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Dangerous High School Girls In Trouble In Trouble

Posted by Kieron Gillen on February 18th, 2009 at 9:45 am.

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Well, EXACTLY

Well, this isn’t a micro-controversy I was expecting to wake up to. A previous-RPS fave and Gametunnel’s 2008 Innovation award winner has been pulled from Big Fish Games’ portal after climbing its charts due to – gasp! – salacious content. Cue casual fans getting distinctly less casual. The fairly-hefty eight-page comments thread has the full story, but the (minorly spoilery) details can be found beneath the cut…

The initial responses bounces back and forth between those who can’t believe the game’s been “censored” and those are glad that it was, because it promotes bullying. Which others note, it really didn’t. Eventually, bfgAegean, a Big Fish representative elaborates on the reason for withdrawal…

“However, after extensive testing of the game, there was content in the game that we deemed unacceptable for our family oriented standards here at Big Fish Games. We are very sorry that some of you who wanted to play it will not be able to, and we apologize for the inconvenience.”

It was removed due to some strong sexual content towards the end of the game. We would ask that if you have not played the game to its end, that you trust our judgment and reasoning in our decision to pull it from the site.

Which of course just leaves everyone wondering what the content could be. Ewonka muses…

The story does turn quite dark near the end, but the only bloodiness happens when you prevent an assault on one of your girls by shooting the assailant. The event is described in two short paragraphs. It is not illustrated. It is a striking event that reminds one that women (and men) are not safe, unless they are prepared to defend themselves and others. It’s a message I would want to teach my older children, to respect the real troubles in the world, to prepare for but not fear them. That’s how I felt when my queen “kissed her smoking gun”.

Or maybe they didn’t like the scene with two women who claimed they were playing ‘Parcheesi’.

Or maybe they didn’t like the bondage scene which is utterly ridiculous, like something from a Mork and Mindy show. It’s not even Seinfeld offensive.

Did I miss something? There are quite a lot of endings to the game. Anyone find something more potentially offending than those?

And then it goes back and forth for a bit. Here’s Rose247 with an anti-DHSGIT position…

Wow, did this just happen today? If the game got darker towards the end I understand, I could see little bits through my trial version of it that sort of just made me think “Why?” Games, movies, and tv always get ruined with gutter type stuff in my opinion. I did not notice any women in the credits of who worked on this game, so maybe that’s why the game went dark. If another version of this came out without some of the issues this game seemed to have. I would certainly play it, give me a game set in the 1920s please without the sleaze!

(Then other people make it clear that women were actually involved)

And here’s a pro-DHSGIT one from DonnyDJ…

I am a teacher and I have never played this game before. Regardless of what content is in the game, the decision to remove the game on the basis of offensive content is ridiculous. If I looked really hard, I am sure I could find things that offend me in several casual games, but I won’t; I have more constructive things to do. I also don’t like the fact that Bigfish refers itself as a ‘family site’. What are they trying to say? Are they trying to impose ‘family values’ on us? Bigfish…please do not go right wing, ignorant, and close minded on me…

Please do not become the Anita Bryant or Ann Coulter of casual games.

Thankfully, the debate clarifies when Picman (aka Paul Thelan, Big Fish big fish)…

To clarify, we are not censoring content, it was a judgment call on what is appropriate or not for the BFG brand and it was a scene that was not spotted by our testers prior to release and not even in the gray area of acceptable.

To be transparent with you all, the scene that was brought to our executives’ attention was a branch in the story that resulted in the implied violent rape of a woman in graphic detail. So this is not about “family friendly” or “rated G” this is a simple judgment call on what we want the BFG brand to represent and that type of content definitely was not it.

Blimey.

At which point, MousechiefCo – aka Keith Nemitz, the game’s designer – enters, noting that this really isn’t explicit at all…

“(person’s name) overlooks her unconscious form, trousers dropped to his ankles. Nail marks and bites on his arms seep red.”

That was the ‘graphical detail’ of an attempted rape. No rape actually occurs in the game. This incident is clearly described later in the game as an attempt that was foiled by the protagonist girls. In this scene they save one of their friends by shooting the attacker.

And later…

We fully support our game as a fine entertainment for TEEN audiences and older. Our website labels each game with a rating icon. We also abide by Big Fish’s decision to withdraw the game from their site.

However, picman, who appears to be a representative of BFG, made a false statement, and we felt obligated to clear it up. Again, no rape occurs in the game, and there is no explicit sex of any kind. The event picman mentioned is not on a branch in the story. Everyone who plays will eventually encounter it, as it is a plot element critical for the ending of the game. Yes, it is emotionally intense, but no more so than a similar event in the movie ‘The Journey of Natty Gann’ from Walt Disney pictures.

So there you go. It’s the micro-hot-coffee. While no longer on Big Fish, for those intrigued by the events, you can still get the demo – and unlock the full version – from Mousechief’s site.

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  1. Somedude says:

    This response is hilarious:

    ” I would certainly play it, give me a game set in the 1920s please without the sleaze!”

    Somebody doesn’t understand what the 1920s were like.

  2. Bobsy says:

    I think chaotic neutral is a good way to describe the lib dems.

  3. Dorian Cornelius Jasper says:

    @The_B: That would imply a more concentrated controversy. One with all the essential oils intact, and might go good with a bit of lemon or brandy.

  4. BooleanBob says:

    Lib dems – Lawful Good, ranger
    New Labour – Lawful Neutral, illusionist
    Old Labour – Chaotic Good, thief
    Old Conservatives – Lawful Neutral, cleric (Amaunator/Helm)
    Thatcherite Conservatives – Lawful Evil, thief
    New Conservatives – Lawful Neutral, conjurer (re: policy)
    Green Party – True Neutral, druid
    Monster Raving Looney Party – Chaotic Neutral, bard
    BNP – Neutral Evil, cleric (Bhaal)

    adjust in accordance to personal prejudice. TBH I think the scale is ill-suited to political views/parties, but geekiness demands we try to apply it to every spectrum out there.

  5. Capital-T-Tim says:

    I’ve seen several comments to the effect that the fallout over this mini-scandal will likely result in more press and exposure for the creator of the game, and therefore more people buying it directly from him. The audience for these games does not primarily consist of people who keep up to date on gaming news; most of them will never hear this story, and for them the game will never exist.

    I worked in the casual downloadable space for a few years. When a casual downloadable title loses visibility on (or is pulled from) a major portal like BigFish, it really sucks for sales. I could be wrong, but I imagine this will hurt the game quite a bit.

  6. MetalCircus says:

    “Hajimete no Paso Kon” at the start of this thread HAS to be a troll. Rules may be rules, but some rules are bullshit. I shudder to think if everyone took your attitude out into the real world with them.

  7. Radiant says:

    Don’t blame America for the worlds moral issues.
    Have you seen their porn?
    It’s incredible.

  8. Radiant says:

    I saw this one movie called Strap Attack.
    It had these women with strap ons attacking dudes.
    Pretty much exactly what it said on the box.

  9. matte_k says:

    Strikes me that Mousechief might benefit from not being distributed by BigFish, now how about a Steam deal for maximum coverage?

  10. Trislan says:

    I just looked on amazon.com’s casual game service, and DHSGIT is available there for $9.99.

  11. sinister agent says:

    Don’t blame America for the worlds moral issues.
    Have you seen their porn?
    It’s incredible.

    It is pretty terrible, I agree.

  12. Keith Nemitz says:

    matte_k

    Just remember, you said, “Steam”. I didn’t, yet. ;-)

  13. Lollerskater says:

    I was about to post the same as James. And 10% off if you get it before March 2nd.

  14. Kadayi says:

    Bought.

    I had good fun with the demo, and it being on Steam is the clincher for me.

  15. Heliocentric says:

    I don’t understand. To me a game is only more interesting on steam over other digital methods because of inherent patching for multiplayer games. (i love company of heroes but patching it is bullshit) and that the match making may potentially be better.

    Other than those 2 factors and the steam sales i’d never choose steam over impulse, gog or even the newly app free gamers gate. As games from all 3 services work without bloatware that steam becomes when you keep a large number of titles ready to play.

    But if its a multiplayer game? Steam away! I cannot be bothered restarting a game 6 times to patch it properly with 3gb of content after a fresh retail install. But i guess impulse has the patching covered in a less automated fashion.

  16. harvb says:

    I think I might get this from Steam, but I want to know if the game has been edited in any way. Does anyone know? Is this a case of one site pulling it and no-one else editing it? I mean if I’m going to get it, I might as well get unedited in the form the creators intended, right?

  17. Kast says:

    Mousechief has explicitly said they wouldn’t do an edited version, so I’m certain that the game on steam is DHSGIT as it was intended.

  18. harvb says:

    Great, cheers, I think I’ll grab it.

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