Despite our immediate early support, it seems that the masters of capitalism have decided Brutal Legend is not for the likes of us. So let’s do something about it. Let’s keep storming Doublefine’s headquarters and threatening Tim Schafer with the insertion of obsolete 3D-cards into much-needed body-orifices. As a Plan B, forumite Ulix has made a petition demanding Brutal Legend PC. Sign it. You may think that internet petition never change anything. But I think you’ll find that an internet petition was actually instrumental in the emancipation of women across many western states. It worked then, and can work again. Sign the petition here. And watch the trailer beneath the cut, then probably want to sign it again.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE ABOUT TO CHOP, WE SALUTE YOU, etc.
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“Reply to dot
360 controllers cost £30. You expected capcom to bundle that free with a £25 game? Or perhaps spend tens of thousands on inventing a controller with the same complexity? Not to mention the fact it was sold through Steam which despite its many pros does not excel at materialising peripherals into my home.
Also, yes your proposed system was terrible. Apart from anything else it *feels* better on a controller.
Reply to Quests
OK, you’ve contradicted yourself enough that I really can’t argue with you anymore.”
Is what I was going to say. But Hogan’s Bodyslam has rendered further debate meaningless. Well played that man.
Have you read anything of what I typed? It’s precisely because they couldn’t bundle a controller with DMC4 PC they should’ve at least made Kb/m controls workable for those people who just don’t have a gamepad and wouldn’t care to buy one for one game per year. Of course a gamepad would be better! But DMC4 got panned by reviewers regardless of how well made a port it was because its Kb/M controls sucked and rightly so, IMO. And then, I mentioned that Capcom’s doing the right thing by bundling the retail version of Street Fighter 4 PC with a Madcatz fighting game pad, total cost of the package? Only $60. For those who already have something to control it with, it’ll be on DD too. Beyond PC gamers probably not caring much for a fighting game with no crossplatform and a delayed release-there aren’t any complaints I could have towards Capcom’s conduct in that particular case. I hope it does ok though, mostly just because why the heck not, the bigger genre variety my preferred platform has, the better.
But then I can’t blame anyone if it doesn’t sell well either-because fighting games never have been popular on the PC, much like RTS games never have been popular on consoles.
But as far as DMC4 is concerned, I have lots of complaints.
Plus, DMC4 actually was not on Steam or any other method of digital distribution for that matter. Not even Capcom’s own online store. Which is one of the ways Capcom shot itself in the foot with their release. And stop blaming PC gamers for Capcom’s own failings.
@catska – Two axes (X & Y) on each stick, so two for movement, two for camera, one for revving – that makes five. The PS3/360 pads each have 6 analogue axes each (two of them being triggers), and the PS3 has tilt sensing as well, adding another couple.
As mentioned, as good as mouse/keyboard is for FPS’s and RTS’s, it has a grand total of two analogue axes to play with.
This comment thread is highly depressing.
So, Dot. Are you in favour of reviewers panning flight sims for playing badly with mouse/keyboard if they don’t bundle a fully-featured flightstick in with the package? Because if not, then you’ve just completely invalidated your own argument.
Some games just don’t work with M/KB, period. Accept this. Live with it. Deal with the fact that sometimes – just sometimes – you might have to use a different controller. This is not because the developers are lazy and out to ruin the purity of the PC platform, it’s because the game just doesn’t work right with any other control setup.
Now, if you don’t mind, I’m going to rage about how badly Dawn of War 2 plays with a steering wheel.
@ Quests
The main point of my post was to convince you that eradicating action games would not automatically make hardcore rpgs and adventures prosper, so if I got you to start considering that possibility, I’m satisfied.
I still very strongly disagree with you about the supposed mindlessness of action games and intellectual superiority of adventures, but since the reply I wrote turned out way too big (I seem unable to write short, to the point texts) and since that wasn’t my main point anyway, I’ll leave it the way it is.
How really really stupid this argument has become.
I already feel sorry for myself for hinting at my petition…
Apart from being sorry I completely agree with Dominic’s standpoint and seriously think anyone who doesn’t is eaither stupid or refusing to see some basic sense…
Sad, sad…
@Bhazor:
If you see contradiction you surely misunderstood me, and i’m sorry about that… but instead of just claiming it pointlessly you should try to explain me where and how, even tho we all know the whole internet business is the old “throw shit at each other” game until one chokes. :)
if you want to straighten the thing out im at th3ava7ar@hotmail.com
cause i don’t think these messy places are fit for the clarity you might seek.
What does this have to do with what I said? I have a 360 gamepad for games like this because I play quite a few racing games too. It still doesn’t make it ok to neglect people who do not. PC is all about the choice. Some people may choose not to buy a peripheral they don’t need for a single game. Capcom seemed to forget about that. They’re not lazy? Tell me why then instead of trying to at least slightly rectify the problem in a way I suggested, they just left the controls in such an awful shape instead?
Say, let’s imagine that Resident Evil 5 PC gets stricken by random unlikely chance and somehow emerges with no mouse aiming(again, it’s just an example because I’m pretty certain RE5 PC will have proper PC shooter controls and a generally great port), full gamepad support though. Your logic dictates that it’s ok, because you can always just buy a gamepad and so on and so forth, but here’s the thing: there is no logic, you’re just being absurd and are trying to blame people who have nothing to do with the problem instead of its source. And it doesn’t even have to do with PC shooter controls being better by principle, it’s just about the fact that PC games need to have proper Kb/M controls no matter the game and if they don’t, they should be panned by reviewers.
Oh, and just FYI, I actually have played IL Sturmovik with Kb/M. It’s workable, more than I would imagine DMC4 Kb/M controls are(never tried them, again, because I just used a gamepad).
Rubeck
“I got you to start considering that possibility”
Absolutely, thank you for making that point. Most importantly my future considerations will start from there :)
Quests, somebody dumbed down your email address. :(
(tehe, sorry)
It’s more effective to boycott hardware companies such as AND IBM or even Invidia. Maybe even get the hackers to hack all consoles live systems would be more effective.
AMD has 80% of it’s hardware in consoles, I say boycott AMD. Personaly the game looks dum any way. Also why would you want to support game devs that don’t care about their fans.
If you really want it badly rent a console and rent the game. use an emulator play the game any way.
am I the only one who wants that rock and roll version of Dr. Feelgood?
That’s enough crazy-talk, thanks guys.