Comments on: Morality Tales – BioWare Versus The Issues

By: Trebor

Trebor — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:37:15 +0000

“I’m back in Space City One” – can you name any other space city in this game? Or any other city whatsoever in this game for that matter?
No?
Such a great rpg but only one real city in it.

By: BloogaBlooga

BloogaBlooga — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:40:21 +0000

To add to what I just posted, I always thought it was odd that Bioware’s KOTOR had sort-of grey moments in morality. Wasn’t the original intent of the films that it was a war between good and evil? Light and Dark.

By: BloogaBlooga

BloogaBlooga — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:37:21 +0000

Unless you have a really ignorant view of religion or faith or spiritualism, than Ashley was not a fundamentalist. Rather, she was justvocal about her beliefs.

I actually thought her character was the best. She was different than the other rehashes-I mean archetypes- that they had done before.

By: Gregon

Gregon — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:05:10 +0000

Because Ashley believes in God that makes her a fundamentalist? That’s like saying because a guy listens to rock he must love elvis/thebeatles/creed/three days grace.

By: BillHWaters

BillHWaters — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:37:04 +0000

Leave the moral issues to philosophers and politicians. I don’t care if an alien jelly created by an ancient race of interstellar aliens wants to preach his spiritualism in a park. I want relevant plots and no politics/ethics in my games.

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By: Strike

Strike — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:47:54 +0000

Kreia only yells at you when you don’t agree with her views. Most of her influence convo are somewhat on selfish side. I believe it is much harder to gain influence on her when you are in the Light side than you are in the Dark side. Taking to account my experience of doing replays in both sides. It is easiest to gain influence is when you are neutral.
I wish that they included the option to become Jensaaria. It is quite perfect for people who are tired of choice to become a Jedi or a Sith.

By: Klaus

Klaus — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:56:38 +0000

I’ve been playing games for a while, but Kreia is actually the only character who influenced me outside the game. I played through Kotor 2 as neutral the very first time, and light-sided the next. Didn’t have the heart to play dark-sided as I didn’t want Kreia to yell at me. :(

The morality thing was interesting when I got started with BG, but now it’s pretty amusing. I agree very much with Kreia’s philosophy but you really can’t apply these in other games. Refusing to help someone usually results in a “Oh PC! How could you be so heartless!” from a goody-two-shoes npc, and there usually isn’t an answer to explain it other than “Shut up, before I skin you!”.

Jaheira and I almost always come to blows when I refuse to hand over the Harper killing sword. (can’t remember if that’s mod or not though).

I never really liked the Orcs are unrepentant evil argument, as I saw it as a nurture issue, I really do usually hate the Elves. They’re supposedly above all mortal quibbles and yet they express the same bigotry and flaws everyone else does, and they get to make more of those flaws since they live for centuries and NEVER learn from their mistakes.

For the BG2 SOA ending, good thing they intertwined getting your soul back with saving the elven city, because I would have left those assholes to die. Argh, probably the most annoying aspect about the game.

By: Calabi

Calabi — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:24:03 +0000

@animal In Torment your character was hugely powerful. Compared to other RPGs your stats and gains, The Nameless one was for all intents a god, just without the omnipotence.

The irony was that he only cared for himself, as perhaps a real god would. They tease you throughout the game with bigger things, like perhaps you are going to stop the war, or save the lady. In the end those were to big for one man, even an immortal, he could only influence his own fate.

By: Patrick Weekes

Patrick Weekes — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:06:52 +0000

My first with-actual-game playthrough was with Tali and Gare-bear. I was a Sentinel. We didn’t have a lot of raw firepower, but man, we could debuff anything.

I did Liara’s World at about Level 40. The cutscenes were unintentionally hilarious.

Big massive cutscene of armature unfolding.

Me: Oh, no, an armature! Gosh, it’s not like we’ve been fighting those on foot the whole way here just to get more experience than you get from one-shotting them in the Mako! Hey, Tali, could you be a dear and… thanks, awfully.

Watches as AI-Hacked armature zots the geth ghosts while my team lounges against the railing and has a smoke.

Me: Hey, armature, I have to tell you, that’s some great stuff. Listen, though, I think we might be taking this whole squad in a different direction. Best of luck to you, and all, but Sabotage Overload Stasis-that-I-can-fire-through Tali-do-Carnage aaaaaaand we’re done.

By: animal

animal — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:01:23 +0000

I enjoy power fantasies as much as the next guy, but it becomes a bit boring if in every game you are the saviour of either the city, realm or universe.

That was one of the places where Torment scored a lot of points. Essentially in the game you still had as much power as in others, but it played out a bit differently where you were your own worst enemy and the responsibility of moving forward was left up to your character’s choice.

By: The Shed

The Shed — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:59:15 +0000

Giant Fat Slug Guy, Lizard-Head Guy, Sexy Blue Girl, Facemask Girl, Mr Full-of-himself Guy and Hateful Racist Fundamentalist Girl.

Which’s Garrus? I sure hope he ain’t Mr Full-of-himself Guy. Garrus was like my right hand man, I love that dude.