Comments on: Hellgate Banished To MMO Hell

By: Heliocentric

Heliocentric — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:45:31 +0000

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=282069

Hellgate back from the gates of hell.

By: Lim-Dul

Lim-Dul — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:07:34 +0000

Indeed I meant latter. ^^

By: BarkingDog

BarkingDog — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:49:09 +0000

@ Lim-Dul: You mean the latter :P
And, I paid £100 or however much it was to be a sub player for life, imagining that I would love the game and it would go FOREVER, and that I would consequently make a vast saving over my WoW sub. So, obviously, Hellgate’s consequent failure was my fault: I apologise.

By: aldo_14

aldo_14 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:46:35 +0000

(Side note: I was personally flamed by Smart on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic ten years ago. I feel strongly that this should be a Steam Achievement.)

I was also personally flamed by Derek Smart, on a Freespace modding forum. Apparently he is an ‘alpha male’ and ‘pack leader’, and we’re all jealous of him.

On subject – the failure (ciritically) of Hellgate was possibly the most disappointing thing for me last year; the idea behind it was ace.

By: Hmm-hmm

Hmm-hmm — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:40:56 +0000

I actually saw this game in a store which got me to wondering whether I ought to tell the store’s personell they’re selling a game which won’t have all of its’ functions available.

That said, I’ve always been somewhat intrigued by the game. I may even buy it for the single player version.

By: Jason Lefkowitz

Jason Lefkowitz — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:46:35 +0000

Derek Smart isn’t in much of a position to comment on failure of any kind.

Oh, come now. Derek Smart was perfecting “EPIC FAIL” ten years before the rest of the Internet caught on to the meme. He was just ahead of his time!

(Side note: I was personally flamed by Smart on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic ten years ago. I feel strongly that this should be a Steam Achievement.)

By: Harlequin

Harlequin — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:04:58 +0000

I just had a belated thought. Even though I was utterly disappointed with the game, I can’t even use my stinking exclusive dye kit that I got from pre-ordering since it can only be accessed through your online account :/

The whole “color your armor” thing was one of those dumb little things that I thought was a nice touch. To me, little customization options do count for something. Pity, I really liked the way that color scheme looked and would have used it if I ever opted to play SP mode.

By: I don't understand this comment system

I don't understand this comment system — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:30:54 +0000

unclelou:
The reason people didn’t like hellgate wasn’t because it was progressive, it was because it felt incomplete. Flagship took their time selecting the ingredients and doing all the prep work but then served their pie half baked.

Now you could argue that ambitious games often don’t get the polish that ones traveling a more established road get and I would agree. But Flagship essentially caved in to their publishers and delivered a half finished game. Even as the game stands now, after about a years worth a patches, the game still feels like it needs some serious work. The skills and depth simply aren’t there.

That being said, I am sorry to see the servers go and $20 investment go with it. It would be really cool if they put out some software so people could host their own servers, but who am I kidding, they are not going to that.

By: malkav11

malkav11 — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:46:21 +0000

Hellgate was never an MMO. It’s understandable how people could be fooled into thinking it was, with the subscription model and some of the ways the Flagship folks talked about it, but it wasn’t. It’s a Diablo successor with official-server-only multiplayer, a move which was bad to start with and worse now that Flagship’s folded and the inheritors aren’t going to run the servers anymore.

Which is a pity. I think the game as it stands is okay (I was willing to drop $10 on it, and did) but a mere shadow of what it could have been with more time and attention. Something more like what was originally promised. As it is, I think Titan Quest is still the best Diablo we’re going to get until Diablo III rolls along.

By: unclelou

unclelou — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:16:04 +0000

Or maybe I am just totally crazy. I’ve recently bought Sacred 2, which the German press (and gamers) have been creaming themselves over, and I find it spectacularly terrible. ;)

These double-posts are becoming a bad habit of mine.

By: unclelou

unclelou — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:13:48 +0000

Oh, and my rant of the day: Mythos was nice, but really, really totally unspectacular in every imaginable way. That people actually preferred it over Hellgate, which tried (and in may ways succesfully, at least in my opinion) to move the genre in a different direction, away from direct Diablo clones, always irritated me a bit.

Maybe there just isn’t any room for a game like Hellgate. I’ve seen similar criticisms levelled at Too Human. I’ve mostly read complaints that it’s not like Devil May Cry, or not like a “proper FPS” game. It’s as if the change of perspective has made people forget that it’s an action-RPG, and they expected something entirely different.

By: Shadowmancer

Shadowmancer — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:51:31 +0000

I liked this game, never bothered to go online but single player was fine the game was what I wanted and as a single player wow clone without monthly fees to pay the man, its a shame that bugs did let the game down.