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	<title>Comments on: The Sunday Papers</title>
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		<title>By: drewski</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/03/15/the-sunday-papers-60/comment-page-2/#comment-159285</link>
		<dc:creator>drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Death of Print Journalism thing - I think there&#039;s a lot to be said for quality. I stopped buying an Australian PC gaming mag because they - in my opinion - became more about hyping big games and big names rather then giving interesting and well written opinions on PC gaming.

I find Eurogamer and RPS to be vastly more relevant to my interests - even as an essentially pure PC gamer (I have a DS too for teh trains), a specialist mainstream magazine was less relevant then the combined might of a well written general gaming site and a PC enthusiast blog.

For the record, the Rocky tanked because it was horribly run for a long time, not because of declining standards or the death of newsprint. It doesn&#039;t matter how good your product is if you can&#039;t make any money from it, and the management ensured that was the case for the Rocky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Death of Print Journalism thing &#8211; I think there&#8217;s a lot to be said for quality. I stopped buying an Australian PC gaming mag because they &#8211; in my opinion &#8211; became more about hyping big games and big names rather then giving interesting and well written opinions on PC gaming.</p>
<p>I find Eurogamer and RPS to be vastly more relevant to my interests &#8211; even as an essentially pure PC gamer (I have a DS too for teh trains), a specialist mainstream magazine was less relevant then the combined might of a well written general gaming site and a PC enthusiast blog.</p>
<p>For the record, the Rocky tanked because it was horribly run for a long time, not because of declining standards or the death of newsprint. It doesn&#8217;t matter how good your product is if you can&#8217;t make any money from it, and the management ensured that was the case for the Rocky.</p>
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		<title>By: Gap Gen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/03/15/the-sunday-papers-60/comment-page-2/#comment-159119</link>
		<dc:creator>Gap Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, OK. Yeah, I guess Jim got the job after Q3 came out, if I remember my This Gaming Life correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, OK. Yeah, I guess Jim got the job after Q3 came out, if I remember my This Gaming Life correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/03/15/the-sunday-papers-60/comment-page-2/#comment-159108</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t. It was Pierce.

KG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t. It was Pierce.</p>
<p>KG</p>
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		<title>By: Gap Gen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/03/15/the-sunday-papers-60/comment-page-2/#comment-159103</link>
		<dc:creator>Gap Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: &lt;i&gt;&quot;PCG UK’s peak readership was over 80k, around the time of the Quake III review.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Can I take a stab at who wrote that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: <i>&#8220;PCG UK’s peak readership was over 80k, around the time of the Quake III review.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Can I take a stab at who wrote that?</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late game Saint&#039;s Row 2 gleefully knocks anything that &#039;then&#039; offered into a cocked hat - now is best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late game Saint&#8217;s Row 2 gleefully knocks anything that &#8216;then&#8217; offered into a cocked hat &#8211; now is best.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh god I hate [new-fangled thing]. Especially since Ken Levine left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god I hate [new-fangled thing]. Especially since Ken Levine left.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AndrewC, not only that, but there&#039;ll also be some new-fangled thing that we can&#039;t even guess at right now that the kids will all be doing, and we&#039;ll disapprove of that just as strongly as current grumpy old men are disapproving of video games, forgetting in our advanced years that we went through exactly the same pointless argument from the other side when we were younger. Seems to be the way of things, unfortunately.

Hell, there&#039;ll probably be a government campaign suggesting that kids should stop doing [new-fangled thing] and go back to playing video games instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AndrewC, not only that, but there&#8217;ll also be some new-fangled thing that we can&#8217;t even guess at right now that the kids will all be doing, and we&#8217;ll disapprove of that just as strongly as current grumpy old men are disapproving of video games, forgetting in our advanced years that we went through exactly the same pointless argument from the other side when we were younger. Seems to be the way of things, unfortunately.</p>
<p>Hell, there&#8217;ll probably be a government campaign suggesting that kids should stop doing [new-fangled thing] and go back to playing video games instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the concept of AAA games and massive budgets is putting a strain on the release of games that are &quot;special&quot; like wot der used to be.  Then again there were an awful lot of crap games made around the same time as the System Shocks and the PS:Ts and the Thiefs of this world, so maybe people just remember the good ones.  I still think the best of &quot;then&quot; is better than the best of &quot;recently&quot; however.  It&#039;s probably just me but I haven&#039;t felt that same spark of pure genius in a game I&#039;ve played since the likes of the aformentioned or the original Half Life.

That&#039;s not to say there aren&#039;t excellent games being released and every now and then one comes pretty close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the concept of AAA games and massive budgets is putting a strain on the release of games that are &#8220;special&#8221; like wot der used to be.  Then again there were an awful lot of crap games made around the same time as the System Shocks and the PS:Ts and the Thiefs of this world, so maybe people just remember the good ones.  I still think the best of &#8220;then&#8221; is better than the best of &#8220;recently&#8221; however.  It&#8217;s probably just me but I haven&#8217;t felt that same spark of pure genius in a game I&#8217;ve played since the likes of the aformentioned or the original Half Life.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say there aren&#8217;t excellent games being released and every now and then one comes pretty close.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like games!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like games!</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/03/15/the-sunday-papers-60/comment-page-2/#comment-158976</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;have you considered that when we are old we will turn into grumpy old men? While we may not be calling for a ban on games outright, we will be angrily complaining that the shit the kids are playing is bad and not like the real games we had when we were kids.&quot;

From reading comments threads, I suspect we haven&#039;t got long to wait.

KG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;have you considered that when we are old we will turn into grumpy old men? While we may not be calling for a ban on games outright, we will be angrily complaining that the shit the kids are playing is bad and not like the real games we had when we were kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>From reading comments threads, I suspect we haven&#8217;t got long to wait.</p>
<p>KG</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt W - have you considered that when we are old we will turn into grumpy old men? While we may not be calling for a ban on games outright, we will be angrily complaining that the shit the kids are playing is bad and not like the real games we had when we were kids. 

We&#039;ll probably get all worried about how neurovenously holo-optic gaming is causing space cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt W &#8211; have you considered that when we are old we will turn into grumpy old men? While we may not be calling for a ban on games outright, we will be angrily complaining that the shit the kids are playing is bad and not like the real games we had when we were kids. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll probably get all worried about how neurovenously holo-optic gaming is causing space cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leeks!

haha, I think your friend might be on to something.

Besides, the whole &#039;stuff is like music&#039; discussion has been going on since Plato (who would have been a big fan of Rage Against The Machine), and probably won&#039;t be stopping any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leeks!</p>
<p>haha, I think your friend might be on to something.</p>
<p>Besides, the whole &#8217;stuff is like music&#8217; discussion has been going on since Plato (who would have been a big fan of Rage Against The Machine), and probably won&#8217;t be stopping any time soon.</p>
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