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	<title>Comments on: EG&#8217;s Retro Sunday: Mafia</title>
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		<title>By: PC Monster</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/04/19/egs-retro-sunday-mafia/comment-page-1/#comment-182458</link>
		<dc:creator>PC Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 10:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok.

I&#039;ve had the game a week now (cheers, eBay) and am now uninstalling it. It was fine while I could get it to work but the perplexing absence of sound in the video cutscenes (of which there are thankfully few) and the recurring, play-ruining animation-loop I can&#039;t stop Tommy getting into (or break him out of; it&#039;s still there when I reload or start a different game mode!) have finally forced me to give up on it. It&#039;s a real shame: there is obviously a great game here, and a very well-written story feeding it all, but the technical problems even in the patched version are just pissing me off right now and have killed dead any desire to continue playing.

Reminisce at your own peril.

In other news, Steam won&#039;t let me play Zeno Clash because it keeps trying to apply the new update and failing to find a server to do so - they&#039;re &quot;too busy&quot;, apparently. That&#039;s right: this miraculous wonder-service won&#039;t let me play a game I&#039;ve bought and paid for. The next person who sings Steam&#039;s praises on this site is getting hit in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had the game a week now (cheers, eBay) and am now uninstalling it. It was fine while I could get it to work but the perplexing absence of sound in the video cutscenes (of which there are thankfully few) and the recurring, play-ruining animation-loop I can&#8217;t stop Tommy getting into (or break him out of; it&#8217;s still there when I reload or start a different game mode!) have finally forced me to give up on it. It&#8217;s a real shame: there is obviously a great game here, and a very well-written story feeding it all, but the technical problems even in the patched version are just pissing me off right now and have killed dead any desire to continue playing.</p>
<p>Reminisce at your own peril.</p>
<p>In other news, Steam won&#8217;t let me play Zeno Clash because it keeps trying to apply the new update and failing to find a server to do so &#8211; they&#8217;re &#8220;too busy&#8221;, apparently. That&#8217;s right: this miraculous wonder-service won&#8217;t let me play a game I&#8217;ve bought and paid for. The next person who sings Steam&#8217;s praises on this site is getting hit in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Rei Onryou</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/04/19/egs-retro-sunday-mafia/comment-page-1/#comment-176357</link>
		<dc:creator>Rei Onryou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good retro piece, and the draw distance mod sounds cool. It&#039;s already on my &quot;to play&quot; pile behind me. One day I&#039;ll reach it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good retro piece, and the draw distance mod sounds cool. It&#8217;s already on my &#8220;to play&#8221; pile behind me. One day I&#8217;ll reach it. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jakson Breen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jakson Breen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Alley chase scene near the beginning was one of those golden gaming moments that made me squeal just a little. It made me wonder why other games at the time never made me run away from my enemies instead of shooting them in the head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Alley chase scene near the beginning was one of those golden gaming moments that made me squeal just a little. It made me wonder why other games at the time never made me run away from my enemies instead of shooting them in the head&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t enjoy Mafia.  After GTA3 it felt so stiff and stale.  I did like the racetrack mission, but then I&#039;m a Gran Turismo &quot;have to get all the license tests gold&quot; type.  The looong slow cinematics are the final nail in its coffin.  It was authentic, but not very much fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t enjoy Mafia.  After GTA3 it felt so stiff and stale.  I did like the racetrack mission, but then I&#8217;m a Gran Turismo &#8220;have to get all the license tests gold&#8221; type.  The looong slow cinematics are the final nail in its coffin.  It was authentic, but not very much fun.</p>
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		<title>By: url404</title>
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		<dc:creator>url404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@malkav11

I&#039;m rather ashamed to say my experience rather echo&#039;s that. I dug up the game tonight and tried to re-installed it but now I can&#039;t due to hanging on the 2nd CD during install. I wonder if I can still bother take2...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@malkav11</p>
<p>I&#8217;m rather ashamed to say my experience rather echo&#8217;s that. I dug up the game tonight and tried to re-installed it but now I can&#8217;t due to hanging on the 2nd CD during install. I wonder if I can still bother take2&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: l1ddl3monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>l1ddl3monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day the local kids carried my mothers groceries home from the store.  Ya know why?  It was out of respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day the local kids carried my mothers groceries home from the store.  Ya know why?  It was out of respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadowcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Without quicksave, and with astonishingly high difficulty in places, I remembered that many of Mafia&#039;s best missions are about repeated attempts, refining your approach until you find the slickest, subtlest, and cleverest technique for surviving the situation.&lt;/blockquote&gt; I just wanted to say that it&#039;s pretty weird of you to say that, and still have issues with the race :) Your comments here are completely applicable to that mission, and that is precisely why the race is one of my favourite memories of playing Mafia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Without quicksave, and with astonishingly high difficulty in places, I remembered that many of Mafia&#8217;s best missions are about repeated attempts, refining your approach until you find the slickest, subtlest, and cleverest technique for surviving the situation.</p></blockquote>
<p> I just wanted to say that it&#8217;s pretty weird of you to say that, and still have issues with the race :) Your comments here are completely applicable to that mission, and that is precisely why the race is one of my favourite memories of playing Mafia.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadowcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original unpatched race was awesome! (Although EBass is clearly a bit freakishly good.)

Sure it took a few attempts, but come on people, it&#039;s a race. You&#039;re &lt;em&gt;supposed&lt;/em&gt; to have to learn the track and your car&#039;s abilities a little. Seriously, what kind of satisfaction is there in a racing game that has no challenge?

Now that&#039;s not to say that I don&#039;t think they should have patched it -- Mafia isn&#039;t actually a racing game first and foremost, after all -- but I was seriously pissed off when I heard that they&#039;d made it easier in the patch &lt;strong&gt;without&lt;/strong&gt; given you the option of playing it in its original form! That really, really sucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original unpatched race was awesome! (Although EBass is clearly a bit freakishly good.)</p>
<p>Sure it took a few attempts, but come on people, it&#8217;s a race. You&#8217;re <em>supposed</em> to have to learn the track and your car&#8217;s abilities a little. Seriously, what kind of satisfaction is there in a racing game that has no challenge?</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s not to say that I don&#8217;t think they should have patched it &#8212; Mafia isn&#8217;t actually a racing game first and foremost, after all &#8212; but I was seriously pissed off when I heard that they&#8217;d made it easier in the patch <strong>without</strong> given you the option of playing it in its original form! That really, really sucked.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashurbanipal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashurbanipal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember picking it up on a gamble and it being quite good. Never finished it, having abandoned the thing in a fit of pique after an insurpassable racing section. I wanted to play it again, but my old computer didn&#039;t like it. Now that I&#039;ve got a new one, this article has given me the idea to give it another shot, actually. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember picking it up on a gamble and it being quite good. Never finished it, having abandoned the thing in a fit of pique after an insurpassable racing section. I wanted to play it again, but my old computer didn&#8217;t like it. Now that I&#8217;ve got a new one, this article has given me the idea to give it another shot, actually. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Pribbernow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Pribbernow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah...that brings back memories of free ride hijinx. I got my jollies by driving my taxi through boroughs at high-speed, hitting pedestrians while sideswiping rival gang cars and police cars, culminating in a posse of criminals and cops chasing me through every corner of the city. When that got old I would hop aboard an L-train and snipe at cars and citizens with my Tommy gun, instantly igniting running gun fights with the police, who waited for me at every terminal. Good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;that brings back memories of free ride hijinx. I got my jollies by driving my taxi through boroughs at high-speed, hitting pedestrians while sideswiping rival gang cars and police cars, culminating in a posse of criminals and cops chasing me through every corner of the city. When that got old I would hop aboard an L-train and snipe at cars and citizens with my Tommy gun, instantly igniting running gun fights with the police, who waited for me at every terminal. Good times.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLordHimself</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLordHimself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John

Its worth trying just to see it.  But, you will need a pretty kickass machine to keep the framerate reasonable.  Also its a pain to setup because you have to manually alter about 50 files.  Happily, someone at MafiaScene.com has altered them all and packaged them together.  The pack is something like the optimised draw pack or something, have a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John</p>
<p>Its worth trying just to see it.  But, you will need a pretty kickass machine to keep the framerate reasonable.  Also its a pain to setup because you have to manually alter about 50 files.  Happily, someone at MafiaScene.com has altered them all and packaged them together.  The pack is something like the optimised draw pack or something, have a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my few disappointments in the backlog. I can tolerate a lot of shitty game design and gameplay, but not without a quicksave. Story seemed relatively interesting when I wasn&#039;t smashing my PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my few disappointments in the backlog. I can tolerate a lot of shitty game design and gameplay, but not without a quicksave. Story seemed relatively interesting when I wasn&#8217;t smashing my PC.</p>
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