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	<title>Comments on: Taking The Piss? TF2&#8217;s Jarate Is Real</title>
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		<title>By: J. Prevost</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Prevost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;wonder what significance can be taken from the Scout’s desire for tacos?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmm.  Totally arbitrary collectible objects?  Like funny hats, say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>wonder what significance can be taken from the Scout’s desire for tacos?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm.  Totally arbitrary collectible objects?  Like funny hats, say?</p>
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		<title>By: StormTec</title>
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		<dc:creator>StormTec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the central focus of the art direction is more around caricatures, not the bigger picture that was suggested about &quot;arms race out of control&quot;. though I can see why they&#039;d read that, the weapons at least are meant to be more caricature-focused, and always have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the central focus of the art direction is more around caricatures, not the bigger picture that was suggested about &#8220;arms race out of control&#8221;. though I can see why they&#8217;d read that, the weapons at least are meant to be more caricature-focused, and always have been.</p>
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		<title>By: PC Monster</title>
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		<dc:creator>PC Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to watch the debate develop on this.

For the record, the Jarate thing just isn&#039;t funny to me. It seems to stem from the community which is why Valve have done it - for the fans - so it should be treated as an in-joke more than a measure of Valve finally losing the plot, but for those of us on the outside the central concept is simply devoid of any real humour. A jar of urine? Really? That&#039;s the best they can come up with? It reminds me of the kind of thing you&#039;d find in Viz, a rude, sweary comic school-age boys used to lap up back in the day, which pretty much says it all.

The cartoon is great, and as I&#039;ve said already I think Saxton Hale is a brilliant homage to those old comic ads, but I just don&#039;t find the piss thing funny. At all.

@Wulf - I object strongly to both the content and tone of your amazingly self-righteous rant against the supposed psychological malfunctions you apparently see all around you. Quite apart from being completely unable to accept a conflicting point of view without decrying it as insanity you also seem perfectly comfortable making unfounded accusations against others without a shred of proof (Hang around Digg much?). To answer your specific charge against me: yes, I do childish things. But what&#039;s your point, exactly? Playing a computer game is a childish thing. Reading a comic is a childish thing. Watching cartoons is a childish thing to do. I have done all of these in abundance in recent times. But have I ever thrown urine on anyone? Or laughed whenever I&#039;ve seen it done or depicted? No. Not once in my entire life, child or adult (Whether you choose to believe that assertion or not is entirely up to you).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to watch the debate develop on this.</p>
<p>For the record, the Jarate thing just isn&#8217;t funny to me. It seems to stem from the community which is why Valve have done it &#8211; for the fans &#8211; so it should be treated as an in-joke more than a measure of Valve finally losing the plot, but for those of us on the outside the central concept is simply devoid of any real humour. A jar of urine? Really? That&#8217;s the best they can come up with? It reminds me of the kind of thing you&#8217;d find in Viz, a rude, sweary comic school-age boys used to lap up back in the day, which pretty much says it all.</p>
<p>The cartoon is great, and as I&#8217;ve said already I think Saxton Hale is a brilliant homage to those old comic ads, but I just don&#8217;t find the piss thing funny. At all.</p>
<p>@Wulf &#8211; I object strongly to both the content and tone of your amazingly self-righteous rant against the supposed psychological malfunctions you apparently see all around you. Quite apart from being completely unable to accept a conflicting point of view without decrying it as insanity you also seem perfectly comfortable making unfounded accusations against others without a shred of proof (Hang around Digg much?). To answer your specific charge against me: yes, I do childish things. But what&#8217;s your point, exactly? Playing a computer game is a childish thing. Reading a comic is a childish thing. Watching cartoons is a childish thing to do. I have done all of these in abundance in recent times. But have I ever thrown urine on anyone? Or laughed whenever I&#8217;ve seen it done or depicted? No. Not once in my entire life, child or adult (Whether you choose to believe that assertion or not is entirely up to you).</p>
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		<title>By: Jazmeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine the heavy had a sandwich in that picture. Totally fits.</description>
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		<title>By: Bozzley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bozzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MD: Yes sir/madam, I am genuinely baffled by this. Could you please explain this to me? 

My analogies were meant to highlight that some people are threatening to stop playing TF2 because of a tiny part of that game. I was actually pulling the old &quot;make a daft analogy which hopefully entertainingly reinforces the point made above it&quot; routine.

When I first heard about some people&#039;s rather extreme reaction to this, I did do the &quot;these people are idiots&quot; thing. You can read my previous posts on it. But then I got to reading the rest of the comments, and I actually thought about the whole thing. Which led to me realising I didn&#039;t understand why people were taking it so personally, so I thought I&#039;d ask. I gave a couple of examples to show what I thought was going on (them analogies you mentioned), and after reading the latest batch of comments, I&#039;m even more confused.

This is purely to anyone who is seriously considering not playing TF2 any more - is virtual piss really that scary / offensive? Can you please explain why? I crave understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MD: Yes sir/madam, I am genuinely baffled by this. Could you please explain this to me? </p>
<p>My analogies were meant to highlight that some people are threatening to stop playing TF2 because of a tiny part of that game. I was actually pulling the old &#8220;make a daft analogy which hopefully entertainingly reinforces the point made above it&#8221; routine.</p>
<p>When I first heard about some people&#8217;s rather extreme reaction to this, I did do the &#8220;these people are idiots&#8221; thing. You can read my previous posts on it. But then I got to reading the rest of the comments, and I actually thought about the whole thing. Which led to me realising I didn&#8217;t understand why people were taking it so personally, so I thought I&#8217;d ask. I gave a couple of examples to show what I thought was going on (them analogies you mentioned), and after reading the latest batch of comments, I&#8217;m even more confused.</p>
<p>This is purely to anyone who is seriously considering not playing TF2 any more &#8211; is virtual piss really that scary / offensive? Can you please explain why? I crave understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowmancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadowmancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Games broken, can&#039;t connect to any servers or do anything.</description>
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		<title>By: Saul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they have de-coupled unlocks from achievements!! I can play TF2 again!!

I&#039;m so happy. The jar of pee is just the (yellow) icing on the cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they have de-coupled unlocks from achievements!! I can play TF2 again!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so happy. The jar of pee is just the (yellow) icing on the cake.</p>
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		<title>By: invisiblejesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>invisiblejesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some sloooooow downloading, here.  :(</description>
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		<title>By: Dorsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>confirmed that they changed it, dont know how to get them yet.</description>
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		<title>By: MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wooooo downloading time

Just noticed that in the patch notes the new weapons are described as &quot;new &lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt; replacement, the &lt;i&gt;y&lt;/i&gt;&quot; (&quot;new sniper rifle replacement, The Huntsman&quot;), with no mention of unlockables. Is this normal, or does it signal a change in the method of doling out the new weapons? Someone told me they might be going with random pickups rather than unlocks, has that been confirmed? (I&#039;m secretly hopeful that they are just giving us the weapons straight off, but I doubt it.)</description>
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<p>Just noticed that in the patch notes the new weapons are described as &#8220;new <i>x</i> replacement, the <i>y</i>&#8221; (&#8221;new sniper rifle replacement, The Huntsman&#8221;), with no mention of unlockables. Is this normal, or does it signal a change in the method of doling out the new weapons? Someone told me they might be going with random pickups rather than unlocks, has that been confirmed? (I&#8217;m secretly hopeful that they are just giving us the weapons straight off, but I doubt it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dorsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ITS OUT! RESTART STEAM!</description>
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		<title>By: Nurdbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nurdbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry internet men get angry over everything. Leave them be. Personally, I find this hilarious.</description>
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