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The morality thing was interesting when I got started with BG, but now it’s pretty amusing. I agree very much with Kreia’s philosophy but you really can’t apply these in other games. Refusing to help someone usually results in a “Oh PC! How could you be so heartless!” from a goody-two-shoes npc, and there usually isn’t an answer to explain it other than “Shut up, before I skin you!”.

Jaheira and I almost always come to blows when I refuse to hand over the Harper killing sword. (can’t remember if that’s mod or not though).

I never really liked the Orcs are unrepentant evil argument, as I saw it as a nurture issue, I really do usually hate the Elves. They’re supposedly above all mortal quibbles and yet they express the same bigotry and flaws everyone else does, and they get to make more of those flaws since they live for centuries and NEVER learn from their mistakes.

For the BG2 SOA ending, good thing they intertwined getting your soul back with saving the elven city, because I would have left those assholes to die. Argh, probably the most annoying aspect about the game.

The irony was that he only cared for himself, as perhaps a real god would. They tease you throughout the game with bigger things, like perhaps you are going to stop the war, or save the lady. In the end those were to big for one man, even an immortal, he could only influence his own fate.

I did Liara’s World at about Level 40. The cutscenes were unintentionally hilarious.

Big massive cutscene of armature unfolding.

Me: Oh, no, an armature! Gosh, it’s not like we’ve been fighting those on foot the whole way here just to get more experience than you get from one-shotting them in the Mako! Hey, Tali, could you be a dear and… thanks, awfully.

Watches as AI-Hacked armature zots the geth ghosts while my team lounges against the railing and has a smoke.

Me: Hey, armature, I have to tell you, that’s some great stuff. Listen, though, I think we might be taking this whole squad in a different direction. Best of luck to you, and all, but Sabotage Overload Stasis-that-I-can-fire-through Tali-do-Carnage aaaaaaand we’re done.

That was one of the places where Torment scored a lot of points. Essentially in the game you still had as much power as in others, but it played out a bit differently where you were your own worst enemy and the responsibility of moving forward was left up to your character’s choice.

Giant Fat Slug Guy, Lizard-Head Guy, Sexy Blue Girl, Facemask Girl, Mr Full-of-himself Guy and Hateful Racist Fundamentalist Girl.

Which’s Garrus? I sure hope he ain’t Mr Full-of-himself Guy. Garrus was like my right hand man, I love that dude.

Make some interesting points but feel that if every side conversation lead to a full scale investigation the game would be come very dull. And if the short side conversations were missing the game would be poorer for it. Sometimes it’s fun to just give ridiculous or evil responses to the most emotional dilemas.
Tip – in mass effect bioware have kindly placed the responses in a fixed way so you can get the result you intend.
Top right option = Paragon/Good/Kind
Middle Right = middle ground – will get you through every conversation but not gain you much/any paragon/renegade points
Bottom right = Renegade/evil/aggressive response
Options on the left are to investigate further or use your charm/intimated skills.
If you want to be goodie goodie go for top right and charm more often.

On the flip side – what else is there that comes close? The CRPG is a fairly limited platform. Bioware does a pretty dang good job within the constraints of having your DM be a computer processor, I think.

As much as liked the dialogue wheel, the fact that it was “Up-Right == Paragon” “down-right == Asshole” “Left == XP/Plot” did frustrate me at times. Occasionally, late at night, I’d just hold Up-Right and keep pressing X….

But again, kicks the ass of most everything out there, and is a blast at the same time. So I give them a pass. ;)

Also, the fact that the big beef most people have with Bioware being the lack of impact and the chiaroscuro (ooooh) world suggests that Bioware has done most everything right – when we’re free to complain that the moral choices lack impact on the storyline at large, it suggests that they did a pretty good job on the little bits like gameplay and characterization…

Yeah, yeah. Fanboy. :p

And I’ve yet to play an RPG that said “You are the only hope of the world hurry hurry hurry that enforced it meaningfully. A number of 4x games do. But honestly, I’d be *pissed* if my RPG told me “Hey, stop doing that sidequest, my artificial timer is up.” It’s my RPG. Screw you, hippy.

Which is good.

The game they wanted to make, I suspect.