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	<title>Comments on: Steam Clouds Are Forecast (Ha Ha!)</title>
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		<title>By: Lemon</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-192703</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with this update I started to hate steam...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with this update I started to hate steam&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: frymaster</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-110202</link>
		<dc:creator>frymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, I just can’t accept the idea of having to be online to play a single player game&quot;

...except you don&#039;t, you know.  You do have to be online to _install_ the game, yes, but something like half-life 2&#039;s probably had most of its own weight in patches anyway, so you&#039;d be needing web access any way.  After the game is installed, and can be played, then you can quite happily take your laptop somewhere with no net connection, turn it on, and play your games.

the question then becomes &quot;is having net access when installing these games a barrier?&quot; and for most people, of course, it isn&#039;t.  If it is for you then fair enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, I just can’t accept the idea of having to be online to play a single player game&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;except you don&#8217;t, you know.  You do have to be online to _install_ the game, yes, but something like half-life 2&#8217;s probably had most of its own weight in patches anyway, so you&#8217;d be needing web access any way.  After the game is installed, and can be played, then you can quite happily take your laptop somewhere with no net connection, turn it on, and play your games.</p>
<p>the question then becomes &#8220;is having net access when installing these games a barrier?&#8221; and for most people, of course, it isn&#8217;t.  If it is for you then fair enough.</p>
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		<title>By: RacerX</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-109578</link>
		<dc:creator>RacerX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I just can&#039;t accept the idea of having to be online to play a single player game.  I don&#039;t accept Steam.  I bought HL2 and used Steam years ago and I just can&#039;t go back to it.

Anyway, this new &quot;cloud&quot; feature sounds awesome but i just don&#039;t like Steam.  I admit that this service is better than draconian DRM, just chalk me up as an Angry Internet Cave Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just can&#8217;t accept the idea of having to be online to play a single player game.  I don&#8217;t accept Steam.  I bought HL2 and used Steam years ago and I just can&#8217;t go back to it.</p>
<p>Anyway, this new &#8220;cloud&#8221; feature sounds awesome but i just don&#8217;t like Steam.  I admit that this service is better than draconian DRM, just chalk me up as an Angry Internet Cave Man.</p>
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		<title>By: RC-1290'Dreadnought'</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-109390</link>
		<dc:creator>RC-1290'Dreadnought'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way Valve works made it impossible for me not to buy Left4Dead. I tried to save my money for GTA4(PC) but I simply couldn&#039;t resist spending it at Steam. DAMN IT, haha.

Nice work, valve!=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way Valve works made it impossible for me not to buy Left4Dead. I tried to save my money for GTA4(PC) but I simply couldn&#8217;t resist spending it at Steam. DAMN IT, haha.</p>
<p>Nice work, valve!=)</p>
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		<title>By: nakke</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-109331</link>
		<dc:creator>nakke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This was a obviuous feature back wen Counter-Strike was popular&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It still is the largest MP FPS, by a quite large margin. (http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/games/ That recent huge dip was because an update that rendered people being unable to join servers until they were restarted (and thus updated), it&#039;ll probably go back up in a week or so (because the site uses a 7 day average))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This was a obviuous feature back wen Counter-Strike was popular</p></blockquote>
<p>It still is the largest MP FPS, by a quite large margin. (<a href="http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/games/" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/games/</a> That recent huge dip was because an update that rendered people being unable to join servers until they were restarted (and thus updated), it&#8217;ll probably go back up in a week or so (because the site uses a 7 day average))</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-109298</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fine with Steam as DRM, its great! however, not removing the TAGES DRM on the Steam version of Stalker: Clear Sky was a big mistake. Now I cannot play my game, as although one DRM works fine (my steam account), TAGES will only let you &quot;activate&quot; the protected game 5 times. Such &quot;activation&quot; can occur over swapping hardware, or formatting your PC. What&#039;s more, neither Valve, the game developer (GSC Games), or TAGES will take ownership of this problem and revoke or replace this awful DRM! So, guess what? now the only way i can play it is to pirate it.

btw anyone else who has sorted this problem pls post xD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fine with Steam as DRM, its great! however, not removing the TAGES DRM on the Steam version of Stalker: Clear Sky was a big mistake. Now I cannot play my game, as although one DRM works fine (my steam account), TAGES will only let you &#8220;activate&#8221; the protected game 5 times. Such &#8220;activation&#8221; can occur over swapping hardware, or formatting your PC. What&#8217;s more, neither Valve, the game developer (GSC Games), or TAGES will take ownership of this problem and revoke or replace this awful DRM! So, guess what? now the only way i can play it is to pirate it.</p>
<p>btw anyone else who has sorted this problem pls post xD</p>
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		<title>By: ru</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-109217</link>
		<dc:creator>ru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>taxman sounds like shill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taxman sounds like shill</p>
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		<title>By: Tei</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-109142</link>
		<dc:creator>Tei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taxman: humm???...  that is new to me. SecuROM install as a driver, that on Windows is the OS level, and use tecniques to be hidden to the OS (That include ofuscated registry keys).

Microsoft tool to detect toolkits, also detect SecuROM has one.

Download the tool:
http://technet.microsoft.com/es-es/sysinternals/bb897445(en-us).aspx
Try it, on my computer it detect securom.

Arrgh..we are talking again about this crap. Is boring, lets talk about something else. Is more interesting how to CREATE NEW THINGS (what cloud is tryiing) than to STOP THINGS (that is what DRM is about).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxman: humm???&#8230;  that is new to me. SecuROM install as a driver, that on Windows is the OS level, and use tecniques to be hidden to the OS (That include ofuscated registry keys).</p>
<p>Microsoft tool to detect toolkits, also detect SecuROM has one.</p>
<p>Download the tool:<br />
<a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/es-es/sysinternals/bb897445(en-us).aspx" rel="nofollow">http://technet.microsoft.com/es-es/sysinternals/bb897445(en-us).aspx</a><br />
Try it, on my computer it detect securom.</p>
<p>Arrgh..we are talking again about this crap. Is boring, lets talk about something else. Is more interesting how to CREATE NEW THINGS (what cloud is tryiing) than to STOP THINGS (that is what DRM is about).</p>
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		<title>By: Taxman</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-109140</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tei - Securom is not a rootkit it has been around a very long time and the charge that it is a rookit is a load of bollocks and been proven wrong on multiple occasions by security experts.

Securom generally offers two flavours of DRM a disc based check which is the oldest one an online product activation component again nether are a rootkit and the whole business got started off in Bioshock by a clueless user who didn&#039;t know how to use analysis software in the first place then started shouting rootkit, rootkit from the rooftops. Of course there are those with an agenda such as pc gamers pirates and anti-drm people who try to spread the false message as much as possible.

No I don&#039;t work for Securom but I strongly dislike people spreading false information about the security of computers its like peter crying wolf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tei &#8211; Securom is not a rootkit it has been around a very long time and the charge that it is a rookit is a load of bollocks and been proven wrong on multiple occasions by security experts.</p>
<p>Securom generally offers two flavours of DRM a disc based check which is the oldest one an online product activation component again nether are a rootkit and the whole business got started off in Bioshock by a clueless user who didn&#8217;t know how to use analysis software in the first place then started shouting rootkit, rootkit from the rooftops. Of course there are those with an agenda such as pc gamers pirates and anti-drm people who try to spread the false message as much as possible.</p>
<p>No I don&#8217;t work for Securom but I strongly dislike people spreading false information about the security of computers its like peter crying wolf.</p>
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		<title>By: fishmitten</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishmitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaanyway... back to Steam Cloud:

Does anyone know if we&#039;ll have control over which settings are exported from each PC? I use my Steam account at work and at home and my two PCs vary quite a bit. It would be nice to be able to share my control, avatar and spray settings, but leave my video settings unchanged if possible.

If this isn&#039;t how it&#039;s going to work, I can see a lot of people having problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaanyway&#8230; back to Steam Cloud:</p>
<p>Does anyone know if we&#8217;ll have control over which settings are exported from each PC? I use my Steam account at work and at home and my two PCs vary quite a bit. It would be nice to be able to share my control, avatar and spray settings, but leave my video settings unchanged if possible.</p>
<p>If this isn&#8217;t how it&#8217;s going to work, I can see a lot of people having problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Tei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest any box with &quot;SecuROM&quot; to include a small warning &quot;This game include malware / rootkits&quot;. 

Steam/stuff... how convenience can be usefull to add features, and the Steam Cloud seems the perfect machine to build this feature into and deliver from all &quot;steam-games&quot;.  I will still play *and buy* no-steam games, but Is nice that steam is becoming soo good platform for gaming on PC&#039;s. And other RPS guy say,  XBox Live invented this years ago... we are late on the party!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest any box with &#8220;SecuROM&#8221; to include a small warning &#8220;This game include malware / rootkits&#8221;. </p>
<p>Steam/stuff&#8230; how convenience can be usefull to add features, and the Steam Cloud seems the perfect machine to build this feature into and deliver from all &#8220;steam-games&#8221;.  I will still play *and buy* no-steam games, but Is nice that steam is becoming soo good platform for gaming on PC&#8217;s. And other RPS guy say,  XBox Live invented this years ago&#8230; we are late on the party!</p>
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		<title>By: pepper</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/04/steam-clouds-are-forecast-ha-ha/comment-page-2/#comment-109119</link>
		<dc:creator>pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love steam, i can use it on any computer at home, and quikly load up HL for some testing at school whilst having a free hour. It doesnt whine about keys, or anything, it just installs and allows me to play the games i have. 

yes, steam didnt start off perfect, but i think it is the best thing out there right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love steam, i can use it on any computer at home, and quikly load up HL for some testing at school whilst having a free hour. It doesnt whine about keys, or anything, it just installs and allows me to play the games i have. </p>
<p>yes, steam didnt start off perfect, but i think it is the best thing out there right now.</p>
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