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		<title>By: The Unbelievable Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Unbelievable Guy</dc:creator>
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		<description>Notably said after sending his own son off to die in the war.
Oh well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notably said after sending his own son off to die in the war.<br />
Oh well!
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		<title>By: Nihohit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nihohit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG ITS SPELLED SHOGGOTH YOU GUYS SOCK!</description>
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		<title>By: Elwro</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone&#039;s interested, we have an interview about this game:

http://rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=175</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone&#8217;s interested, we have an interview about this game:</p>
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		<title>By: pkt-zer0</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Encounters with the Old Ones will be handled through text adventures with some additional artwork. Not any more visual than a book with a bunch of illustrations, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Encounters with the Old Ones will be handled through text adventures with some additional artwork. Not any more visual than a book with a bunch of illustrations, really.
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		<title>By: Michael America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re all a bunch of horrible webcestuous deviants.
...which is probably why I keep coming back.

I&#039;m looking forward to this game, but I&#039;m still apprehensive. I don&#039;t see any visual medium possibly doing Dread Cthulhu justice. I&#039;d like to see a Lovecraft game that literally &lt;i&gt;shatters your mind&lt;/i&gt;, boiling away your lucidity like blood on a griddle, leaving naught but a burned out husk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re all a bunch of horrible webcestuous deviants.<br />
&#8230;which is probably why I keep coming back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to this game, but I&#8217;m still apprehensive. I don&#8217;t see any visual medium possibly doing Dread Cthulhu justice. I&#8217;d like to see a Lovecraft game that literally <i>shatters your mind</i>, boiling away your lucidity like blood on a griddle, leaving naught but a burned out husk.
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		<title>By: Edgar the Peaceful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edgar the Peaceful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;And one can enjoy Kieron’s writing despite the fact he’s a sex-pest.&lt;/cite&gt;

I enjoy Keiron&#039;s sex-pesting notwithstanding his writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>And one can enjoy Kieron’s writing despite the fact he’s a sex-pest.</cite></p>
<p>I enjoy Keiron&#8217;s sex-pesting notwithstanding his writing.
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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GliderRecon: 

&quot;Your new-caught sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child.&quot;
- The White Man&#039;s Burden

So, yes, patronising, paterneralistic and horribly smug, 
though also an talented writer, as your technique of randomly quoting his work out of context proves, clearly. 

@Nick

If it was just about what he called his cat, then yes,  this would  be  a silly discussion. And no one is condemning eras,  it&#039;s more about Lovecraft being a special case within this own.  

I brought up Kipling percisely because his life and work is a facinating example of how people who would heartly describe themselves as racist ( ie those who discrimate on the grounds of race) could also be, at certain times, a reformer, crusader and sympathetic poet for various groups of colonial  subjects. Kipling loves India, though he thinks English public school boys should be in charge of it, Lovecraft would prefer New York to fall into the sea, that&#039;s the difference.  

Lovecraft, as the Houellebecq piece described, was always a strange, narrow minded soul, who when faced with an actual example of teeming, multi-cultural New York, lasted till  his wife moved away, then freaked  the F@*K out, a process which fed into the brilliantly twisted mental landscapes I&#039;m sure we&#039;ve  all enjoyed wandering through.    

@Malagate: what you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GliderRecon: </p>
<p>&#8220;Your new-caught sullen peoples,<br />
Half devil and half child.&#8221;<br />
- The White Man&#8217;s Burden</p>
<p>So, yes, patronising, paterneralistic and horribly smug,<br />
though also an talented writer, as your technique of randomly quoting his work out of context proves, clearly. </p>
<p>@Nick</p>
<p>If it was just about what he called his cat, then yes,  this would  be  a silly discussion. And no one is condemning eras,  it&#8217;s more about Lovecraft being a special case within this own.  </p>
<p>I brought up Kipling percisely because his life and work is a facinating example of how people who would heartly describe themselves as racist ( ie those who discrimate on the grounds of race) could also be, at certain times, a reformer, crusader and sympathetic poet for various groups of colonial  subjects. Kipling loves India, though he thinks English public school boys should be in charge of it, Lovecraft would prefer New York to fall into the sea, that&#8217;s the difference.  </p>
<p>Lovecraft, as the Houellebecq piece described, was always a strange, narrow minded soul, who when faced with an actual example of teeming, multi-cultural New York, lasted till  his wife moved away, then freaked  the F@*K out, a process which fed into the brilliantly twisted mental landscapes I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ve  all enjoyed wandering through.    </p>
<p>@Malagate: what you said.
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		<title>By: Malagate</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote Maximum Fish, which later posts share the same sentiments:
&quot;I don’t share the worldview of the creators of the overwhelming majority of the books i read, movies i watch, games i play, whatever. Do i have to? Am i only to expose myself to the works of those who agree with me on everything, whom i can assure myself are ‘morally righteous’ by my own standards?&quot;

I don&#039;t think anyone was actually saying to NOT read his works, they were either merely describing the kind of person he was and so how his works came about or they were expressing surprise to learn that little extra something about an author that interests them. Nor do I think that anyone is being &quot;morally superior&quot; and deriding his work, it seems that the moment someone mentions &quot;racism&quot; that the natural assumption is to shun everything about it, but I haven&#039;t seen anyone actually talk about that so it seems to me that the likes of Maximum fish are over-reacting.

No one is saying it was cool, but equally no one was saying it should be condemned.

I find it interesting that you could see some foreshadowing by Lovecraft for the horrors of the internet. Whilst Deep Ones may be motivated by his disgust it also draws upon beastiality and that makes me think of Furries. I understand anti-furryism is quite prevailent, and it is certainly a concept that horrifies me, but perhaps later generations will be more horrified that people were anti-furry at the time? Not that it matters, it still only ever adds more interest to Lovecraft&#039;s works, to help us better understand the fear and motivations. Maybe there is some enlightened future people who can tolerate free love between men, men dressed as animals and the animals themselves, I however will still read lovecraft and shudder not for the terror of the abyss but for the horror of The Great Yiff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Maximum Fish, which later posts share the same sentiments:<br />
&#8220;I don’t share the worldview of the creators of the overwhelming majority of the books i read, movies i watch, games i play, whatever. Do i have to? Am i only to expose myself to the works of those who agree with me on everything, whom i can assure myself are ‘morally righteous’ by my own standards?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone was actually saying to NOT read his works, they were either merely describing the kind of person he was and so how his works came about or they were expressing surprise to learn that little extra something about an author that interests them. Nor do I think that anyone is being &#8220;morally superior&#8221; and deriding his work, it seems that the moment someone mentions &#8220;racism&#8221; that the natural assumption is to shun everything about it, but I haven&#8217;t seen anyone actually talk about that so it seems to me that the likes of Maximum fish are over-reacting.</p>
<p>No one is saying it was cool, but equally no one was saying it should be condemned.</p>
<p>I find it interesting that you could see some foreshadowing by Lovecraft for the horrors of the internet. Whilst Deep Ones may be motivated by his disgust it also draws upon beastiality and that makes me think of Furries. I understand anti-furryism is quite prevailent, and it is certainly a concept that horrifies me, but perhaps later generations will be more horrified that people were anti-furry at the time? Not that it matters, it still only ever adds more interest to Lovecraft&#8217;s works, to help us better understand the fear and motivations. Maybe there is some enlightened future people who can tolerate free love between men, men dressed as animals and the animals themselves, I however will still read lovecraft and shudder not for the terror of the abyss but for the horror of The Great Yiff.
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the first time the work of a man is bigger and better than himself, it won&#039;t be the last time. 

Love the idea of this game, Cthulhu knows we need more videogames based on this.</description>
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<p>Love the idea of this game, Cthulhu knows we need more videogames based on this.
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides, most people usually love their pets and treat them with more affection than other humans, so calling it what it was called can&#039;t be a hate based thing.  I don&#039;t think anyone is trying to say it was cool to do it, but condeming everyone in the (insert era here) as being a vile racist because of language that was in common usage is a bit reactionary.  It&#039;s not condoning it, but understanding its motivations beyond the blacl &amp; white (pun not intended but somewhat apt).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, most people usually love their pets and treat them with more affection than other humans, so calling it what it was called can&#8217;t be a hate based thing.  I don&#8217;t think anyone is trying to say it was cool to do it, but condeming everyone in the (insert era here) as being a vile racist because of language that was in common usage is a bit reactionary.  It&#8217;s not condoning it, but understanding its motivations beyond the blacl &amp; white (pun not intended but somewhat apt).
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		<description>Hey, racists are people too! Just because we don&#039;t invite them to social gatherings doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t read their fiction! :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, racists are people too! Just because we don&#8217;t invite them to social gatherings doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t read their fiction! :p
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		<description>Lovecraft RPG = Want

Iron Tower sound like they have their hearts in the right place when it comes to RPGs. Not bothered how long they take to make them, I enjoy reading about the development and I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll be worth the wait.</description>
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<p>Iron Tower sound like they have their hearts in the right place when it comes to RPGs. Not bothered how long they take to make them, I enjoy reading about the development and I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll be worth the wait.
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