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	<title>Comments on: GOA At War &#8211; More Warhammer Publishing Worries</title>
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		<title>By: suri</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/23/goa-at-war-warhammer-publishing-worries/comment-page-1/#comment-86848</link>
		<dc:creator>suri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive now decided to wait till early launch to play, goa have messed this up bigtime and the idea of dealing with a company like them i find very off putting.

Will use my free month then dump my euro copy for the usa version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive now decided to wait till early launch to play, goa have messed this up bigtime and the idea of dealing with a company like them i find very off putting.</p>
<p>Will use my free month then dump my euro copy for the usa version.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EA would not have let an independant company take care of their brand new RPG&#039;s support, registration and Billing in Europe. 
So GOA is most probably now a part of the EA family, the only condition under which EA would not have cancelled that contract. 

Now, knowing EA, and their american centrism, they will most probably forget to take into account EA europe (and EA Goa), not even caring what they can and cannot do.

To conclude Goa staff acquired a lot of experience on DAOC, and if they were awful at first, they were not too bad at the end. But it is clear that they were not kept in the loop in open beta decisions hence the mess we are meeting and that we will meet when these servers go live. Yet they have prepared for the launch for a while, although EA (US) announced 2 months before release the street date, a release that everyone was suspecting to happen a month later. 
A bold move to steal more Acti/blizz customers, yet let&#039;s hope that the logistic did not get as surprised as we got by that announcement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EA would not have let an independant company take care of their brand new RPG&#8217;s support, registration and Billing in Europe.<br />
So GOA is most probably now a part of the EA family, the only condition under which EA would not have cancelled that contract. </p>
<p>Now, knowing EA, and their american centrism, they will most probably forget to take into account EA europe (and EA Goa), not even caring what they can and cannot do.</p>
<p>To conclude Goa staff acquired a lot of experience on DAOC, and if they were awful at first, they were not too bad at the end. But it is clear that they were not kept in the loop in open beta decisions hence the mess we are meeting and that we will meet when these servers go live. Yet they have prepared for the launch for a while, although EA (US) announced 2 months before release the street date, a release that everyone was suspecting to happen a month later.<br />
A bold move to steal more Acti/blizz customers, yet let&#8217;s hope that the logistic did not get as surprised as we got by that announcement!</p>
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		<title>By: Bursar</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/23/goa-at-war-warhammer-publishing-worries/comment-page-1/#comment-82141</link>
		<dc:creator>Bursar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s been touched upon, but has there been an &#039;official&#039; announcement about the patch schedule? Content updates are important but emergency bug fixes are very important. If the European servers end up more than 24/48 hours behind the US version wise that would be a major factor in whether I bought the game locally or tried to get a US import.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s been touched upon, but has there been an &#8216;official&#8217; announcement about the patch schedule? Content updates are important but emergency bug fixes are very important. If the European servers end up more than 24/48 hours behind the US version wise that would be a major factor in whether I bought the game locally or tried to get a US import.</p>
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		<title>By: ASH</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/08/23/goa-at-war-warhammer-publishing-worries/comment-page-1/#comment-82087</link>
		<dc:creator>ASH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh - the development of this farce is getting to be ridiculous.
Now it appears that some SE pre-orders will get Open Beta access, despite them a few days ago saying SE pre-orders didn&#039;t give Open Beta access!!

*rolleyes in a massive way*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh &#8211; the development of this farce is getting to be ridiculous.<br />
Now it appears that some SE pre-orders will get Open Beta access, despite them a few days ago saying SE pre-orders didn&#8217;t give Open Beta access!!</p>
<p>*rolleyes in a massive way*</p>
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		<title>By: Arch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the latest update from GoA on the SE OB situation

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64019</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the latest update from GoA on the SE OB situation</p>
<p><a href="http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64019" rel="nofollow">http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64019</a></p>
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		<title>By: WarhammerPlayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>WarhammerPlayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous

Thats good news about the graphics... I wonder why the GC versions looked that bad. Why would they show a poor quality version and not even announce that there is a better version?

Unfortunately this does not address my other concern (about bad animation synchronisation and generally slow feedback, interface issues), but it does make me a bit more hopeful. 

Thanks a lot for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous</p>
<p>Thats good news about the graphics&#8230; I wonder why the GC versions looked that bad. Why would they show a poor quality version and not even announce that there is a better version?</p>
<p>Unfortunately this does not address my other concern (about bad animation synchronisation and generally slow feedback, interface issues), but it does make me a bit more hopeful. </p>
<p>Thanks a lot for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add, it would be nice if journalist in the industry could take them to task to get this sorted, but I often think the reliance on advertising makes them to timid to approach companies with hard or embarassin questions whether it hurts their reader base or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add, it would be nice if journalist in the industry could take them to task to get this sorted, but I often think the reliance on advertising makes them to timid to approach companies with hard or embarassin questions whether it hurts their reader base or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot see how they GOA will have time to distribute, accept applications for Open Beta now, they have left it all to late.

Neither Mytic, Ea or GOA seem to be taking the EU community very seriously. Maybe they think our money is already in the bag regardless.

Personaly if I had the power within EA or Mythic the conference phone would be going and the &quot;you have 1 day Sort it&quot; command would be issued. Sadly I am begining to think neither Mythic or EA have the ability... Why they did not go with a UK / Swedish or German company I have no idea - at least those countries know about customer relations and organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot see how they GOA will have time to distribute, accept applications for Open Beta now, they have left it all to late.</p>
<p>Neither Mytic, Ea or GOA seem to be taking the EU community very seriously. Maybe they think our money is already in the bag regardless.</p>
<p>Personaly if I had the power within EA or Mythic the conference phone would be going and the &#8220;you have 1 day Sort it&#8221; command would be issued. Sadly I am begining to think neither Mythic or EA have the ability&#8230; Why they did not go with a UK / Swedish or German company I have no idea &#8211; at least those countries know about customer relations and organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: ASH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Elos:
The amount of work and money it would take to get somebody to take over GOA alone would mean that I seriously doubt Mythic would kick GOA out. Sounds like PR.

However, we don&#039;t even have the same basic website functions as the US, and launch date is coming ever closer.
I doubt we&#039;ll even see a Realm War page until ages into live........ I simply do not understand why GOA repeat the same mistakes from their DAoC times. I thought they were more experienced by now.

But I guess not when they basically have a carte blanche for screwing over the customer base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Elos:<br />
The amount of work and money it would take to get somebody to take over GOA alone would mean that I seriously doubt Mythic would kick GOA out. Sounds like PR.</p>
<p>However, we don&#8217;t even have the same basic website functions as the US, and launch date is coming ever closer.<br />
I doubt we&#8217;ll even see a Realm War page until ages into live&#8230;&#8230;.. I simply do not understand why GOA repeat the same mistakes from their DAoC times. I thought they were more experienced by now.</p>
<p>But I guess not when they basically have a carte blanche for screwing over the customer base.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DisappointedWarhammerPlayer - the beta client is forced to medium settings. You can use your NVidia control panel to override it to high details - or just wait until closer to launch where they&#039;ll unlock the in-game options. Specular highlighting, etc. &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; in the game. &lt;a href=&quot;http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8778/holmsteinm000di2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;example 1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3489/holmsteinm001bb8.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DisappointedWarhammerPlayer &#8211; the beta client is forced to medium settings. You can use your NVidia control panel to override it to high details &#8211; or just wait until closer to launch where they&#8217;ll unlock the in-game options. Specular highlighting, etc. <i>is</i> in the game. <a href="http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8778/holmsteinm000di2.jpg" rel="nofollow">example 1</a>, <a href="http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3489/holmsteinm001bb8.jpg" rel="nofollow">2</a></p>
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		<title>By: DisappointedWarhammerPlayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DisappointedWarhammerPlayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but after playing the game I&#039;m sorely disappointed. This close to a launch date the graphics look antiquated. There is no sign of any &quot;modern&quot; technology (specular/normal maps) or even decent use of older technology (light maps). The entire lighting in the game is horrific.

Whats worse, the client server model seems to have been completely misinterpreted. Judging by the delay I experience between pressing a button and actually seeing the appropriate animation, I must assume the server is being asked whether the animation should actually be played, or worse, the server orders the client to play the animation. Whatever the cause, even if its just client lag, its completely inacceptable in a game this big. If you&#039;ve got money to spend on a massive cinematic trailer, you should be able to provide some smooth gameplay.

Bad publishing or not, WAR has bigger problems than just its distribution in my opinion. That just seems to be the &quot;icing on the cake&quot;, if you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but after playing the game I&#8217;m sorely disappointed. This close to a launch date the graphics look antiquated. There is no sign of any &#8220;modern&#8221; technology (specular/normal maps) or even decent use of older technology (light maps). The entire lighting in the game is horrific.</p>
<p>Whats worse, the client server model seems to have been completely misinterpreted. Judging by the delay I experience between pressing a button and actually seeing the appropriate animation, I must assume the server is being asked whether the animation should actually be played, or worse, the server orders the client to play the animation. Whatever the cause, even if its just client lag, its completely inacceptable in a game this big. If you&#8217;ve got money to spend on a massive cinematic trailer, you should be able to provide some smooth gameplay.</p>
<p>Bad publishing or not, WAR has bigger problems than just its distribution in my opinion. That just seems to be the &#8220;icing on the cake&#8221;, if you will.</p>
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		<title>By: born2expire</title>
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		<dc:creator>born2expire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im really on the fence about WAR, im prime for a PVP focused game, but i got burned by AoC.

I think I&#039;ll sit on WAR for a bit, so much good stuff coming in the next 2 months, STALKER: Clear Sky, Crysis Warhead, BiA: Hell&#039;s Highway, Farcry 2 and Fallout 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im really on the fence about WAR, im prime for a PVP focused game, but i got burned by AoC.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll sit on WAR for a bit, so much good stuff coming in the next 2 months, STALKER: Clear Sky, Crysis Warhead, BiA: Hell&#8217;s Highway, Farcry 2 and Fallout 3.</p>
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