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	<title>Comments on: Brutal Legend Not On PC. Still.</title>
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		<title>By: RPS</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/22/brutal-legend-on-not-on-pc-still/comment-page-4/#comment-194539</link>
		<dc:creator>RPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 13:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s enough crazy-talk, thanks guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s enough crazy-talk, thanks guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryx</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/22/brutal-legend-on-not-on-pc-still/comment-page-4/#comment-194348</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>am I the only one who wants that rock and roll version of Dr. Feelgood?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>am I the only one who wants that rock and roll version of Dr. Feelgood?</p>
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		<title>By: dreamhunk</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/22/brutal-legend-on-not-on-pc-still/comment-page-4/#comment-194347</link>
		<dc:creator>dreamhunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more effective to boycott hardware companies such as AND IBM or even Invidia. Maybe even get the hackers to hack all consoles live systems would be more effective.

AMD has 80% of it&#039;s hardware in consoles, I say boycott AMD. Personaly the game looks dum any way. Also why would you want to support game devs that don&#039;t care about their fans.

If you really want it badly rent a console and rent the game. use an emulator play the game any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more effective to boycott hardware companies such as AND IBM or even Invidia. Maybe even get the hackers to hack all consoles live systems would be more effective.</p>
<p>AMD has 80% of it&#8217;s hardware in consoles, I say boycott AMD. Personaly the game looks dum any way. Also why would you want to support game devs that don&#8217;t care about their fans.</p>
<p>If you really want it badly rent a console and rent the game. use an emulator play the game any way.</p>
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		<title>By: There was a point somewhere...</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/22/brutal-legend-on-not-on-pc-still/comment-page-4/#comment-194245</link>
		<dc:creator>There was a point somewhere...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 19:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quests, somebody dumbed down your email address. :(
(tehe, sorry)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quests, somebody dumbed down your email address. :(<br />
(tehe, sorry)</p>
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		<title>By: Quests</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/22/brutal-legend-on-not-on-pc-still/comment-page-4/#comment-194239</link>
		<dc:creator>Quests</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 19:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rubeck
&quot;I got you to start considering that possibility&quot;

Absolutely, thank you for making that point. Most importantly my future considerations will start from there :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubeck<br />
&#8220;I got you to start considering that possibility&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, thank you for making that point. Most importantly my future considerations will start from there :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/22/brutal-legend-on-not-on-pc-still/comment-page-4/#comment-194235</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Some games just don’t work with M/KB, period. Accept this. Live with it. Deal with the fact that sometimes - just sometimes - you might have to use a different controller. This is not because the developers are lazy and out to ruin the purity of the PC platform, it’s because the game just doesn’t work right with any other control setup.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What does this have to do with what I said? I have a 360 gamepad for games like this because I play quite a few racing games too. It still doesn&#039;t make it ok to neglect people who do not. PC &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; all about the choice. Some people may choose not to buy a peripheral they don&#039;t need for a single game. Capcom seemed to forget about that. They&#039;re not lazy? Tell me why then instead of trying to at least slightly rectify the problem in a way I suggested, they just left the controls in such an awful shape instead?

Say, let&#039;s imagine that Resident Evil 5 PC gets stricken by random unlikely chance and somehow emerges with no mouse aiming(again, it&#039;s just an example because I&#039;m pretty certain RE5 PC will have proper PC shooter controls and a generally great port), full gamepad support though. Your logic dictates that it&#039;s ok, because you can always just buy a gamepad and so on and so forth, but here&#039;s the thing: there is no logic, you&#039;re just being absurd and are trying to blame people who have nothing to do with the problem instead of its source. And it doesn&#039;t even have to do with PC shooter controls being better by principle, it&#039;s just about the fact that &lt;i&gt;PC games need to have proper Kb/M controls no matter the game and if they don&#039;t, they should be panned by reviewers&lt;/i&gt;.

Oh, and just FYI, I actually have played IL Sturmovik with Kb/M. It&#039;s workable, more than I would imagine DMC4 Kb/M controls are(never tried them, again, because I just used a gamepad).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Some games just don’t work with M/KB, period. Accept this. Live with it. Deal with the fact that sometimes &#8211; just sometimes &#8211; you might have to use a different controller. This is not because the developers are lazy and out to ruin the purity of the PC platform, it’s because the game just doesn’t work right with any other control setup.</p></blockquote>
<p>What does this have to do with what I said? I have a 360 gamepad for games like this because I play quite a few racing games too. It still doesn&#8217;t make it ok to neglect people who do not. PC <i>is</i> all about the choice. Some people may choose not to buy a peripheral they don&#8217;t need for a single game. Capcom seemed to forget about that. They&#8217;re not lazy? Tell me why then instead of trying to at least slightly rectify the problem in a way I suggested, they just left the controls in such an awful shape instead?</p>
<p>Say, let&#8217;s imagine that Resident Evil 5 PC gets stricken by random unlikely chance and somehow emerges with no mouse aiming(again, it&#8217;s just an example because I&#8217;m pretty certain RE5 PC will have proper PC shooter controls and a generally great port), full gamepad support though. Your logic dictates that it&#8217;s ok, because you can always just buy a gamepad and so on and so forth, but here&#8217;s the thing: there is no logic, you&#8217;re just being absurd and are trying to blame people who have nothing to do with the problem instead of its source. And it doesn&#8217;t even have to do with PC shooter controls being better by principle, it&#8217;s just about the fact that <i>PC games need to have proper Kb/M controls no matter the game and if they don&#8217;t, they should be panned by reviewers</i>.</p>
<p>Oh, and just FYI, I actually have played IL Sturmovik with Kb/M. It&#8217;s workable, more than I would imagine DMC4 Kb/M controls are(never tried them, again, because I just used a gamepad).</p>
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		<title>By: Quests</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quests</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bhazor:

If you see contradiction you surely misunderstood me, and i&#039;m sorry about that... but instead of just claiming it pointlessly you should try to explain me where and how, even tho we all know the whole internet business is the old &quot;throw shit at each other&quot; game until one chokes. :)

if you want to straighten the thing out  im at th3ava7ar@hotmail.com
cause i don&#039;t think these messy places are fit for the clarity you might seek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bhazor:</p>
<p>If you see contradiction you surely misunderstood me, and i&#8217;m sorry about that&#8230; but instead of just claiming it pointlessly you should try to explain me where and how, even tho we all know the whole internet business is the old &#8220;throw shit at each other&#8221; game until one chokes. :)</p>
<p>if you want to straighten the thing out  im at <a href="mailto:th3ava7ar@hotmail.com">th3ava7ar@hotmail.com</a><br />
cause i don&#8217;t think these messy places are fit for the clarity you might seek.</p>
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		<title>By: ulix</title>
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		<dc:creator>ulix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How really really stupid this argument has become.
I already feel sorry for myself for hinting at my petition...

Apart from being sorry I completely agree with Dominic&#039;s standpoint and seriously think anyone who doesn&#039;t is eaither stupid or refusing to see some basic sense... 

Sad, sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How really really stupid this argument has become.<br />
I already feel sorry for myself for hinting at my petition&#8230;</p>
<p>Apart from being sorry I completely agree with Dominic&#8217;s standpoint and seriously think anyone who doesn&#8217;t is eaither stupid or refusing to see some basic sense&#8230; </p>
<p>Sad, sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rubeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rubeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Quests

The main point of my post was to convince you that eradicating action games would not automatically make hardcore rpgs and adventures prosper, so if I got you to start considering that possibility, I&#039;m satisfied.

I still very strongly disagree with you about the supposed mindlessness of action games and intellectual superiority of adventures, but since the reply I wrote turned out way too big (I seem unable to write short, to the point texts) and since that wasn&#039;t my main point anyway,  I&#039;ll leave it the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Quests</p>
<p>The main point of my post was to convince you that eradicating action games would not automatically make hardcore rpgs and adventures prosper, so if I got you to start considering that possibility, I&#8217;m satisfied.</p>
<p>I still very strongly disagree with you about the supposed mindlessness of action games and intellectual superiority of adventures, but since the reply I wrote turned out way too big (I seem unable to write short, to the point texts) and since that wasn&#8217;t my main point anyway,  I&#8217;ll leave it the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominic White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Dot. Are you in favour of reviewers panning flight sims for playing badly with mouse/keyboard if they don&#039;t bundle a fully-featured flightstick in with the package? Because if not, then you&#039;ve just completely invalidated your own argument.

Some games just don&#039;t work with M/KB, period. Accept this. Live with it. Deal with the fact that sometimes - just sometimes - you might have to use a different controller. This is not because the developers are lazy and out to ruin the purity of the PC platform, it&#039;s because the game just doesn&#039;t work right with any other control setup.

Now, if you don&#039;t mind, I&#039;m going to rage about how badly Dawn of War 2 plays with a steering wheel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Dot. Are you in favour of reviewers panning flight sims for playing badly with mouse/keyboard if they don&#8217;t bundle a fully-featured flightstick in with the package? Because if not, then you&#8217;ve just completely invalidated your own argument.</p>
<p>Some games just don&#8217;t work with M/KB, period. Accept this. Live with it. Deal with the fact that sometimes &#8211; just sometimes &#8211; you might have to use a different controller. This is not because the developers are lazy and out to ruin the purity of the PC platform, it&#8217;s because the game just doesn&#8217;t work right with any other control setup.</p>
<p>Now, if you don&#8217;t mind, I&#8217;m going to rage about how badly Dawn of War 2 plays with a steering wheel.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment thread is highly depressing.</description>
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		<title>By: Dominic White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominic White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@catska - Two axes (X &amp; Y) on each stick, so two for movement, two for camera, one for revving - that makes five. The PS3/360 pads each have 6 analogue axes each (two of them being triggers), and the PS3 has tilt sensing as well, adding another couple.

As mentioned, as good as mouse/keyboard is for FPS&#039;s and RTS&#039;s, it has a grand total of two analogue axes to play with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@catska &#8211; Two axes (X &amp; Y) on each stick, so two for movement, two for camera, one for revving &#8211; that makes five. The PS3/360 pads each have 6 analogue axes each (two of them being triggers), and the PS3 has tilt sensing as well, adding another couple.</p>
<p>As mentioned, as good as mouse/keyboard is for FPS&#8217;s and RTS&#8217;s, it has a grand total of two analogue axes to play with.</p>
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