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		<dc:creator>Penis enlargement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sarajlija</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarajlija</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, GTA4 works fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, GTA4 works fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Shnyker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shnyker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heinous commenting jerks, took me a minute and an arf scrolling through all that, who knows what would happen had I wanted to read it! H&#039;anyways I got a kick out of the Epic ordeal, being a console owning caveman as well as an intelligent pc gamer (I&#039;m the missing link, yeah) Epic has not only left the smart girl they have grown fat and taken up poker and smoking, and gaining money from neither.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heinous commenting jerks, took me a minute and an arf scrolling through all that, who knows what would happen had I wanted to read it! H&#8217;anyways I got a kick out of the Epic ordeal, being a console owning caveman as well as an intelligent pc gamer (I&#8217;m the missing link, yeah) Epic has not only left the smart girl they have grown fat and taken up poker and smoking, and gaining money from neither.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, atmosphere is important in BS but not in D3... Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, atmosphere is important in BS but not in D3&#8230; Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Internet Hobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Internet Hobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Celebration that a third Fallout was happening at all was in incredibly short supply.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe because it wasn&#039;t, and maybe because now it never will?

Instead of that we got a mediocre game with flashes of both retardation and gaming quite goodness. After years of incredibly disheartening information given to the press the angry people were expecting simply a horrible game, so their expectations were ultimately exceded upon release, thus reducing the hate.

It&#039;s still postapoc Oblivion TC with guns, hamfisted fallout references (seriously, they&#039;re so forced and out of place that the game would&#039;ve been better without them), some skillchecks and enough mutilated bodies to call it goreporn though, so extreme lowering of expectations was pretty much the only way for it to not dissapoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Celebration that a third Fallout was happening at all was in incredibly short supply.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe because it wasn&#8217;t, and maybe because now it never will?</p>
<p>Instead of that we got a mediocre game with flashes of both retardation and gaming quite goodness. After years of incredibly disheartening information given to the press the angry people were expecting simply a horrible game, so their expectations were ultimately exceded upon release, thus reducing the hate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still postapoc Oblivion TC with guns, hamfisted fallout references (seriously, they&#8217;re so forced and out of place that the game would&#8217;ve been better without them), some skillchecks and enough mutilated bodies to call it goreporn though, so extreme lowering of expectations was pretty much the only way for it to not dissapoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Amake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I downloaded World of Goo from a torrent in about 10 minutes a couple of days after it was released, so I&#039;ll say there&#039;s some piracy going on. You know, for the record.

And here&#039;s a question: I tried it out, and found it didn&#039;t do anything for me, so I deleted it. Do you think that makes me a good guy? Or should I repent by purchasing this thing I don&#039;t want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I downloaded World of Goo from a torrent in about 10 minutes a couple of days after it was released, so I&#8217;ll say there&#8217;s some piracy going on. You know, for the record.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a question: I tried it out, and found it didn&#8217;t do anything for me, so I deleted it. Do you think that makes me a good guy? Or should I repent by purchasing this thing I don&#8217;t want?</p>
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		<title>By: Larington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jalf: Being an AIM is all in the wording. For instance, responses that said something along the lines of &quot;we&#039;d like more reliable data please&quot; were fine whilst responses like &quot;I&#039;m ignoring that because its wrong, end of conversation.&quot; weren&#039;t worth the time wasted reading them (imho).
Sadly, quite a few responses fell into the latter group, demonstrating just how afraid PC gamers are to admit that maybe, just maybe, we might have a genuine problem on our hands. Maybe its denial, maybe it isn&#039;t, regardless we should do everything in our power to ask for increasingly reliable data, whilst steering clear of the oft travelled path of - If it doesn&#039;t fit my world view, its not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jalf: Being an AIM is all in the wording. For instance, responses that said something along the lines of &#8220;we&#8217;d like more reliable data please&#8221; were fine whilst responses like &#8220;I&#8217;m ignoring that because its wrong, end of conversation.&#8221; weren&#8217;t worth the time wasted reading them (imho).<br />
Sadly, quite a few responses fell into the latter group, demonstrating just how afraid PC gamers are to admit that maybe, just maybe, we might have a genuine problem on our hands. Maybe its denial, maybe it isn&#8217;t, regardless we should do everything in our power to ask for increasingly reliable data, whilst steering clear of the oft travelled path of &#8211; If it doesn&#8217;t fit my world view, its not true.</p>
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		<title>By: jalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As I said at the time, the distasteful thing about the argument was how hard people were debating over what was effectively whether there were five pints of blood by the corpse, or only four and a half. Hell - maybe there is only half a pint. Blood spreads around a lot, you know…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
At the risk of being branded an AIM, what &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; found worth debating there was not whether it was 4.5 or 5 pints, but simply &quot;do we *know* how many pints it is? Can we find out?&quot;
The question wasn&#039;t +-0.5 pints, it was pretty much +- infinity. The numbers *could* be  wrong by any margin, because they failed to take into account some pretty obvious factors. There could have been a total of 0.001 pint, or there could even have been 20 pints. No one knew, because they hadn&#039;t measured it (yet). All we had was a guess based on incomplete data. And I fail to see why it is then wrong to point out this missing data and say that it invalidates your conclusions. It does. You can&#039;t conclude anything if you don&#039;t have data to back it up.

The argument was simply &quot;Is it ok to claim that there were five pints of blood by the corpse &lt;em&gt;when we haven&#039;t actually looked at the blood by the corpse&lt;/em&gt;?&quot;.

And I think it&#039;s a bit sad to see that anyone who questioned the initial 90% figure are now being branded as  &quot;a member of the piracy-is-a-victimless-crime brigade&quot;. 

It was never a question of 90% vs 82%. It was a question of &quot;a basically random guess&quot; vs 82%. I think the former is useless, while the latter is very interesting, and actually sheds some light on just how bad piracy is on PC.
I don&#039;t like piracy any more than you do, which is why I thought it was worthwhile to try to uncover the *real* number.

Don&#039;t you think a 82% piracy rate based on real data is a lot scarier than a 90% rate based on made up guesswork? I do. In the same way that knowing that it&#039;s a bit more helpful to perform the forensic analysis and find out that the guy actually died from blood loss, rather than merely seeing that &quot;there&#039;s something red nearby&quot;, and then concluding that &quot;he must have been stabbed through the heart with a kitchen knife at least 6 inches long by a tall dark person with sunglasses who smoked a cheap brand of cigarettes and lisped.

And it&#039;s a sad day when &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; can get someone branded as &quot;a member of the piracy-is-a-victimless-crime brigade&quot;. Does that make me an AIM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As I said at the time, the distasteful thing about the argument was how hard people were debating over what was effectively whether there were five pints of blood by the corpse, or only four and a half. Hell &#8211; maybe there is only half a pint. Blood spreads around a lot, you know…</p></blockquote>
<p>At the risk of being branded an AIM, what <em>I</em> found worth debating there was not whether it was 4.5 or 5 pints, but simply &#8220;do we *know* how many pints it is? Can we find out?&#8221;<br />
The question wasn&#8217;t +-0.5 pints, it was pretty much +- infinity. The numbers *could* be  wrong by any margin, because they failed to take into account some pretty obvious factors. There could have been a total of 0.001 pint, or there could even have been 20 pints. No one knew, because they hadn&#8217;t measured it (yet). All we had was a guess based on incomplete data. And I fail to see why it is then wrong to point out this missing data and say that it invalidates your conclusions. It does. You can&#8217;t conclude anything if you don&#8217;t have data to back it up.</p>
<p>The argument was simply &#8220;Is it ok to claim that there were five pints of blood by the corpse <em>when we haven&#8217;t actually looked at the blood by the corpse</em>?&#8221;.</p>
<p>And I think it&#8217;s a bit sad to see that anyone who questioned the initial 90% figure are now being branded as  &#8220;a member of the piracy-is-a-victimless-crime brigade&#8221;. </p>
<p>It was never a question of 90% vs 82%. It was a question of &#8220;a basically random guess&#8221; vs 82%. I think the former is useless, while the latter is very interesting, and actually sheds some light on just how bad piracy is on PC.<br />
I don&#8217;t like piracy any more than you do, which is why I thought it was worthwhile to try to uncover the *real* number.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think a 82% piracy rate based on real data is a lot scarier than a 90% rate based on made up guesswork? I do. In the same way that knowing that it&#8217;s a bit more helpful to perform the forensic analysis and find out that the guy actually died from blood loss, rather than merely seeing that &#8220;there&#8217;s something red nearby&#8221;, and then concluding that &#8220;he must have been stabbed through the heart with a kitchen knife at least 6 inches long by a tall dark person with sunglasses who smoked a cheap brand of cigarettes and lisped.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s a sad day when <em>this</em> can get someone branded as &#8220;a member of the piracy-is-a-victimless-crime brigade&#8221;. Does that make me an AIM?</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this is awkward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is awkward.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil the Skill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil the Skill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoey&#039;s the PC. Lara&#039;s the 360. 

I&#039;ll take Zoey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoey&#8217;s the PC. Lara&#8217;s the 360. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take Zoey.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychopomp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychopomp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you going on about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you going on about?</p>
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		<title>By: dammskog</title>
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		<dc:creator>dammskog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valve should be on nr 1.
7,554 Members in antisvalvetaxscam group since dec 18th
please redo this article
the hate keeps growing as valve keeps silent</description>
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7,554 Members in antisvalvetaxscam group since dec 18th<br />
please redo this article<br />
the hate keeps growing as valve keeps silent</p>
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