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	<title>Comments on: ArmA II: Craziest Of All The Games</title>
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		<title>By: teo</title>
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		<dc:creator>teo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Bother with the platform war thing?
I prefer PC games but there&#039;s no point in being elitist about it
It&#039;s just taste

Are you working on AAW? You guys need to get your shit together when it comes to releasing trailers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Bother with the platform war thing?<br />
I prefer PC games but there&#8217;s no point in being elitist about it<br />
It&#8217;s just taste</p>
<p>Are you working on AAW? You guys need to get your shit together when it comes to releasing trailers</p>
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		<title>By: vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly OT in relations to ArmaII but this is where the TrackIR stuff is heading -&gt; http://vimeo.com/4177769 

Looks amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly OT in relations to ArmaII but this is where the TrackIR stuff is heading -&gt; <a href="http://vimeo.com/4177769" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/4177769</a> </p>
<p>Looks amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: dsmart</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/26/arma-ii-craziest-of-all-the-games/comment-page-2/#comment-196058</link>
		<dc:creator>dsmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/47440/ArmA-II-Is-A-Bit-Buggy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh-oh&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/47440/ArmA-II-Is-A-Bit-Buggy" rel="nofollow">Oh-oh</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mama Luigi</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/26/arma-ii-craziest-of-all-the-games/comment-page-2/#comment-195345</link>
		<dc:creator>Mama Luigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 13:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to point out to dsmart that Sins of a Solar Empire would be abbreviated something like &quot;SoaSE&quot; or just Sins, instead of &quot;SiNs&quot; (which looks like that other game: http://store.steampowered.com/app/1300/).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like to point out to dsmart that Sins of a Solar Empire would be abbreviated something like &#8220;SoaSE&#8221; or just Sins, instead of &#8220;SiNs&#8221; (which looks like that other game: <a href="http://store.steampowered.com/app/1300/)." rel="nofollow">http://store.steampowered.com/app/1300/).</a></p>
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		<title>By: dsmart</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/26/arma-ii-craziest-of-all-the-games/comment-page-2/#comment-195271</link>
		<dc:creator>dsmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 10:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There’s really no reason to subject yourself to console gaming when you could have a good PC. I like that I can say that on this message board. Long live RPS.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly. No matter who says what, the PC is the best gaming platform and it has more gamers than ALL consoles combined.

The problem with our beloved platform have all been related to piss-poor games, the upgrade grind and of course piracy.

@Digit

I absolutely agree. ArmaII is going to end up being populated by us die hards. I simply don&#039;t see them increasing the user base in any way, shape or form. Which is fine of course because obviously the user base was substantial enough for them to want to do a sequel. Most studios with games with such a storied history don&#039;t get a second chance. Ever.

OFP2 will kill ArmaII. Anyone who says otherwise is dillusional. For one thing, they&#039;re on all three consoles. Plus, given the backing of Codemasters, those guys already have the console versions in mind since day one. So that right there is a given.

Since OFP2 is looking like a COD4 clone - but with open spaces - my guess is that the battle is going to be between OFP2 and MW2 where ArmaII isn&#039;t even going to be a bleep. In that battle, my money is on MW2 because that team is vastly more experienced than anyone that Codemasters can or has thrown at OFP2.

ArmaII is going to continue being the niche underdog and a year from now, we&#039;ll all still be playing and bitching at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There’s really no reason to subject yourself to console gaming when you could have a good PC. I like that I can say that on this message board. Long live RPS.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly. No matter who says what, the PC is the best gaming platform and it has more gamers than ALL consoles combined.</p>
<p>The problem with our beloved platform have all been related to piss-poor games, the upgrade grind and of course piracy.</p>
<p>@Digit</p>
<p>I absolutely agree. ArmaII is going to end up being populated by us die hards. I simply don&#8217;t see them increasing the user base in any way, shape or form. Which is fine of course because obviously the user base was substantial enough for them to want to do a sequel. Most studios with games with such a storied history don&#8217;t get a second chance. Ever.</p>
<p>OFP2 will kill ArmaII. Anyone who says otherwise is dillusional. For one thing, they&#8217;re on all three consoles. Plus, given the backing of Codemasters, those guys already have the console versions in mind since day one. So that right there is a given.</p>
<p>Since OFP2 is looking like a COD4 clone &#8211; but with open spaces &#8211; my guess is that the battle is going to be between OFP2 and MW2 where ArmaII isn&#8217;t even going to be a bleep. In that battle, my money is on MW2 because that team is vastly more experienced than anyone that Codemasters can or has thrown at OFP2.</p>
<p>ArmaII is going to continue being the niche underdog and a year from now, we&#8217;ll all still be playing and bitching at it.</p>
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		<dc:creator>user@example.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 08:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TrackIR is so damn wonderful.  I even find myself wanting it in games where I &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; turn with the gun as fast as I can turn my head, simply because it&#039;s easier and more natural - if I&#039;m sprinting past a turning and want to see what&#039;s down it without turning to face it, for instance, or if I want to quickly check out an entire room.  It&#039;s just better to look from side to side and up and down with it, and knowing what&#039;s about to drop on your head is always good.  Always.

The only downside is that playing first person games without it feels weird.

Half-Life 3 needs TrackIR support.  Maybe not in something like Team Fortress 2, but I can see a place for it in the Half-Life games, and maybe Left 4 Dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TrackIR is so damn wonderful.  I even find myself wanting it in games where I <i>can</i> turn with the gun as fast as I can turn my head, simply because it&#8217;s easier and more natural &#8211; if I&#8217;m sprinting past a turning and want to see what&#8217;s down it without turning to face it, for instance, or if I want to quickly check out an entire room.  It&#8217;s just better to look from side to side and up and down with it, and knowing what&#8217;s about to drop on your head is always good.  Always.</p>
<p>The only downside is that playing first person games without it feels weird.</p>
<p>Half-Life 3 needs TrackIR support.  Maybe not in something like Team Fortress 2, but I can see a place for it in the Half-Life games, and maybe Left 4 Dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Digit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 05:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technologically I think Arma II will be great, I just have absolutely no faith in their gameplay at all since Arma.  The game was as fun as gargling with wasps. :/  OPF2 for my money, Codies may have stolen the name, but they know gameplay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technologically I think Arma II will be great, I just have absolutely no faith in their gameplay at all since Arma.  The game was as fun as gargling with wasps. :/  OPF2 for my money, Codies may have stolen the name, but they know gameplay.</p>
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		<title>By: vic</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/26/arma-ii-craziest-of-all-the-games/comment-page-2/#comment-195141</link>
		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else think the videos made by dsylecxi are much better than the BIS ones. I think the music he uses in his clips  is more brooding which seems to match the mood of the game footage a LOT better. The BIS videos try and use a bombastic orchestral score or rock soundtrack but they can&#039;t compete with games like COD for that sort of thing. Arma II footage will never have the cinematic quality of a COD title because the game isn&#039;t a series of &quot;scripted hollywood sequences&quot;. BIS should respect their own game a bit more and make trailers that match it in mood. The immersion for one thing is a stand out and the ambient sound when the squad is crossing a field or in on of the town streets is really quiet but it sounds real (aka peaceful) which is eerie and cool seeing as you are in a combat zone.

Also watching this footage made me think this kind of realism is what games like Stalker need to make the otherwordly elements they depend upon more jarring. I only mention it cause I read &#039;Roadside Picnic&#039; last week and now I want to enter the zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else think the videos made by dsylecxi are much better than the BIS ones. I think the music he uses in his clips  is more brooding which seems to match the mood of the game footage a LOT better. The BIS videos try and use a bombastic orchestral score or rock soundtrack but they can&#8217;t compete with games like COD for that sort of thing. Arma II footage will never have the cinematic quality of a COD title because the game isn&#8217;t a series of &#8220;scripted hollywood sequences&#8221;. BIS should respect their own game a bit more and make trailers that match it in mood. The immersion for one thing is a stand out and the ambient sound when the squad is crossing a field or in on of the town streets is really quiet but it sounds real (aka peaceful) which is eerie and cool seeing as you are in a combat zone.</p>
<p>Also watching this footage made me think this kind of realism is what games like Stalker need to make the otherwordly elements they depend upon more jarring. I only mention it cause I read &#8216;Roadside Picnic&#8217; last week and now I want to enter the zone.</p>
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		<title>By: jackflash</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackflash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Serondal, make a paypal donation account and I will send you some money.  :)

Seriously, man, I built my first computer about a year ago, and it was really quite easy.  Did it for my brother, then did my own in the fall.  Built a very high end computer for less than a thousand bucks, including a 22 inch samsung display.  There&#039;s really no reason you can&#039;t build yourself a great new box from scratch for $600 - $800 for a mid to high end computer.  If you already have a case, PSU and all your peripherals, you&#039;re looking at even less.  Honestly, I do recommend it.  I bought a 360 to bridge the gap between my laptop and the time when I could build my own comp.  Now that I have the comp, the 360 has lain unused for over a year (anybody want it?).  There&#039;s really no reason to subject yourself to console gaming when you could have a good PC.  I like that I can say that on this message board.  Long live RPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Serondal, make a paypal donation account and I will send you some money.  :)</p>
<p>Seriously, man, I built my first computer about a year ago, and it was really quite easy.  Did it for my brother, then did my own in the fall.  Built a very high end computer for less than a thousand bucks, including a 22 inch samsung display.  There&#8217;s really no reason you can&#8217;t build yourself a great new box from scratch for $600 &#8211; $800 for a mid to high end computer.  If you already have a case, PSU and all your peripherals, you&#8217;re looking at even less.  Honestly, I do recommend it.  I bought a 360 to bridge the gap between my laptop and the time when I could build my own comp.  Now that I have the comp, the 360 has lain unused for over a year (anybody want it?).  There&#8217;s really no reason to subject yourself to console gaming when you could have a good PC.  I like that I can say that on this message board.  Long live RPS.</p>
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		<title>By: psyk</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/26/arma-ii-craziest-of-all-the-games/comment-page-2/#comment-195128</link>
		<dc:creator>psyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda agree about finding stuff that works together but it only needs a bit of research to find out what works well together but putting it together couldn&#039;t be more simple is just screws and slotting things together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda agree about finding stuff that works together but it only needs a bit of research to find out what works well together but putting it together couldn&#8217;t be more simple is just screws and slotting things together.</p>
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		<title>By: Armchair Private</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/26/arma-ii-craziest-of-all-the-games/comment-page-2/#comment-195121</link>
		<dc:creator>Armchair Private</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ArmA without mods had such clumsy controls that I felt like a 300-pound fat jerk on a boot camp.  I love the game but there were times when I thought to myself, &quot;Gee, I could crouch and get up faster than that!&quot;

Hopefully ArmA 2 will be different.   Inferior graphics I can live with,  but shit controls are virtually fatal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ArmA without mods had such clumsy controls that I felt like a 300-pound fat jerk on a boot camp.  I love the game but there were times when I thought to myself, &#8220;Gee, I could crouch and get up faster than that!&#8221;</p>
<p>Hopefully ArmA 2 will be different.   Inferior graphics I can live with,  but shit controls are virtually fatal.</p>
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		<title>By: Serondal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serondal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Psyk You may think so Psyk but I have to disagree because I can&#039;t do it :P I&#039;ve been able to upgrade very basic things like putting in new graphics card, upgarding the PSU and adding ram but that is all very basic stuff. Removing the entire mother board and putting a new PCU in it when  I get installed is a much bigger step. I&#039;m not saying I couldn&#039;t do it, but I&#039;m also afraid I&#039;l destroy the stuff I&#039;m working with because I&#039;m a farking idiot ;) Also not sure if whatI&#039;ve already GOT in my computer will work with the new mother board and make me end up with a new mobo and pcu but a computer that won&#039;t work with it other wise (Say my hard drive and cd /dvd is so old it won&#039;t work with newer generations of mother board or my graphics card don&#039;t like it ect) EVen the cheepest options I&#039;ve explored cost to much as well. What may be easy and cheep for you isn&#039;t easy or cheep for me my friend. I&#039;ve been able to keep my computer playing new games for 8 years but I&#039;m afraid my computer&#039;s life span is finally coming to an end, at least for the high end games. I&#039;ll probably be able to play Indie games and the like for a long while yet, and there is still a massive number of games I can play that I&#039;ve not gotten around to yet like say the company of heros expansion and bioschock ect. 

@DSmart I see what you&#039;re saying and totally agree with you. With a game like Arm-A 2 I supose they couldn&#039;t really shoot for a wider auidence by lowering the specs and still get the insane game they&#039;re shooting for. At some point I supose you just have to cut customers like me loose. The only thing I&#039;m afraid of for them is that they don&#039;t have MANY customers to begin with, losing ones with lower spec machines might end up doing them in while they spend more and more money using high end technology for their newer games. Arm-A is a niche game as is , cutting that niche down to even less people can&#039;t be good for the business model. I could be wrong, maybe I&#039;m at the extreme outside of the niche or not really even part of the niche at all and just a fluke customer lol. 

That being said Arm-A is a fantastic game in and of itself and I&#039;ll happily be playing it until my computer finally dies. Not much beats paradroping into the middle of a beautiful forest from 3000 meters then stealthfully sneaking close enough to snipe people 2000 meters away with a giant sniper rifle or sneaking in and blowning up radio towers with satchel charges ect. BF2 and the like just aren&#039;t realistic enough to make the game interesting to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Psyk You may think so Psyk but I have to disagree because I can&#8217;t do it :P I&#8217;ve been able to upgrade very basic things like putting in new graphics card, upgarding the PSU and adding ram but that is all very basic stuff. Removing the entire mother board and putting a new PCU in it when  I get installed is a much bigger step. I&#8217;m not saying I couldn&#8217;t do it, but I&#8217;m also afraid I&#8217;l destroy the stuff I&#8217;m working with because I&#8217;m a farking idiot ;) Also not sure if whatI&#8217;ve already GOT in my computer will work with the new mother board and make me end up with a new mobo and pcu but a computer that won&#8217;t work with it other wise (Say my hard drive and cd /dvd is so old it won&#8217;t work with newer generations of mother board or my graphics card don&#8217;t like it ect) EVen the cheepest options I&#8217;ve explored cost to much as well. What may be easy and cheep for you isn&#8217;t easy or cheep for me my friend. I&#8217;ve been able to keep my computer playing new games for 8 years but I&#8217;m afraid my computer&#8217;s life span is finally coming to an end, at least for the high end games. I&#8217;ll probably be able to play Indie games and the like for a long while yet, and there is still a massive number of games I can play that I&#8217;ve not gotten around to yet like say the company of heros expansion and bioschock ect. </p>
<p>@DSmart I see what you&#8217;re saying and totally agree with you. With a game like Arm-A 2 I supose they couldn&#8217;t really shoot for a wider auidence by lowering the specs and still get the insane game they&#8217;re shooting for. At some point I supose you just have to cut customers like me loose. The only thing I&#8217;m afraid of for them is that they don&#8217;t have MANY customers to begin with, losing ones with lower spec machines might end up doing them in while they spend more and more money using high end technology for their newer games. Arm-A is a niche game as is , cutting that niche down to even less people can&#8217;t be good for the business model. I could be wrong, maybe I&#8217;m at the extreme outside of the niche or not really even part of the niche at all and just a fluke customer lol. </p>
<p>That being said Arm-A is a fantastic game in and of itself and I&#8217;ll happily be playing it until my computer finally dies. Not much beats paradroping into the middle of a beautiful forest from 3000 meters then stealthfully sneaking close enough to snipe people 2000 meters away with a giant sniper rifle or sneaking in and blowning up radio towers with satchel charges ect. BF2 and the like just aren&#8217;t realistic enough to make the game interesting to me.</p>
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