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By: Lilliput King

Lilliput King — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:35:17 +0000

Anonymous Coward said:
And a lot of the tiny improvements Bioware has picked up (such as morality) can all be traced back to their partnership with Obsidian. I’ll always see Bioware as a force of entropy, like some instance of anti-originality. And yet they’ll always be popular, it boggles the mind. :/

Morality scales are as old as the hills in RPG terms (Karma, Reputation, whatever). I haven’t really felt Obsidian have done it better, or that it originated from them.

That said, I agree with you in general. Bioware games are generally pretty much linear, and players only really have any impact when deciding an ending. Even then it’s usually a tiresome good/evil black/white sort of situation, as in KoTOR. Obsidian are slightly better in that regard, but not much. Like you said, where Obsidian really shine is with character development, NWN 2 being a prime example. The party was much more believable than in early Bioware because there was actually room for the player to influence them significantly.

That said, to say Bioware copied it (though copy it they did) for Dragon Age with no success is snobbery, as is saying that characters sans interaction are less than said. It’s perfectly possible to develop a character linearly (Valygar, Sephiroth, pretty much any character from films or books) though I agree that such an approach fails to take advantage of our medium. In Dragon Age, too, the relationship system is used with some success, turning the originally one dimensional characters into something slightly more interesting by the end with the additional dialogue and plot choices available if you build up a good enough rapport (to keep it spoiler free, I’ll just mention Alistair).

Both Bioware and Obsidian have a pretty long way to go with that system before it realises its potential, but I’d say from the latest releases of both they’re equally capable of taking a reasonable crack at it.

By: Psychopomp

Psychopomp — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:34:51 +0000

Accidentally clicked on a (now deleted) spampost on the sidebar, and replied to a post without realizing this was a year old.

By: Wulf

Wulf — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:57:01 +0000

Which is a shame, since any source that gave it the time found how brilliant it was. I remember a couple of sources saying that Mask of the Betrayer was the only RPG to have a story that could match Planescape: Torment’s.

A standalone version would help.

By: Wulf

Wulf — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:55:47 +0000

Oh, nevermind. It’s not there. >.<

I figured that since they had Alpha Protocol and Dragon Age there, they would've had NWN 2. My bad. Blast it all.

Steam, stock it all ready!

By: Wulf

Wulf — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:53:57 +0000

That stinks.

Since you’re interested, I’d even buy it for you on Steam if that would let you play it, but I don’t know if Steam carries the same DRM. Offer stands if it doesn’t.

By: Wulf

Wulf — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:52:40 +0000

You’d have to ask Psychopomp to be sure, but I have a feeling that it has something to do with the ‘Visit an Old Article’ feature.

I can only guess that speaking on old topics is encouraged, lest the feature wouldn’t exist.

By: pkt-zer0

pkt-zer0 — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:05:16 +0000

So, uhh… why was this one year old topic/newspost resurrected, exactly?

By: Tei

Tei — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:03:22 +0000

“Error: Neverwinter Nights 2 Gold is Country restricted on your IP.”

Theres not legal way to pay for the game on my territory, so I am forced to download a warez version.

Atari and Direct2Drive don’t seems to want my money.