launch day, and early access before that, but if bookies were taking bets I&#8217;d bet the last few quid I&#8217;m not spending on the CE version of this game that the downtime for each will be at least six hours on each respective day.</p>
<p>I can see the future, and it&#8217;s another GOA screw-up. Don&#8217;t say you weren&#8217;t warned. :) If you want to get more subs in Europe, send those amateurs packing, &#8216;cos we are not at all pleased with the piss poor second rate service we are getting here. Even the EU website looks like I threw rabbit droppings at it and smeared them into recognizable shapes compared to the US site.</p>
<p>Failing that, if you insist on keeping them, I can communicate in non-broken English in a timelier fashion to update the customer base, and I accept coffee and ham and tomato sandwiches as payment. Yanno, for that missing Community Rep job that&#8217;s not listed as a vacancy, but sodding well ought to be&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would be nice if the aura of the CHOSEN wouldnt Agro so much monsters that are NOT in target ... people wont play that class that much if they die all the time frome stupid agro !!</description>
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