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	<title>Comments on: Kivi&#8217;s Underworld Beta</title>
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		<title>By: bonuswavepilot</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/17/kivis-underworld-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-102910</link>
		<dc:creator>bonuswavepilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryx - at least it washes off easier than RTS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryx &#8211; at least it washes off easier than RTS.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryx</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/17/kivis-underworld-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-102487</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eww, I got isometric on my shoe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eww, I got isometric on my shoe</p>
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		<title>By: Hmm-hmm.</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/17/kivis-underworld-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-102404</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmm-hmm.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Diablo II was particularly involving, then? Oh, for an action click-fest? ;o) 

Guess I&#039;ll have to pass on Kivi, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Diablo II was particularly involving, then? Oh, for an action click-fest? ;o) </p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;ll have to pass on Kivi, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/17/kivis-underworld-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-102374</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No item looting? That&#039;s the main reason I still play D2 and Titans Quest, lol. 

Yes... I&#039;m an item whore, always looking for the next bigger shiny weapon or armor.

Still... maybe I&#039;ll give this a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No item looting? That&#8217;s the main reason I still play D2 and Titans Quest, lol. </p>
<p>Yes&#8230; I&#8217;m an item whore, always looking for the next bigger shiny weapon or armor.</p>
<p>Still&#8230; maybe I&#8217;ll give this a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Arathain</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/17/kivis-underworld-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-102347</link>
		<dc:creator>Arathain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all singleplayer.  It&#039;s a fun little thing too.  Stripped down enough to scratch that Diablo itch without overstaying its welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all singleplayer.  It&#8217;s a fun little thing too.  Stripped down enough to scratch that Diablo itch without overstaying its welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: subedii</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/17/kivis-underworld-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-102343</link>
		<dc:creator>subedii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Danielcardigan:

The problem is, if you want to treat it as &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; a shooter, Shadowgrounds: Survivor somehow manages to look better &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; play better. And that was developed by an indie company

Incidentally, if you haven&#039;t tried Shadowgrounds or Shadowgrounds: Survivor, I suggest you do, they&#039;re very good (both available on Stardock&#039;s Impulse, and on Steam). A couple of months back they added in some extra difficulty modes for us plebs that were complaining it was too easy.

Anyway, let&#039;s end this off topic discussion.

When it says that that&#039;s a beta client to download, does that mean that this is a strictly multiplayer affair? Or can it be played singleplayer as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Danielcardigan:</p>
<p>The problem is, if you want to treat it as <i>just</i> a shooter, Shadowgrounds: Survivor somehow manages to look better <i>and</i> play better. And that was developed by an indie company</p>
<p>Incidentally, if you haven&#8217;t tried Shadowgrounds or Shadowgrounds: Survivor, I suggest you do, they&#8217;re very good (both available on Stardock&#8217;s Impulse, and on Steam). A couple of months back they added in some extra difficulty modes for us plebs that were complaining it was too easy.</p>
<p>Anyway, let&#8217;s end this off topic discussion.</p>
<p>When it says that that&#8217;s a beta client to download, does that mean that this is a strictly multiplayer affair? Or can it be played singleplayer as well?</p>
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		<title>By: danielcardigan</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/17/kivis-underworld-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-102269</link>
		<dc:creator>danielcardigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you go into Space Siege without the expectation that it&#039;s an RPG (even RPG-lite) and just play it as a shooter then it&#039;s plenty of mindless fun. Well, not plenty exactly cos it&#039;s quite short and not much replay value. Worth a budget buy at under a tenner for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go into Space Siege without the expectation that it&#8217;s an RPG (even RPG-lite) and just play it as a shooter then it&#8217;s plenty of mindless fun. Well, not plenty exactly cos it&#8217;s quite short and not much replay value. Worth a budget buy at under a tenner for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximum Fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maximum Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@danielcardigan

I was going to say the same thing about Space Siege.  I enjoyed the demo, but never bought the full game because of the criticisms of &quot;over-simplified&quot;, which seemed reasonable to me given that simplifying an Action RPG is like watering down water, and focusing on combat that involves holding in a mouse button until people die doesn&#039;t seem sustainably enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@danielcardigan</p>
<p>I was going to say the same thing about Space Siege.  I enjoyed the demo, but never bought the full game because of the criticisms of &#8220;over-simplified&#8221;, which seemed reasonable to me given that simplifying an Action RPG is like watering down water, and focusing on combat that involves holding in a mouse button until people die doesn&#8217;t seem sustainably enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: danielcardigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>danielcardigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stripped down until the point where it’s tearing bits of skin off, Kivi focuses completely on the action, with all RPG elements kept as immediate and accessible as possible.&quot;

Space Siege did that and got vilified. I quite liked it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stripped down until the point where it’s tearing bits of skin off, Kivi focuses completely on the action, with all RPG elements kept as immediate and accessible as possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>Space Siege did that and got vilified. I quite liked it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Confidence interval</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confidence interval</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I thought, too. What do you guys do all day? I&#039;m curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I thought, too. What do you guys do all day? I&#8217;m curious.</p>
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		<title>By: eyemessiah</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/17/kivis-underworld-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-102234</link>
		<dc:creator>eyemessiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Work?

I thought you PLAYED GAMES FOR MONEY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Work?</p>
<p>I thought you PLAYED GAMES FOR MONEY!</p>
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