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	<title>Comments on: Cancelled Ensemble Game Was Halo MMO</title>
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		<title>By: Conman17</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/09/23/cancelled-ensemble-game-was-halo-mmo/comment-page-1/#comment-114074</link>
		<dc:creator>Conman17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay. Ensemble deserved to be shut down. What&#039;s wrong with them? First they corrupt Halo with an Age of Empires knock-off, and then they try to force the mythos into WoW? Halo&#039;s going downhill now that Bungie isn&#039;t involved. Halo: Recon is going to be the last real Halo game. Hopefully Bungie&#039;s next IP will take it&#039;s place nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. Ensemble deserved to be shut down. What&#8217;s wrong with them? First they corrupt Halo with an Age of Empires knock-off, and then they try to force the mythos into WoW? Halo&#8217;s going downhill now that Bungie isn&#8217;t involved. Halo: Recon is going to be the last real Halo game. Hopefully Bungie&#8217;s next IP will take it&#8217;s place nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Pattom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pattom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Okami: Yeah, that concept art is way too far out to reasonably called Halo.  Granted, it&#039;s far enough way to actually come back from &quot;that&#039;s not canon!&quot; to &quot;that&#039;s pretty sweet!&quot; to make me disappointed, but as aiusepsi said, I wouldn&#039;t be playing long enough to like it anyway.  Here&#039;s to the hope they explore an idea closer to Planetside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Okami: Yeah, that concept art is way too far out to reasonably called Halo.  Granted, it&#8217;s far enough way to actually come back from &#8220;that&#8217;s not canon!&#8221; to &#8220;that&#8217;s pretty sweet!&#8221; to make me disappointed, but as aiusepsi said, I wouldn&#8217;t be playing long enough to like it anyway.  Here&#8217;s to the hope they explore an idea closer to Planetside.</p>
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		<title>By: Okami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Okami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a bunch of concept art for the game on Kotaku:

http://kotaku.com/5053787/halo-mmo-concepts-what-your-sexy-mistress-chief-could-have-looked-like

I have to say, that this looks almost, but not quite, entirely unlike Halo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a bunch of concept art for the game on Kotaku:</p>
<p><a href="http://kotaku.com/5053787/halo-mmo-concepts-what-your-sexy-mistress-chief-could-have-looked-like" rel="nofollow">http://kotaku.com/5053787/halo-mmo-concepts-what-your-sexy-mistress-chief-could-have-looked-like</a></p>
<p>I have to say, that this looks almost, but not quite, entirely unlike Halo.</p>
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		<title>By: roBurky</title>
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		<dc:creator>roBurky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those interface screenshots have to be a joke.</description>
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		<title>By: The Sombrero Kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sombrero Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a reskined wow for sure</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a Halo MMO has a lot of potential but damn, if those screenshots indicate anything it&#039;s that we were saved here. That looks hideous.

My favorite:
&quot;When the player types in words the text showes up here.&quot;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30784486@N04/2882625802/sizes/o/in/set-72157607452469273/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a Halo MMO has a lot of potential but damn, if those screenshots indicate anything it&#8217;s that we were saved here. That looks hideous.</p>
<p>My favorite:<br />
&#8220;When the player types in words the text showes up here.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30784486@N04/2882625802/sizes/o/in/set-72157607452469273/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/30784486@N04/2882625802/sizes/o/in/set-72157607452469273/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Esha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@terry

Heh, I remember that.  Wasn&#039;t that from the Lord of the Rings text adventure?  That seems like a lifetime ago, now.  But it was a very apt and highly amusing reference, I applaud you on your knowledge of old games and wit.

Sometimes one simply has to highlight these things.

@Halo MMO

I definitely agree with those who&#039;ve said that its success or failure would be based on whether it was basically Planetside or Tabula Rasa.

I don&#039;t really know how to say this without being offensive.  /sigh  So...

Every 360 owner I&#039;ve talked to thus far is a rabid Halo fan, and I&#039;ve ran my own experiments to see the &lt;i&gt;levels&lt;/i&gt; to which this goes.  The PS3 has nothing like this, which is why I avoided the 360 in the first place, but that&#039;s a story for another day.  Really though, I&#039;m talking about &lt;i&gt;fanatical&lt;/i&gt; support here, almost to the point where Halo is a religion.

Try insulting Halo in front of any 360 owner, even one that claims they aren&#039;t a Halo fan, see how far you get.

Was there a point to that?  Yes.  Yes there was.  Bear with me.

The failure of Planetside was hinged on the fact that there was no real marketing to speak of, there was no marketing symbol, no known product name, et cetera.  It was basically just an FPS on a large scale.  I played it, and it was &lt;i&gt;fun&lt;/i&gt;.  But at the end of the day, that&#039;s all it was.  And when people getting bored of it so there were so many less people to shoot at, the game started falling apart.

However, take Planetside and give it a Halo spin and the servers would be &lt;i&gt;filled&lt;/i&gt; with people to shoot.  I&#039;d actually be interested in playing such a thing even if it were Halo, simply because there would always be so many people around to have fun with.  Basically, adding a known product label like Halo to a formula like Planetside &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; have made it work.

And really, it&#039;s a shame that it&#039;ll never happen.

Instead, I&#039;ll just look forward to that Korean thing that&#039;s apparently Planetside rejigged, maybe they&#039;ll get it right.

I admit though, this post was probably more about Planetside than it was about Halo, oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@terry</p>
<p>Heh, I remember that.  Wasn&#8217;t that from the Lord of the Rings text adventure?  That seems like a lifetime ago, now.  But it was a very apt and highly amusing reference, I applaud you on your knowledge of old games and wit.</p>
<p>Sometimes one simply has to highlight these things.</p>
<p>@Halo MMO</p>
<p>I definitely agree with those who&#8217;ve said that its success or failure would be based on whether it was basically Planetside or Tabula Rasa.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really know how to say this without being offensive.  /sigh  So&#8230;</p>
<p>Every 360 owner I&#8217;ve talked to thus far is a rabid Halo fan, and I&#8217;ve ran my own experiments to see the <i>levels</i> to which this goes.  The PS3 has nothing like this, which is why I avoided the 360 in the first place, but that&#8217;s a story for another day.  Really though, I&#8217;m talking about <i>fanatical</i> support here, almost to the point where Halo is a religion.</p>
<p>Try insulting Halo in front of any 360 owner, even one that claims they aren&#8217;t a Halo fan, see how far you get.</p>
<p>Was there a point to that?  Yes.  Yes there was.  Bear with me.</p>
<p>The failure of Planetside was hinged on the fact that there was no real marketing to speak of, there was no marketing symbol, no known product name, et cetera.  It was basically just an FPS on a large scale.  I played it, and it was <i>fun</i>.  But at the end of the day, that&#8217;s all it was.  And when people getting bored of it so there were so many less people to shoot at, the game started falling apart.</p>
<p>However, take Planetside and give it a Halo spin and the servers would be <i>filled</i> with people to shoot.  I&#8217;d actually be interested in playing such a thing even if it were Halo, simply because there would always be so many people around to have fun with.  Basically, adding a known product label like Halo to a formula like Planetside <i>could</i> have made it work.</p>
<p>And really, it&#8217;s a shame that it&#8217;ll never happen.</p>
<p>Instead, I&#8217;ll just look forward to that Korean thing that&#8217;s apparently Planetside rejigged, maybe they&#8217;ll get it right.</p>
<p>I admit though, this post was probably more about Planetside than it was about Halo, oops.</p>
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		<title>By: Harlequin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harlequin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny...all the people thinking that that screenshot is a &quot;mockup&quot;.  IGN has the same one, plus an additional showing a Spartan with twin energy blades.

Too bad...I&#039;d have been somewhat interested in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny&#8230;all the people thinking that that screenshot is a &#8220;mockup&#8221;.  IGN has the same one, plus an additional showing a Spartan with twin energy blades.</p>
<p>Too bad&#8230;I&#8217;d have been somewhat interested in this.</p>
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		<title>By: RichPowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichPowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;played through the entire first and third games, and while it’s hardly worth the 99/100% scores it got&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you answered your question :) Plus Halo fans are stereotyped as frat-boy lugnuts who honestly think Halo is the only FPS game ever made, after Goldeneye of course. Halo&#039;s pretty fun and has excellent multiplayer for a console game...the praise and fanboyism got excessive, though, and that always prompts a backlash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>played through the entire first and third games, and while it’s hardly worth the 99/100% scores it got</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you answered your question :) Plus Halo fans are stereotyped as frat-boy lugnuts who honestly think Halo is the only FPS game ever made, after Goldeneye of course. Halo&#8217;s pretty fun and has excellent multiplayer for a console game&#8230;the praise and fanboyism got excessive, though, and that always prompts a backlash.</p>
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		<title>By: CannedLizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>CannedLizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone answer WHY Halo is hated? I played through the entire first and third games, and while it&#039;s hardly worth the 99/100% scores it got, it&#039;s damn fine, polished series of games with entertaining gun and vehicle play, decent multiplayer and one of my favourite set-pieces in gaming to date (playing co-op in the third game with a friend, riding around in a Hornet, dropping each other off on the various Scarab tanks on the level, taking them out one by one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone answer WHY Halo is hated? I played through the entire first and third games, and while it&#8217;s hardly worth the 99/100% scores it got, it&#8217;s damn fine, polished series of games with entertaining gun and vehicle play, decent multiplayer and one of my favourite set-pieces in gaming to date (playing co-op in the third game with a friend, riding around in a Hornet, dropping each other off on the various Scarab tanks on the level, taking them out one by one).</p>
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		<title>By: NegativeZero</title>
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		<dc:creator>NegativeZero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly they canned it because trying to stretch a Halo skin over the MUD-based MMO framework is never going to produce anything that people would want to play.

I have my suspicions that while this prototype might have been shitcanned, the concept is still alive and well somewhere at MS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly they canned it because trying to stretch a Halo skin over the MUD-based MMO framework is never going to produce anything that people would want to play.</p>
<p>I have my suspicions that while this prototype might have been shitcanned, the concept is still alive and well somewhere at MS.</p>
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		<title>By: IIshin</title>
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		<dc:creator>IIshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what do they think Halo is? Cool?
Cool enough to make them try and sell an mmo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what do they think Halo is? Cool?<br />
Cool enough to make them try and sell an mmo&#8230;</p>
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