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	<title>Comments on: Bangalore Galore &#8211; An Empire: Total War AAR</title>
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		<title>By: David Damerell</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Damerell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Multiplayer campaign mode &quot;eventually&quot;?

As I recall, we were told that before the release of Shogun; before the release of the first major Shogun patch; before the release of The Mongol Invasion; and before the release of the first major patch for that. I suspect the same claim was made about other TW games.

I&#039;ll believe it when I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multiplayer campaign mode &#8220;eventually&#8221;?</p>
<p>As I recall, we were told that before the release of Shogun; before the release of the first major Shogun patch; before the release of The Mongol Invasion; and before the release of the first major patch for that. I suspect the same claim was made about other TW games.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sinister agent</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinister agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, really.  If you&#039;re going to teach a play in school, chances are most of the people there have never been to the theatre.  If all you do is tediously read them through a fuck-tonne of obscure, impenetrable text in a language and style they&#039;re not familiar with in a format that&#039;s utterly alien, you might as well not bother, because you&#039;re only going to instill boredom and contempt.  If you watch the plays, though, reading the text becomes infinitely easier and more meaningful, even as an adult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, really.  If you&#8217;re going to teach a play in school, chances are most of the people there have never been to the theatre.  If all you do is tediously read them through a fuck-tonne of obscure, impenetrable text in a language and style they&#8217;re not familiar with in a format that&#8217;s utterly alien, you might as well not bother, because you&#8217;re only going to instill boredom and contempt.  If you watch the plays, though, reading the text becomes infinitely easier and more meaningful, even as an adult.</p>
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		<title>By: A-Scale</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-Scale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;I actually disagree with that, kind of. Studying shakespeare is worthless without ever seeing it&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hyperbol-wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>I actually disagree with that, kind of. Studying shakespeare is worthless without ever seeing it</p></blockquote>
<p>Hyperbol-wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!</p>
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		<title>By: sinister agent</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinister agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My experience is that the education system hammers Shakespeare (as they bloody well should)&lt;/i&gt;

I actually disagree with that, kind of.  Studying shakespeare is worthless without ever seeing it, and most schools don&#039;t take the kids to see it, certainly not often.  It takes ridiculously good teachers to teach shakespeare with the plays, let alone with just the texts.  I utterly despised shakespeare in school, and it&#039;s only with a great deal of effort and some fortunate circumstances that I&#039;ve come round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My experience is that the education system hammers Shakespeare (as they bloody well should)</i></p>
<p>I actually disagree with that, kind of.  Studying shakespeare is worthless without ever seeing it, and most schools don&#8217;t take the kids to see it, certainly not often.  It takes ridiculously good teachers to teach shakespeare with the plays, let alone with just the texts.  I utterly despised shakespeare in school, and it&#8217;s only with a great deal of effort and some fortunate circumstances that I&#8217;ve come round.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhazor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is getting off topic so before the overlords condemn us I&#039;d like to mention Games (TM) as the best of british games journalism. Focuses on the experiences whislt being surprisingly light on PR stuff. An obscure Japanese import will get the same respect as a fanboy fave and it&#039;s detailed looks at old classics and interviewers with the last gen developers are really nicely done and dang well researched.
Fat Rab said it best 
&quot;Its marching down the street naked banging it&#039;s ane plonker against it&#039;s chest and shouting games, games, games games games!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting off topic so before the overlords condemn us I&#8217;d like to mention Games (TM) as the best of british games journalism. Focuses on the experiences whislt being surprisingly light on PR stuff. An obscure Japanese import will get the same respect as a fanboy fave and it&#8217;s detailed looks at old classics and interviewers with the last gen developers are really nicely done and dang well researched.<br />
Fat Rab said it best<br />
&#8220;Its marching down the street naked banging it&#8217;s ane plonker against it&#8217;s chest and shouting games, games, games games games!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Set forth to right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Set forth to right?</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;WHY do british game-journalists write better than americans?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Assuming this is true, and not just a bias, my entirely speculative reasons would be:

1. A better, more competitive market for expensive, in depth magazines that can afford to spend lots on writers (by journalistic standards of course) - think Edge in particular, but there are a ton of mags covering PC gaming in the UK, and hardly any in the US (and the main surviving one is owned by a British publisher). This is largely a function of geography and media culture, which means that UK mags are much more dependent on sub revenue and much less on ads than US mags. Consequently editorial quality is more highly prized.

2. A distinct, non-console based British gaming culture going back to the Speccy/BBC Micro days, but now sadly disappearing. While the US had the NES and SNES, the UK had the C64 and the Amiga. This gives British writers a different perspective on games and the market. Even more tendentiously, the PC-centricity of the UK market until recently could mean that there were more games worth writing well about. This isn&#039;t a diss on console games at all, it&#039;s just that PC genres like RTSes lend themselves better to AARs than, say, Madden. 

3. Point 1 means there is a lot of work available (again, by journalistic standards) for a relatively small community of freelance writers, who live and die by the quality (OK, and quantity) of their writing. There was a much closer connection between individual writers and the readers than in the US (in my experience, and only until podcasts came along and changed everything) , which again promoted quality writing. I remember chatting with the editor of ST Format on their BBS with my 2400 baud modem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>WHY do british game-journalists write better than americans?
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<p>Assuming this is true, and not just a bias, my entirely speculative reasons would be:</p>
<p>1. A better, more competitive market for expensive, in depth magazines that can afford to spend lots on writers (by journalistic standards of course) &#8211; think Edge in particular, but there are a ton of mags covering PC gaming in the UK, and hardly any in the US (and the main surviving one is owned by a British publisher). This is largely a function of geography and media culture, which means that UK mags are much more dependent on sub revenue and much less on ads than US mags. Consequently editorial quality is more highly prized.</p>
<p>2. A distinct, non-console based British gaming culture going back to the Speccy/BBC Micro days, but now sadly disappearing. While the US had the NES and SNES, the UK had the C64 and the Amiga. This gives British writers a different perspective on games and the market. Even more tendentiously, the PC-centricity of the UK market until recently could mean that there were more games worth writing well about. This isn&#8217;t a diss on console games at all, it&#8217;s just that PC genres like RTSes lend themselves better to AARs than, say, Madden. </p>
<p>3. Point 1 means there is a lot of work available (again, by journalistic standards) for a relatively small community of freelance writers, who live and die by the quality (OK, and quantity) of their writing. There was a much closer connection between individual writers and the readers than in the US (in my experience, and only until podcasts came along and changed everything) , which again promoted quality writing. I remember chatting with the editor of ST Format on their BBS with my 2400 baud modem.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gap Gen: &quot;I’d like to know how much of Your Sinclair’s fault that is&quot; The character of British game magazines has, I suspect, altered the approach of most British game writers. While the Americans, generally speaking, seem to have come from the tech side, British people were riffing off pop magazines. (YS was lifting directly from Smash Hits, for example).

While doesn&#039;t make it better or worse, how the two developed in separate markets changes lots of fundamentals (in terms of what a writer is thinking when setting forth to right).

For me? In short, YS was permission to go mental.

KG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gap Gen: &#8220;I’d like to know how much of Your Sinclair’s fault that is&#8221; The character of British game magazines has, I suspect, altered the approach of most British game writers. While the Americans, generally speaking, seem to have come from the tech side, British people were riffing off pop magazines. (YS was lifting directly from Smash Hits, for example).</p>
<p>While doesn&#8217;t make it better or worse, how the two developed in separate markets changes lots of fundamentals (in terms of what a writer is thinking when setting forth to right).</p>
<p>For me? In short, YS was permission to go mental.</p>
<p>KG</p>
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		<title>By: UncleLou</title>
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		<dc:creator>UncleLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Fantastic stuff but lets see a “Plan B” style diary for the joy of spotting the inevitable screw up days in advance.

I’m forcing myself not to buy this on release and instead wait for the second patch or gold edition.&lt;/i&gt;

I see where you&#039;re coming from, but if everyone did that, it would never happen.

/follower of Kant ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Fantastic stuff but lets see a “Plan B” style diary for the joy of spotting the inevitable screw up days in advance.</p>
<p>I’m forcing myself not to buy this on release and instead wait for the second patch or gold edition.</i></p>
<p>I see where you&#8217;re coming from, but if everyone did that, it would never happen.</p>
<p>/follower of Kant ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: CdrJameson</title>
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		<dc:creator>CdrJameson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my copy here in my very hands.

And it won&#039;t install, of course. Not even put the files on the hard drive, because Steam has its fingers in its ears and is going &#039;la la la&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my copy here in my very hands.</p>
<p>And it won&#8217;t install, of course. Not even put the files on the hard drive, because Steam has its fingers in its ears and is going &#8216;la la la&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhazor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic stuff but lets see a &quot;Plan B&quot; style diary for the joy of spotting the inevitable screw up days in advance.

I&#039;m forcing myself not to buy this on release and instead wait for the second patch or gold edition.
The difference between Medieval 2 on release and Medieval 2 (v 1.2) was immense. Better balanced, better optimised, vastly improved ai and so on.
I think I&#039;ll have to play through the four mini campaigns of Kingdoms before I get into this. I mean I want to, I don&#039;t have to. There&#039;s no ransoms or anything. I&#039;m fairly certain my mum won&#039;t die if I fail to convert Lithuania. Not 100% certain but fairly sure.

Better safe than sorry is what I&#039;m saying here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic stuff but lets see a &#8220;Plan B&#8221; style diary for the joy of spotting the inevitable screw up days in advance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m forcing myself not to buy this on release and instead wait for the second patch or gold edition.<br />
The difference between Medieval 2 on release and Medieval 2 (v 1.2) was immense. Better balanced, better optimised, vastly improved ai and so on.<br />
I think I&#8217;ll have to play through the four mini campaigns of Kingdoms before I get into this. I mean I want to, I don&#8217;t have to. There&#8217;s no ransoms or anything. I&#8217;m fairly certain my mum won&#8217;t die if I fail to convert Lithuania. Not 100% certain but fairly sure.</p>
<p>Better safe than sorry is what I&#8217;m saying here.</p>
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