LONG LIVE THE NEW FLESH!!

The reason snuff is reviled is that people are killed to make it. You know that classic disclaimer “No animals were harmed during the making of this film”? That’s because hurting or killing living creatures for entertainment is a bad, bad thing to do.

On the other hand, throwing a bunch of fake blood around and stabbing each other with retractable plastic knives while the camera’s rolling hurts nobody – it’s just harmless fun. Whether society as a whole benefits or suffers from that is up for debate, but it’s not a discussion I’m particularly interested in participating in right now – I just want to make sure you stop calling it snuff, because snuff is illegal and slasher films are not :)

I dont seek a “mythical” version of society where snuff doesn’t exist, because I know it exists. I merely seek a society where the spreading of snuff as a part of mainstream culture doesnt exist.

Is this too much to ask? I think not.

(Also, if expressing ones opinions in a diplomatic and reasonable way is equal to trolling, then George Orwell might just have been on to something.)

You should play Vampire: Bloodlines! Then you would know this :P

But do the cinemas or network show snuff?

Ummm, isn’t that pretty much what horror movies like Saw or Hostel are?

Let me tell you a story. Around 60 years ago, a european country witnessed the rise of one man who would lead a battered nation into a war that killed over 62 million, wounded innumerable and reshaped the world, for better and for worse. The key to his success was that no one around him stood up to him, that no one defied him, that no one dared say “Enough!” before it was too late.

I don’t see what the relevance is here. The key to the success of any dictator is not the absence of opposition (there most certainly was to Hitler anyways), but the factors which a) limit effectiveness of opposition and b) gave said dictator enough support to assume power (normally both are connected).

Of course, I’m not sure what you’re categorising ’snuff’ as here. But if you’re going to bring out comparisons with hitler (or Stalin, or Mussolini, etc), surely you should explain what the equivalent effects to, say, economic collapse, anti-communist fire, SS repression or the Reichstag fire would be?

P.S. you’re definitely a reactionary if you believe [exhibit A of which you disapprove but is generally popular] is a menace to society, and want to turn back to some (possibly mythical) version of society where [exhibit A] didn’t exist.

So where does snuff (cf. actual, real murder for entertainment), the rise of Nazi power and the decline and fall of civilisation come into it? I must be missing something… or Dreamhacker is trolling in a peculiar way.

P.S. you’re definitely a reactionary if you believe is a menace to society, and want to turn back to some (possibly mythical) version of society where didn’t exist.

FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuff_film