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	<title>Comments on: PCGA on &#8220;The Piracy Challenge&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: iainl</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-111888</link>
		<dc:creator>iainl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Paul Moloney&quot;&gt;Nintendo DS Gaming Is Dying.

And I a bad person not to be upset by this? It seems to me that the world can live without the likes of Girlie’s Overpriced Fashion Show Game and Nintendogs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;ve got that backwards. &quot;Bloke&quot; DS gaming, of the likes supplied by Bangaio Spirits and Advance Wars, really is on its last legs. Piracy has almost killed it (and PSP gaming, for the most part). Aiming nearly all their games at the &quot;casual girl&quot; crowd, who have so far shown less interest in how to make games fall off the back of an internet, is the result, not the cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Paul Moloney"><p>Nintendo DS Gaming Is Dying.</p>
<p>And I a bad person not to be upset by this? It seems to me that the world can live without the likes of Girlie’s Overpriced Fashion Show Game and Nintendogs.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;ve got that backwards. &#8220;Bloke&#8221; DS gaming, of the likes supplied by Bangaio Spirits and Advance Wars, really is on its last legs. Piracy has almost killed it (and PSP gaming, for the most part). Aiming nearly all their games at the &#8220;casual girl&#8221; crowd, who have so far shown less interest in how to make games fall off the back of an internet, is the result, not the cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Gap Gen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-111497</link>
		<dc:creator>Gap Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANALOGY DOWN! REPEAT, WE HAVE AN ANALOGY DOWN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANALOGY DOWN! REPEAT, WE HAVE AN ANALOGY DOWN!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobsy</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-111488</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No-one has shares in Melton Mowbray pork pies. At least, not without careful vetting. They&#039;ve taken legal action over the use of the town&#039;s name to protect their goddamn identity. As a native, the local obsession with chunky meat-and-jelly pie products is frankly embarassing.

And the muslim/jewish community in Melton is less than tiny. They&#039;re probably bothered by the pie obsession. I know I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No-one has shares in Melton Mowbray pork pies. At least, not without careful vetting. They&#8217;ve taken legal action over the use of the town&#8217;s name to protect their goddamn identity. As a native, the local obsession with chunky meat-and-jelly pie products is frankly embarassing.</p>
<p>And the muslim/jewish community in Melton is less than tiny. They&#8217;re probably bothered by the pie obsession. I know I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Gap Gen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-111361</link>
		<dc:creator>Gap Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like the Muslim Council being half Jewish with most of them having shares in Melton Mobray pies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like the Muslim Council being half Jewish with most of them having shares in Melton Mobray pies?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Moloney</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-111348</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Moloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Those figures are for the UK only, not worldwide. I’m curious to know what the percentages were like in other markets.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Since console penetration in the UK is higher than average, hopefully the PC percentage there is low compared to elsewhere.

P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those figures are for the UK only, not worldwide. I’m curious to know what the percentages were like in other markets.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since console penetration in the UK is higher than average, hopefully the PC percentage there is low compared to elsewhere.</p>
<p>P.</p>
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		<title>By: redrain85</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-111337</link>
		<dc:creator>redrain85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul Moloney:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Just to note that that recent sales of Fallout 3 are broken down as 55% on XBox 360, 28% on PS3, and 17% on the PC.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Those figures are for the UK only, not worldwide.  I&#039;m curious to know what the percentages were like in other markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul Moloney:</p>
<blockquote><p>Just to note that that recent sales of Fallout 3 are broken down as 55% on XBox 360, 28% on PS3, and 17% on the PC.</p></blockquote>
<p>Those figures are for the UK only, not worldwide.  I&#8217;m curious to know what the percentages were like in other markets.</p>
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		<title>By: spd from Russia</title>
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		<dc:creator>spd from Russia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Halo had been released on the PC first, how well would it have done?

not very well at all.  cause Halo is mostly popular among USA kids and PC games dont sell in USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Halo had been released on the PC first, how well would it have done?</p>
<p>not very well at all.  cause Halo is mostly popular among USA kids and PC games dont sell in USA</p>
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		<title>By: Ravenger</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-111325</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always think it&#039;s ironic that Intel are part of the PCGA.

Nearly every bog-standard PC bought from a high-street retailer these days would be capable of running the latest games - they have enough processor power, ram and HD space - if it weren&#039;t for Intel cornering the market with their poor OEM graphics chips.

That&#039;s a huge section of the PC gaming market locked out, because the onboard graphics are so crippled they can&#039;t even run 5 year old games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always think it&#8217;s ironic that Intel are part of the PCGA.</p>
<p>Nearly every bog-standard PC bought from a high-street retailer these days would be capable of running the latest games &#8211; they have enough processor power, ram and HD space &#8211; if it weren&#8217;t for Intel cornering the market with their poor OEM graphics chips.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a huge section of the PC gaming market locked out, because the onboard graphics are so crippled they can&#8217;t even run 5 year old games.</p>
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		<title>By: Erlam</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-111318</link>
		<dc:creator>Erlam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, everytime I hear that &#039;piracy is killing PC gaming,&#039; I look over at my friend, who has about a dozen warez&#039;d games on his DS, which he swaps out with other games once he&#039;s played them. His reasoning? &quot;It&#039;s easy, and I can&#039;t afford to buy a 30 dollar game that I&#039;ll beat in three hours.&quot;

Then you have someone else I know, with a cracked 360/PS3 so he can play games from overseas, stating &quot;Why the hell would I not do this? There&#039;s a whole wealth of games that I&#039;m apparently &#039;not allowed&#039; to play here, with no real reason as to why.&#039;

So, personally, I think piracy is more noted on the PC because it&#039;s &#039;easier,&#039; and frankly, because PC gamers on average are more demanding, more &#039;tech savvy,&#039; and are less willing to buy mediocre things. 

If Halo had been released on the PC first, how well would it have done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, everytime I hear that &#8216;piracy is killing PC gaming,&#8217; I look over at my friend, who has about a dozen warez&#8217;d games on his DS, which he swaps out with other games once he&#8217;s played them. His reasoning? &#8220;It&#8217;s easy, and I can&#8217;t afford to buy a 30 dollar game that I&#8217;ll beat in three hours.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you have someone else I know, with a cracked 360/PS3 so he can play games from overseas, stating &#8220;Why the hell would I not do this? There&#8217;s a whole wealth of games that I&#8217;m apparently &#8216;not allowed&#8217; to play here, with no real reason as to why.&#8217;</p>
<p>So, personally, I think piracy is more noted on the PC because it&#8217;s &#8216;easier,&#8217; and frankly, because PC gamers on average are more demanding, more &#8216;tech savvy,&#8217; and are less willing to buy mediocre things. </p>
<p>If Halo had been released on the PC first, how well would it have done?</p>
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		<title>By: rocketman71</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/pcga-on-the-piracy-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-111313</link>
		<dc:creator>rocketman71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?. Microsoft?. Intel?. Epic?.

Are your sure we are not speaking about the PC Gaming Killing Association?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?. Microsoft?. Intel?. Epic?.</p>
<p>Are your sure we are not speaking about the PC Gaming Killing Association?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are people who buy stupidly expensive computers and then don&#039;t play games on them. You&#039;ve forgotten the category of person who has more money than sense.

My housemate (who, I would like to point out, is a &lt;i&gt;student&lt;/i&gt;...) has bought a £2000 laptop. The most taxing thing he has played so far is Spore.

If the hardware makers can survive on just this kind of person is debatable, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are people who buy stupidly expensive computers and then don&#8217;t play games on them. You&#8217;ve forgotten the category of person who has more money than sense.</p>
<p>My housemate (who, I would like to point out, is a <i>student</i>&#8230;) has bought a £2000 laptop. The most taxing thing he has played so far is Spore.</p>
<p>If the hardware makers can survive on just this kind of person is debatable, though.</p>
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		<title>By: MeestaNob!</title>
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		<dc:creator>MeestaNob!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PCGA members include &#039;Epic &quot;viva la PC games! - what? No, not &lt;i&gt;our games&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; games&quot; Games&#039; and Microsoft who are up to about business model 43 or whatever of trying to foist Live(!) upon us, the first 42 being miserable failures.

This is like the anti council council being funded solely by the tobacco lobby. GTFO of our platform, you&#039;re only hurting it by being here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PCGA members include &#8216;Epic &#8220;viva la PC games! &#8211; what? No, not <i>our games</i>, <i>your</i> games&#8221; Games&#8217; and Microsoft who are up to about business model 43 or whatever of trying to foist Live(!) upon us, the first 42 being miserable failures.</p>
<p>This is like the anti council council being funded solely by the tobacco lobby. GTFO of our platform, you&#8217;re only hurting it by being here.</p>
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