Comments on: Left 4 Dead 2 – Podcast With Chet Faliszek

By: Erltard

Erltard — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:24:03 +0000

Im going to buy L4D2, no matter what. “The screaming unhappy people” can either stick to something else, or realise this game is great. I enjoyed every moment i played L4D, and i even dug into the stories, behind scenes, and every other thing i can read, see or hear.

My though is that Valve are trying to get something to get their game fans something to chew on while waiting for the meal.
Episode 3 will be released in the future, but not as soon as people want to. Ever tried to create npcs, new enities, or even maps with their engine?
For me it seems alomost impossible, but valve is made of people, not game creating AI computers! They also use THEIR time to create a sdk for L4D to “the hungry people”!
For me, valve is doing a great job, if you feel fooled by their prices, then try to complain, you will not get so far with it anyway.

By: L4D freak xD

L4D freak xD — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:36:59 +0000

I will by this game as fast as it hits the game stores.

By: CeZ

CeZ — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:44:22 +0000

@ Fan

Ditto! I really can’t see myself connecting with the new characters…

And as much as I love the idea of a sequel, I think incendiary ammo is a stupid idea, however thats just my personal opinion.

As for entertainment to price value, L4D is, has been and will be (at least for a while longer), my most played and enjoyed game on console, even with the supposed “lack of content” so if they want to go ahead and make a sequel that they will continue updating instead or as well as L4D 1, it’s their choice… and i’m pretty sure most of those complaining about l4d2 will end up buying it anyway… I know I will.

And I’d like to thank Valve for L4D one (Amazing game) and L4D2 (in advance so please don’t screw it up!) :)

By: Gap Gen

Gap Gen — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:42:21 +0000

Cutty? Hells yes.

By: Snozz

Snozz — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:53:31 +0000

I didn’t really know what to think after hearing about L4D2 I think it’s a bit to soon to make a sequel, some more info from valve about what they plan on doing about L4D1 would be nice, as they were apparently going to make new maps and give new guns. If they decided to just make a full new game instead of an update of L4D1 i don’t mind as long as they integrate L4D1 into L4D2 so online you can play all 9 maps and pick from 8 characters, if they do this i won’t complain.

By: Jetsetlemming

Jetsetlemming — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:53:40 +0000

That podcast was very informative.
Honestly though, my biggest problem is that I can’t play L4D right now on this computer, and I’m afraid that I’ll get into L4D when I can just in time to see it completely die out. I wanna play around in the PA campaigns before I move south! :(
I’m hoping that Valve includes L4D1 with L4D2. After 2’s release the first game will be pretty much worthless, after all, and having it included for L4D2 owners will make setting up a party of friends to go play the old stuff much easier, long after the general players are gone.

By: EyeMessiah

EyeMessiah — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:25:01 +0000

Sainsburys? You shmuck. I’m winging it straight to M&S and bolting the door behind me. I will then endeavour to eat all the very fine cheese cake and olives before the zombies catch up with me.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:45:15 +0000

Left4Dead broke some new ground in co-op games, and yes we’ve all got lots of hours of gameplay out of it (hell it’s a good game). But none of that is the point.

The point is most of us paid full price for a game that turned out not to deliver the content it promised, and the content that WAS provided was full of bugs. Many of these problems have still not been fixed.

The point is that Valve took our money, but delivered a game that is substandard.

I have no doubt that L4D2 will rock. It will be fun and I will play just as many hours of it. That’s not the point either. The point is that Valve have not supported their existing customers very well with the L4D title.

They figured they can make more money by concentrating on a new game, than they can by updating the existing one. L4D1 has been neglected.

I don’t personally think DLC or content updates are as important, but releasing a good quality product IS important. If it’s not good quality on release, then I think customers are entitled to free updates to bring the game up to standard.

The DLC Survival mode for me did not add anything at all to L4D. They should have spend the dev time making the existing game work properly.

The bottom line for me is… Killing Floor is more fun, so I’m sticking with that for now!

[edit] I really should have posted that in the other thread! oops! ;-)

By: Bigolslabomeat

Bigolslabomeat — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:29:10 +0000

I’ve always said that come the zombie apocalypse, I’m heading to Sainsbury’s and what does Chet think? “Head to the supermarket and hole up there”. If there is a man who knows what to do when the inevitable zombie hordes come, it’s Chet.

I enjoyed that immensely, good work chaps, and Chet seems a very nice bloke.

By: Man Raised By Puffins

Man Raised By Puffins — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:22:16 +0000

Good podcast, cheers chaps.

Still not in the slightest bit interested in either of Valve’s zombie shooters, rather I’m hoping this reveal doesn’t preclude Valve from showing any morsels of Ep3 or Portal 2 at E3, but it’s always fun when some of the more amusing nodules of the RPS and Valve hiveminds are manacled together and forced to produce auditory delights.

By: Kadayi

Kadayi — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:54:26 +0000

@See my response in the other thread.

By: Thomas Lawrence

Thomas Lawrence — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:36:14 +0000

Building a brand, and building expectations to go with that brand, is what comapines do. People are sensitive to those expectations and make purchasing decisions accordingly. That’s basic marketing!

A lot of people bought into expectations which it now seems Valve isn’t going to fulfil. A sense of betrayal is entirely understandable – indeed, Valve should be pleased that their brand is so strong that people had the expectations in the first place.

Of course, having now been disappointed, some people may not buy so readily into the Valve brand any more. And that’s fine. Valve evidently felt the damage to their brand was worth it.

The sequel sounds great and I’ll probably buy it. But writing off people’s responses to branding as fanboy entitlement is kind of a strange way to look at marketing. Expectations are useful.