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		<title>By: Untruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Untruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 08:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Precision Pro was my prized peripheral for a long time. I remember the iffy dead-zone that I would spend hours calibrating so even a slight twitch could change my movement in Microsoft Flight Simulator 98, which for some reason was a tedious obsession. I always wanted the FF version but could never warrant the cost. But oh, did I want one.

Perhaps more notable was the Sidewinder gamepad:
http://www.techfuels.com/attachments/gaming-accessories/7601d1225861950-microsoft-sidewinder-game-controller-microsoft-sidewinder-game-controller.jpg

I loved this gamepad. Loved it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Precision Pro was my prized peripheral for a long time. I remember the iffy dead-zone that I would spend hours calibrating so even a slight twitch could change my movement in Microsoft Flight Simulator 98, which for some reason was a tedious obsession. I always wanted the FF version but could never warrant the cost. But oh, did I want one.</p>
<p>Perhaps more notable was the Sidewinder gamepad:<br />
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<p>I loved this gamepad. Loved it.
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		<title>By: NooklearToaster</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 03:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Favorite joystick is EASILY the one that came in the special bundle of ace combat for the 360. I can&#039;t imagine a more perfect stick and throttle combo, it just fits so smoothly. I&#039;m surprised they didn&#039;t sell more of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favorite joystick is EASILY the one that came in the special bundle of ace combat for the 360. I can&#8217;t imagine a more perfect stick and throttle combo, it just fits so smoothly. I&#8217;m surprised they didn&#8217;t sell more of them.
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ffb2 works in windows 7 with force feedback</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ffb2 works in windows 7 with force feedback
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		<title>By: Rich Tysoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Tysoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for a long time, I used the non force-feedback second-generation sidewinder joystick and was gutted when it became obsolete due to the passing of the 15-pin joystick port, and the USB adapter I had didn&#039;t work.

I then, a few years ago, went completely mental and bought a CH fighterstick off ebay, for Falcon 4: allied force, but didn&#039;t really use it much. it&#039;s cool that it has all the buttons, but the throw is way too big and it doesn;t twist for rudder (I know, it&#039;s supposed to be used with pedals...)

then, late last year, I found a USB sidewinder stick (3rd gen) at the recycling shop at the local tip. for £2. yay!

I do think it&#039;s a shame MS got out of the PC gaming perpheral market. The FF wheel was the best, and I used one for 5 years with total reliability.

Was it MS who invented the twist-stick for Rudder input?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for a long time, I used the non force-feedback second-generation sidewinder joystick and was gutted when it became obsolete due to the passing of the 15-pin joystick port, and the USB adapter I had didn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I then, a few years ago, went completely mental and bought a CH fighterstick off ebay, for Falcon 4: allied force, but didn&#8217;t really use it much. it&#8217;s cool that it has all the buttons, but the throw is way too big and it doesn;t twist for rudder (I know, it&#8217;s supposed to be used with pedals&#8230;)</p>
<p>then, late last year, I found a USB sidewinder stick (3rd gen) at the recycling shop at the local tip. for £2. yay!</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s a shame MS got out of the PC gaming perpheral market. The FF wheel was the best, and I used one for 5 years with total reliability.</p>
<p>Was it MS who invented the twist-stick for Rudder input?
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		<title>By: DerangedStoat</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, just yesterday, I had a very similar conversation with a friend about my Sidewinder FF 2. Funnily enough it also started with the mention of HAWX (I also believe that game is definately not going to be a sim). I too only ever use it a couple of times a year for bouts of IL2, but I will never get rid of it. The fact that FF isn&#039;t supported in the latest versions of Windows will be a major strike against any of the reasons I have to upgrade to Windows 7.

I originally bought it for Grand Prix 4, though I quickly purchased a number of flight sims to make the most of it. Hell, it even got a work out from far too many hours pulling off combos in Tony Hawk (I think it just made life harder in that case though!).

Hell, if I never had that Sidewinder, I wouldn&#039;t have gotten my Logitech Momo wheel, and then later the G25, which is the greatest peripheral I have owned.
I like to think that years down the road when everyone is using Windows X, and USB connections are nearly as archaic as PS/2, the Sidewinder and the G25 will still have pride of place on my shelves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, just yesterday, I had a very similar conversation with a friend about my Sidewinder FF 2. Funnily enough it also started with the mention of HAWX (I also believe that game is definately not going to be a sim). I too only ever use it a couple of times a year for bouts of IL2, but I will never get rid of it. The fact that FF isn&#8217;t supported in the latest versions of Windows will be a major strike against any of the reasons I have to upgrade to Windows 7.</p>
<p>I originally bought it for Grand Prix 4, though I quickly purchased a number of flight sims to make the most of it. Hell, it even got a work out from far too many hours pulling off combos in Tony Hawk (I think it just made life harder in that case though!).</p>
<p>Hell, if I never had that Sidewinder, I wouldn&#8217;t have gotten my Logitech Momo wheel, and then later the G25, which is the greatest peripheral I have owned.<br />
I like to think that years down the road when everyone is using Windows X, and USB connections are nearly as archaic as PS/2, the Sidewinder and the G25 will still have pride of place on my shelves.
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		<title>By: Alan Au</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a Sidewinder FF 1, which was way too clunky and hardly worth the trouble.  I also had a Sidewinder Precision Pro, which sadly refused to initialized properly on my hardware so I bequeathed it to a friend when I last moved.  Interestingly, the joystick that still works on my machine is the original Sidewinder, which I keep around in the hopes that another mech combat game will show up.</description>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used a lot cheap $10-$15 crap sticks to fly MS Flight Simulator over the years.  I finally broke down and spent some real money ($30) on a Thrustmaster Top Gun fox 2 a couple of years ago and was hooked.  It weighed a ton, had a very comfortable (If you are right handed) handle and the best throttle I have ever found.  I wore it out in about 18 months and went to look for a replacement and discovered that they are now around $90.  So i went with a Xbox 360 gamepad for Windows and discovered it was great with flight sims and really handy to have for other games that are actually designed for pads.  I miss my joystick but am happy with the gamepad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used a lot cheap $10-$15 crap sticks to fly MS Flight Simulator over the years.  I finally broke down and spent some real money ($30) on a Thrustmaster Top Gun fox 2 a couple of years ago and was hooked.  It weighed a ton, had a very comfortable (If you are right handed) handle and the best throttle I have ever found.  I wore it out in about 18 months and went to look for a replacement and discovered that they are now around $90.  So i went with a Xbox 360 gamepad for Windows and discovered it was great with flight sims and really handy to have for other games that are actually designed for pads.  I miss my joystick but am happy with the gamepad.
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		<title>By: DeuceMojo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logitech Wingman all the way, baby!!!  Just kidding.  I do not like my joystick at all.  Aren&#039;t joysticks like so C-64 era?

My Wingman has: 
A) Caused me no shortage of embarrassment as more than one girlfriend has called me a nerd for owning a joystick. 
B) Destroyed two pair of perfectly good PC speakers, as my wife was searching for an A/C adapter for them and instead just grabbed the Wingman adapter, which fried one, then two sets of speakers.  Hooray for interchangeable A/C adapter connectors, with wildly different voltages and amps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logitech Wingman all the way, baby!!!  Just kidding.  I do not like my joystick at all.  Aren&#8217;t joysticks like so C-64 era?</p>
<p>My Wingman has:<br />
A) Caused me no shortage of embarrassment as more than one girlfriend has called me a nerd for owning a joystick.<br />
B) Destroyed two pair of perfectly good PC speakers, as my wife was searching for an A/C adapter for them and instead just grabbed the Wingman adapter, which fried one, then two sets of speakers.  Hooray for interchangeable A/C adapter connectors, with wildly different voltages and amps.
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		<title>By: Xerxes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.joy-stick.net/reviews/joysticks/topgun.htm

If only I had a PC that would still use the old school ports, or some USB conversion for my poor sweet Top Gun.
Lost hours to every flight / space combat simulator using this, these days it is confined to storage.

It was the Goose to my Maverick....  I suppose I should try and find one of those gameport to USB cables, and resurrect old faithful.</description>
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<p>If only I had a PC that would still use the old school ports, or some USB conversion for my poor sweet Top Gun.<br />
Lost hours to every flight / space combat simulator using this, these days it is confined to storage.</p>
<p>It was the Goose to my Maverick&#8230;.  I suppose I should try and find one of those gameport to USB cables, and resurrect old faithful.
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		<title>By: Gravekeeper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Sidewinder Precision Pro will not go quietly into the night... I&#039;ve had it since the mid-nineties, and it has accompanied me through MS Flight Simulators 95, 98, 2000, 2002, and 2004 faithfully, and has flown with me through bloody dogfights in Combat Flight Simulator 2 and 3... It&#039;s the ooooold one with the dome throttle and the game port... My old flight instructor was kind enough to give me his own Sidewinder&#039;s gameport-to-USB cable, so I could carry it into the future unknown...

The other day me and my friends all LANned CFS 2 for nostalgia&#039;s sake... We cried manly tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Sidewinder Precision Pro will not go quietly into the night&#8230; I&#8217;ve had it since the mid-nineties, and it has accompanied me through MS Flight Simulators 95, 98, 2000, 2002, and 2004 faithfully, and has flown with me through bloody dogfights in Combat Flight Simulator 2 and 3&#8230; It&#8217;s the ooooold one with the dome throttle and the game port&#8230; My old flight instructor was kind enough to give me his own Sidewinder&#8217;s gameport-to-USB cable, so I could carry it into the future unknown&#8230;</p>
<p>The other day me and my friends all LANned CFS 2 for nostalgia&#8217;s sake&#8230; We cried manly tears.
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops! meant Wingman Force 3D. No point in getting a joystick without force feedback...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops! meant Wingman Force 3D. No point in getting a joystick without force feedback&#8230;
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@compguy1088: same here, had both the Saitek Cyborg 3D and the Wingman extreme 3d pro. Gave the Saitek to my brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@compguy1088: same here, had both the Saitek Cyborg 3D and the Wingman extreme 3d pro. Gave the Saitek to my brother.
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