Comments on: Mythos Does The Lazarus Thing http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:07:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bremze http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-186152 Bremze Sun, 10 May 2009 07:40:11 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-186152 @JKjoker Hellgate London and Mythos where being made by different parts of Flagship studios. Mythos felt like a solid game even in its beta stage. In my opinion, the first diablo-clone style game that got to what made diablo 2 fun and even improved on some parts (best crafting system I have ever seen in a game). @JKjoker
Hellgate London and Mythos where being made by different parts of Flagship studios. Mythos felt like a solid game even in its beta stage. In my opinion, the first diablo-clone style game that got to what made diablo 2 fun and even improved on some parts (best crafting system I have ever seen in a game).

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]]> By: Bob_D http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185942 Bob_D Sat, 09 May 2009 21:54:50 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185942 “ 'Considering Hanbisofts part in forcing Flagship to close down I hope this crashes and burns.' ” "Their part being giving Bill Roper money in the first place." You have no idea. Flagship were given enough money to make FOUR big-budget MMOs, and that was just the money given them for Hellgate. I kid you not. Hanbitsoft invested tons of money, and ended up getting totally screwed (I think they might have come close to shutting down, but were bought up by T3), and they didn't get anything they were promised. They weren't the only ones, either. I know a few former Flagship employees, and despite the story that management told the press about giving out the final paychecks out of their own pockets, employees never were paid what they were owed. Management misused company funds to take their families on vacation and buy "company" sports cars. The management still tried to play the victim at the end, when talking about the discussions they had with Hanbit, trying to get more money after they wasted all they had been given, but the responsibility falls squarely on their shoulders for the collapse of Flagship. P.S. to games journalists- Bill Roper has worked as a PR guy, not a game developer. He didn't "make" (or even work on) Hellgate or Mythos any more than he did Diablo 2 or any other Blizzard game. I know he likes to take credit for these things, but he made no design decisions on any of them; stop letting him get away with that B.S. “ ‘Considering Hanbisofts part in forcing Flagship to close down I hope this crashes and burns.’ ”
“Their part being giving Bill Roper money in the first place.”

You have no idea. Flagship were given enough money to make FOUR big-budget MMOs, and that was just the money given them for Hellgate. I kid you not. Hanbitsoft invested tons of money, and ended up getting totally screwed (I think they might have come close to shutting down, but were bought up by T3), and they didn’t get anything they were promised. They weren’t the only ones, either.
I know a few former Flagship employees, and despite the story that management told the press about giving out the final paychecks out of their own pockets, employees never were paid what they were owed. Management misused company funds to take their families on vacation and buy “company” sports cars. The management still tried to play the victim at the end, when talking about the discussions they had with Hanbit, trying to get more money after they wasted all they had been given, but the responsibility falls squarely on their shoulders for the collapse of Flagship.

P.S. to games journalists- Bill Roper has worked as a PR guy, not a game developer. He didn’t “make” (or even work on) Hellgate or Mythos any more than he did Diablo 2 or any other Blizzard game. I know he likes to take credit for these things, but he made no design decisions on any of them; stop letting him get away with that B.S.

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]]> By: JKjoker http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185816 JKjoker Sat, 09 May 2009 19:35:49 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185816 @Nuzz: Torchlight ? That game made by the flagship dudes ? the ones that already fucked up Hellgate ? you have hopes on that ? They already said they were going for micropayments (so you know it will be a grindfest probably with lack of content like hellgate at least initially) @Nuzz: Torchlight ? That game made by the flagship dudes ? the ones that already fucked up Hellgate ? you have hopes on that ?

They already said they were going for micropayments (so you know it will be a grindfest probably with lack of content like hellgate at least initially)

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]]> By: NuZZ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185376 NuZZ Fri, 08 May 2009 22:59:49 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185376 Damn Hannbitsoft! The betas were awesome. Now this game I feel I will never appreciate again because it's being mishandled by the same people who make those terrible grindfests with terrible game engines. Die Mythos. Live Torchlight. Damn Hannbitsoft!
The betas were awesome. Now this game I feel I will never appreciate again because it’s being mishandled by the same people who make those terrible grindfests with terrible game engines. Die Mythos. Live Torchlight.

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]]> By: Comment system, what comment system? http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185332 Comment system, what comment system? Fri, 08 May 2009 20:54:01 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185332 Would this be Korean only is put out by Hanbisoft? Would this be Korean only is put out by Hanbisoft?

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]]> By: amishmonster http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185241 amishmonster Fri, 08 May 2009 17:20:21 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185241 If the new devs can keep the same character and feel of the game the same as it was under Flagship, I'll be pretty excited about this. At the moment, I'm much more excited to hear that Runic actually has a product in development - I thought they'd fallen off the radar. Glad to hear they didn't. Also, the one weekend I had with Mythos was a whirlwind romance ending in tragedy when the game shut down three days after I got into the beta. Memories... If the new devs can keep the same character and feel of the game the same as it was under Flagship, I’ll be pretty excited about this. At the moment, I’m much more excited to hear that Runic actually has a product in development – I thought they’d fallen off the radar. Glad to hear they didn’t.

Also, the one weekend I had with Mythos was a whirlwind romance ending in tragedy when the game shut down three days after I got into the beta. Memories…

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]]> By: Ben Tyrer http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185193 Ben Tyrer Fri, 08 May 2009 15:41:09 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185193 My friend george just summed it up quite nicely; 3D Realms has just closed down, and Mythos is launched back into development. It's Cosmic Balance. My friend george just summed it up quite nicely;

3D Realms has just closed down, and Mythos is launched back into development. It’s Cosmic Balance.

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]]> By: DK http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185189 DK Fri, 08 May 2009 15:37:14 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185189 "Considering Hanbisofts part in forcing Flagship to close down I hope this crashes and burns." Their part being giving Bill Roper money in the first place. “Considering Hanbisofts part in forcing Flagship to close down I hope this crashes and burns.”
Their part being giving Bill Roper money in the first place.

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]]> By: MetalCircus http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185185 MetalCircus Fri, 08 May 2009 15:25:38 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185185 I hope its still free. that's all i care about. I hope its still free. that’s all i care about.

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]]> By: Bowl of Snakes http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185173 Bowl of Snakes Fri, 08 May 2009 14:48:41 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185173 The word 'Hanbitsoft' always makes me think of an army of adorable Korean programmers with tiny hairy feet The word ‘Hanbitsoft’ always makes me think of an army of adorable Korean programmers with tiny hairy feet

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]]> By: JKjoker http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185166 JKjoker Fri, 08 May 2009 14:40:32 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185166 Diablo online ? subscriptions ? micropayments ? ugh, *shiver* .... hell no, im not going near it, they just won't learn, and what was left out of the flagship disaster is now doing another diablo like thingy based on micropayments as well, jeez. it always sound like they are trying to make WOW again with 1/100 of the content and then charge you for every single thingy that gets added im already fearing that diablo 3 will get ruined with this crap Diablo online ? subscriptions ? micropayments ? ugh, *shiver* …. hell no, im not going near it, they just won’t learn, and what was left out of the flagship disaster is now doing another diablo like thingy based on micropayments as well, jeez.

it always sound like they are trying to make WOW again with 1/100 of the content and then charge you for every single thingy that gets added

im already fearing that diablo 3 will get ruined with this crap

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]]> By: Rei Onryou http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/08/mythos-does-the-lazarus-thing/#comment-185159 Rei Onryou Fri, 08 May 2009 14:25:10 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=11306#comment-185159 @Downloads_Plz: Poetic justice? @Downloads_Plz: Poetic justice?

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