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	<title>Comments on: Unreal Tournament 3 And The New Lazarus Effect</title>
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		<title>By: MommyRox</title>
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		<dc:creator>MommyRox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE this game! Bought it from gamestop for $18.00 in March of this year. Now I&#039;m hooked, joined a clan &amp; spend way too much time having fun online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE this game! Bought it from gamestop for $18.00 in March of this year. Now I&#8217;m hooked, joined a clan &amp; spend way too much time having fun online.</p>
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		<title>By: Spidery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spidery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a flash in the pan. The game did have a spike of players during the free weekends, but as soon as they realised they had to pay for the game it was back down to it&#039;s rather pathetic population of 200 per night - less than a quarter of what UT2k4 enjoys.

Epic should stop trying to flog this utterly dead horse, and either make a new UT game or abandon the series and concentrate on Gears of War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a flash in the pan. The game did have a spike of players during the free weekends, but as soon as they realised they had to pay for the game it was back down to it&#8217;s rather pathetic population of 200 per night &#8211; less than a quarter of what UT2k4 enjoys.</p>
<p>Epic should stop trying to flog this utterly dead horse, and either make a new UT game or abandon the series and concentrate on Gears of War.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to do a quick wiki to see if Epic made any interesting games that I had missed after the first UT. Not a single one. Ohh Cliffy, what are you doing?! I remember a video interview when 2003 was released and him saying he would not play another tittle without vehicles again. Ironically 2003 only had one vehicle as an Easter egg and all the competition had plenty. They never really did that bit any well later on either. 

Gears of War must be one of the most overrated games ever. I know it looks good but so does Crysis and that game sucks too. Gears is only fun in co-up and that fun lasts tops 2 hours. Then it&#039;s just repetition of ehh shooting the same guys again and again. I can only remember 2 basic enemies. How many &quot;special&quot; moments in that game sticks to memory? Fountain fight(because it felt a bit fresh and it came earyl in the game), that big dinosaur (the first time) and maybe the train with it&#039;s extremely boring boss.

Played through KillZone2 the other day. Shit it looked good at first too. Very similar to Gears, although better. It also felt very repetitive. Better end boss, to bad the other fights were to easy. 

Maybe I&#039;m just missing a better story in these games? I mean I love UT and Quake 3 because it&#039;s perfected multiplayer were there is no need for story. Gears tries to have a singleplayer story but I don&#039;t care for it at all and therefor I&#039;m not sure why I fight except for thinking the other guys must be evil since they shoot at me. And if that&#039;s it I rather play against other people for some real competition.

Stupid idea but maybe someone should try out making a singleplayer campaign were some levels go through ongoing multiplayer matches. 

Shit, sorry for the ramblings off track. Gave UT3 some hours and it felt empty. They should focus more on vehicles or, even better, just kick them out. The art direction from Epic is also quite bad. To bad at they got some really talented people. Their concepts look amazing and like the games could have more dept to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to do a quick wiki to see if Epic made any interesting games that I had missed after the first UT. Not a single one. Ohh Cliffy, what are you doing?! I remember a video interview when 2003 was released and him saying he would not play another tittle without vehicles again. Ironically 2003 only had one vehicle as an Easter egg and all the competition had plenty. They never really did that bit any well later on either. </p>
<p>Gears of War must be one of the most overrated games ever. I know it looks good but so does Crysis and that game sucks too. Gears is only fun in co-up and that fun lasts tops 2 hours. Then it&#8217;s just repetition of ehh shooting the same guys again and again. I can only remember 2 basic enemies. How many &#8220;special&#8221; moments in that game sticks to memory? Fountain fight(because it felt a bit fresh and it came earyl in the game), that big dinosaur (the first time) and maybe the train with it&#8217;s extremely boring boss.</p>
<p>Played through KillZone2 the other day. Shit it looked good at first too. Very similar to Gears, although better. It also felt very repetitive. Better end boss, to bad the other fights were to easy. </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just missing a better story in these games? I mean I love UT and Quake 3 because it&#8217;s perfected multiplayer were there is no need for story. Gears tries to have a singleplayer story but I don&#8217;t care for it at all and therefor I&#8217;m not sure why I fight except for thinking the other guys must be evil since they shoot at me. And if that&#8217;s it I rather play against other people for some real competition.</p>
<p>Stupid idea but maybe someone should try out making a singleplayer campaign were some levels go through ongoing multiplayer matches. </p>
<p>Shit, sorry for the ramblings off track. Gave UT3 some hours and it felt empty. They should focus more on vehicles or, even better, just kick them out. The art direction from Epic is also quite bad. To bad at they got some really talented people. Their concepts look amazing and like the games could have more dept to them.</p>
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		<title>By: littlewilly91</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlewilly91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see how consoles could keep up better. Make a PS3 compatible STEAM and bung it in the playstation store, and have it run in the background and share friends with the XMB Friends menu. well sort of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how consoles could keep up better. Make a PS3 compatible STEAM and bung it in the playstation store, and have it run in the background and share friends with the XMB Friends menu. well sort of?</p>
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		<title>By: Oak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will nothing please Mel Gibson?</description>
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		<title>By: Mel Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not impressed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not impressed</p>
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		<title>By: M.P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about these &quot;relaunches&quot;, it seems to be a growing trend on the PC lately - not just UT3 and Witcher, but games like Burnout as well, which basically used its PC release  as an excuse to relaunch on consoles as well, and Eve being back on store shelves to mark its recent big patch. It&#039;s more than just buying extra shelf-life, it seems to be faking critical acclaim by emulating &quot;GOTY edition&quot; re-releases.

Although in the case of UT3 the first weekend was probably timed to coincide with Quake Live - the big hooplah over its release probably created extra interest for UT3, whether from people who prefer Unreal games cause Quake-style multiplayer is a bit too &quot;pure&quot; for them, or from folks who tried to get into Qlive but couldn&#039;t because of the queues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about these &#8220;relaunches&#8221;, it seems to be a growing trend on the PC lately &#8211; not just UT3 and Witcher, but games like Burnout as well, which basically used its PC release  as an excuse to relaunch on consoles as well, and Eve being back on store shelves to mark its recent big patch. It&#8217;s more than just buying extra shelf-life, it seems to be faking critical acclaim by emulating &#8220;GOTY edition&#8221; re-releases.</p>
<p>Although in the case of UT3 the first weekend was probably timed to coincide with Quake Live &#8211; the big hooplah over its release probably created extra interest for UT3, whether from people who prefer Unreal games cause Quake-style multiplayer is a bit too &#8220;pure&#8221; for them, or from folks who tried to get into Qlive but couldn&#8217;t because of the queues.</p>
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		<title>By: bozo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its been said already, but is worth repeating:

UT3 was a port of a console game.  It had unfriendly activation requirements. More PC gamers would have ignored this if it had been a great game or even a good one, but it was neither.  I understand teh company trying to squeeze the last bit of revenue from it, but I think they already accomplished what management wanted.  They effectively killed the franchise and helped turn more people from PC gaming to what most companies view as the future: consoles.  This makes me sad, but as long as console sales are as good as there and PC game sale are not as profitable, I expect my gaming days to be limited as I will never own a console again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been said already, but is worth repeating:</p>
<p>UT3 was a port of a console game.  It had unfriendly activation requirements. More PC gamers would have ignored this if it had been a great game or even a good one, but it was neither.  I understand teh company trying to squeeze the last bit of revenue from it, but I think they already accomplished what management wanted.  They effectively killed the franchise and helped turn more people from PC gaming to what most companies view as the future: consoles.  This makes me sad, but as long as console sales are as good as there and PC game sale are not as profitable, I expect my gaming days to be limited as I will never own a console again.</p>
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		<title>By: Dio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have played all unreal series and playing ut3.
It&#039;s a good game maybe different from the great ut2004 but good.
The patch for me was not so effective since I have changed the interface with great mamixer and the maps I&#039;m playing is from community. so that&#039;s the power of ut3 and all unreal games: modding and community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have played all unreal series and playing ut3.<br />
It&#8217;s a good game maybe different from the great ut2004 but good.<br />
The patch for me was not so effective since I have changed the interface with great mamixer and the maps I&#8217;m playing is from community. so that&#8217;s the power of ut3 and all unreal games: modding and community.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see.  Waht did this 2.0 patch bring that was missing.  Oh, that would be that it made it more of a PC came than a console game.  When they released this &quot;port&quot; for PC I was not surprised it was not great in sales and the game was not great at all, for PC that is.  To me, that means it was a flop and the worse released they have done.  But, with 2.0 and the showing of commitment with the Titan pack it brought around the game to be more of a PC game.  More options added to fit a PC need.  Go figure there.

Here is my opinion.  Fire Cliff B. ;)  He is a console junky and only hurting PC sales with his comments and lack of direction.  He is close minded unless slapped in the face.  Ever since I have seen him be &quot;console&quot; (GOW) UT has only been on a down hill run. 

Also, when you put out a PC game make it a PC game when it is released.   Not a year later when people have already developed a sour taste for it.  Like the menus have options for PC support, the online server managers have proper filters and worting options, and make a working dedicated server that is actually working and ready upon release.

Maybe they will learn. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see.  Waht did this 2.0 patch bring that was missing.  Oh, that would be that it made it more of a PC came than a console game.  When they released this &#8220;port&#8221; for PC I was not surprised it was not great in sales and the game was not great at all, for PC that is.  To me, that means it was a flop and the worse released they have done.  But, with 2.0 and the showing of commitment with the Titan pack it brought around the game to be more of a PC game.  More options added to fit a PC need.  Go figure there.</p>
<p>Here is my opinion.  Fire Cliff B. ;)  He is a console junky and only hurting PC sales with his comments and lack of direction.  He is close minded unless slapped in the face.  Ever since I have seen him be &#8220;console&#8221; (GOW) UT has only been on a down hill run. </p>
<p>Also, when you put out a PC game make it a PC game when it is released.   Not a year later when people have already developed a sour taste for it.  Like the menus have options for PC support, the online server managers have proper filters and worting options, and make a working dedicated server that is actually working and ready upon release.</p>
<p>Maybe they will learn. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: c4asesino</title>
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		<dc:creator>c4asesino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have played ut 99 nine years, and in my opinon ut3 it is now a perfect sequel (ut2k4 is an overvalued sh!·i·) I don&#039;t care the opinion of those that hate ut3, me alone I have a good time when playing and I am happy heee, I love this game, it is as ut99 version of 2009. 10++  (.Y.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have played ut 99 nine years, and in my opinon ut3 it is now a perfect sequel (ut2k4 is an overvalued sh!·i·) I don&#8217;t care the opinion of those that hate ut3, me alone I have a good time when playing and I am happy heee, I love this game, it is as ut99 version of 2009. 10++  (.Y.)</p>
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		<title>By: djnforce9</title>
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		<dc:creator>djnforce9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup I was one of the people that shelled out to purchase it during that free weekend. I was quite impressed at the changes made and around $11 (down from $19.99) was extremely reasonable for a game like that (if only they&#039;d cut down the $49.99 tag on Left 4 Dead and I would get that one too). I actually bought UT3 DURING the promo since I knew I&#039;d be playing this for a long time to come. Great move on Valve&#039;s part. Just further proves that many games overall are just to pricey for what they are worth. Make it reasonable and give a decent trial though (none of this &quot;first map/level only nonsense) and people will come. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup I was one of the people that shelled out to purchase it during that free weekend. I was quite impressed at the changes made and around $11 (down from $19.99) was extremely reasonable for a game like that (if only they&#8217;d cut down the $49.99 tag on Left 4 Dead and I would get that one too). I actually bought UT3 DURING the promo since I knew I&#8217;d be playing this for a long time to come. Great move on Valve&#8217;s part. Just further proves that many games overall are just to pricey for what they are worth. Make it reasonable and give a decent trial though (none of this &#8220;first map/level only nonsense) and people will come. :)</p>
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