By Alec Meer on June 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pm.
There isn’t much love for most of the MGS series in Castle Shotgun, but of course it has its fans and they’re totally entitled to that, regardless of the fact that we’ll eventually round them up and drown them all in the river. The news that the upcoming new’un, MGS: Rising – which apparently stars some half-robot ladyboy or something – is departing its traditional Sony-only shores for the PC (360 too) is a little surprising, though. I don’t believe we’ve had a Metal Gear since a port of number 2 yonks ago, so it’s odd for it to suddenly come back now.
I guess Rising is a new age for the series, seeing as it doesn’t star Solid Snake this time around and lacks a number in the title (I insist on giving it one nevertheless, because I’m an idiothole like that). All that cutscene jaffery might well drive me spare, but it’s always a happy day when the PC gets treated to something it’s normally denied. We don’t get much Konami stuff around these parts, so hopefully this is the first of many. Some footage’n'that below, if you’re curious.
That means literally almost nothing to me. Apparently Raiden… is baaaaaack, however. One of these days I should probably just head over to Wikipedia and work out what the hell MGS’ labyrinthine plot is about now, but frankly I’m a little scared to do so.
05/06/2009 at 18:08 Taill4f4r says:
Was he expecting a reaction to no Solid Snake? I felt bad for him. :/
05/06/2009 at 18:19 O.DOGG says:
I’m quite excited that this one is coming to the PC shores. Been a fan of the series for many years and I might get a PS3 just to play the fourth one.
It seems to me the PC has been getting some love from publishers with many other games being ported over as well. Looks like someone is finally learning that the PC is a profitable platform.
05/06/2009 at 18:22 Gap Gen says:
Raiden? Baaaaaack? But how?!
24/02/2012 at 17:59 Ruffian says:
he’s some kinda ninja killbot now.
05/06/2009 at 18:26 Dominic White says:
I’m expecting this to be a very different take on the MGS series. Raiden is a full-on cyborg ninja now, of the ‘ruins armies of tank-sized robots in seconds’ variety, rather than ‘sneaks past guards and stabs the occasional guy’ sort.
Should be fun. Even better that it’s coming to PC.
05/06/2009 at 18:26 bitkari says:
Not sure if want
[insert appropriate comic animal jpg here]
05/06/2009 at 18:28 Bhazor says:
Awww, poor Kojima was expecting a bigger response at the start. But he’s seriously trying to make Raiden into a character that isn’t hateful.
As for PC version? Well a new huge budget game in the shops isn’t going to do any harm.
But will someone please get him a decent editor, you could hack out about 35-55% of the MGS 4 cutscenes without losing any actual character development or plot.
Also “Lightning Bolt Action”? Are we sure this won’t just be a weird spin off like Acid?
05/06/2009 at 18:28 Benny says:
Im not sure but i have a feeling that the robot lady person is actually a robot guy person. But then it is japanese and they have to accomadate for all those crazy girls and their Yaoi…
05/06/2009 at 18:32 jsutcliffe says:
I haven’t played this series since MGS 2, but I enjoyed that one greatly even with the horribly mangled PC controls (psst Konami — we have these “mouse” things we can aim with) and I love stealth games, so I’ll be interested to see how this goes.
I also echo the sentiments welcoming console-type titles to the PC. I hope this trend continues. Last Remnant and Dead Space have been satisfying my gaming needs lately.
05/06/2009 at 18:33 EyeMessiah says:
Lucky man. She’s a honey.
05/06/2009 at 18:38 Psychopomp says:
I, for one, welcome our LIGHTING BOLT ACTION overlords.
05/06/2009 at 18:38 Nick says:
Adam & Joe reference?
05/06/2009 at 18:41 Simon Jones says:
I quite enjoyed MGS 1 back in the day, as it was a good, simple stealth game with a fun mechanic. Although I seem to recall even then finding the story absolutely laughable.
MGS 2 I only managed to get about an hour into, however, due to the really odd cutscene/gameplay balance. If the cutscenes and story were of a decent quality it might have been worthwhile, but if I’m going to watch badly written b-movie fare I’d rather it only last an hour and a half and start someon like Bruce Campbell.
There series seemed to fold in on itself in an astonishingly self-indulgent manner and I haven’t really paid much attention to it since. Maybe I’m doing the creator a disservice, and perhaps he’s got better with later installments, but he generally seems like a dodgy filmmaker that’s accidentally ended up making games instead.
05/06/2009 at 18:44 waffles says:
Im guessing “lightning bolt action” means this will play like that dream sequence in MGS3.
Also, i think there’s a summary of the entire MGS plot in narrated cutscenes or something alec, which is good for a plane trip or two.
05/06/2009 at 18:45 nabeel says:
I’m happy about it, at least. I don’t own any recent consoles but I’ve always liked the MGS series.
05/06/2009 at 18:45 jalf says:
Haha, love the *one* person clapping at the end of that clip… :D
I’ve never ever played a MGS game, so perhaps this is going to be my entrance to the series… Of course, she (assuming Raiden is a girl, which I wouldn’t know) does look better than Solid Snake, so it has my approval.
05/06/2009 at 18:48 Psychopomp says:
Raiden…
Raiden is a man.
Don’t worry, Kojima very aware of how feminine Raiden looks. There’s even one scene in two where a man goes to molest “her”, only to say “YOU’RE A MAN?”
05/06/2009 at 18:56 Markoff Chaney says:
I loved the first MGS. Then Splinter Cell pretty much beat it over its head a bit after MGS2 showed it really wasn’t all that and I left for darker sneaking cornes, nary to look back. Seeing as this one makes it to the PC though, I might pick it back up, gameplay permitting. Good to see that we are getting quite a bit more of the console titles, even if the new Castelvania isn’t probably coming our way…
05/06/2009 at 18:57 Crane says:
@Psychopomp: “There’s even one scene in two where a man goes to molest “her”, only to say “YOU’RE A MAN?””
I fail to see why this is reason not to worry.
Also, just FYI RPS, this isn’t actually MGS5. It’s a sorta spinoff thingy, not the fifth main game.
05/06/2009 at 19:02 Freudian Trip says:
MGS2 was my first true ‘import’ game in that I went to New York and bought it and took it home, installed it, found out I couldn’t use the mouse then realised that it didn’t tell you if 2 of your buttons conflicted so my shoot button caused me to attack the nasty masked man then lay on the floor. I never got off the boat.
I imagine this one will play much better [than MGS2] on the PC. MGS4 (from what little I’ve seen) looked more like a 3rd person action game.
05/06/2009 at 19:05 Dominic White says:
I’m fairly sure that there won’t BE a Metal Gear Solid 5, what with Solid Snake being in no state to sneak anywhere as of the end of MGS4.
But that’s fine. It’s time for a new character and a new direction, and it looks like they’re going for high-speed violence with Raiden this time round, which is fine by me.
Kojimas last fast-action game, Zone of the Enders 2, was *excellent*, so I have faith in the guy.
05/06/2009 at 19:08 Tom says:
What’s with the hate for Metal Gear Solid? I thought they were excellent games! Don’t tell me you hate Final Fantasy too?? :(
05/06/2009 at 19:09 Tom says:
(that was an abysmal trailer though)
05/06/2009 at 19:20 Hermit says:
@Jalf
1. It’s a man.
2. Specifically, it’s this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RcOkwys57Y
I played through MGS2 and thought it wasn’t a patch on the first one, and I couldn’t get into MGS3 at all. Never happy with a game which puts action I could be controlling into cutscenes.
05/06/2009 at 19:30 Will Tomas says:
Why won’t the angry PS fans just let Koijima be? The number of times he’s tried to quit making these games, and the number of times he ends up being dragged back in is just depressing.
I suspect his sporadic ennui with the whole thing is why it ended up a postmodern parody of itself. But I agree about the cutscenes.
05/06/2009 at 19:33 SteveHatesYou says:
Metal Gear Solid: Rising is a very clumsy title. Why didn’t they just call it Metal Gear Raiden? The title change would make sense, since this is supposed to be a departure from the main series.
05/06/2009 at 19:37 Awkwardness says:
Felt sorry for the guy at the beginning too. Reminds me of when Jet Li was on Leno and the audience didn’t laugh when he was making jokes. And it sounded like there was one person clapping at the end.
Trailer is meh. No gameplay. Creepy old guy saying “Rising” is creepy.
05/06/2009 at 19:40 Ian says:
PC needs more interactive movies like Metal Gear Solid.
05/06/2009 at 19:42 pkt-zer0 says:
ZoE2 was excellent because Kojima had little to do with it.
And on that note, more ZoE, less Metal Gear spinoff thingies please. A new Snatcher would be fine, too.
05/06/2009 at 19:42 Hoernchen says:
“half-robot ladyboy” – nicely said, sir. No idea what a raiden is, but yay, a game ! A pc game !
05/06/2009 at 19:50 Pavel says:
I will never forgive Kojima for not bringing MGS 3 and 4 to PC.I love the first two games on PC.
05/06/2009 at 19:51 DSX says:
Going to chalk this up as “worst lazy developer console port of 2010″ already, sight unseen.
05/06/2009 at 19:55 TheSombreroKid says:
I will never forgive Kojima for learning to breathe.
05/06/2009 at 19:58 Dominic White says:
Now this is just getting silly. When a PC flagship title (lets use, say, Half-Life 2 as an example) comes to consoles, it’s hailed with cheers and joy.
When a massively popular console flagship series comes to PC? Outright dismissal or even bubbling anger.
05/06/2009 at 20:00 Joseph says:
Yeah I really hope they do a proper PC version and not the worst port ever made like for MGS2.
05/06/2009 at 20:00 subedii says:
Everyone’s already talked about the series trademark overlong cutscenes, so I’ll skip that.
I played and enjoyed MGS 1 on the PC (well, PS1 at first, bought it on PC later). Despite the melodrama it was a pretty entertaining game, Kojima knows how to work a set piece or boss fight.
MGS 2 though, well… that game was just bizarre in every category you’d care to mention. Where MGS tried to tell a largely self-contained action-espionage story, MGS2 went out there, way, way out there with its plot, introducing a hundred different threads all spinning around each other, gossamer strings knotting themselves into a tangled ball that just left us with more questions than answers by the end. The game’s penchant for breaking the fourth wall wouldn’t have been so bad except it did so at really bizarre times so you were never really sure (or at least I wasn’t) which parts were just self-referential parody and which were supposed to be actual parts of the plot.
*Minor Spoiler explanation follows*
The game is basically set inside a virtual “simulation”, but as far as I could tell, it was never made clear just what aspects were or weren’t part of that simulation, or even when the simulation took over from the “real” gameplay events. When you add in breaking the fourth wall you’ve really got no clue what’s going on.
*End Spoilers*
From what I understand MGS 3 was the best in the series and much more understandable, and MGS 4 worked hard to resolve everything that was left unexplained in number 2.
Personally I’m not so sure about jumping into the series again. In some ways the series still knows how to show us cool stuff, but it’s usually way overburdened with overlong cutscenes and melodrama masquerading as poignancy. On the other hand, if the gameplay’s solid, then it could still be fun, in a cheesy way.
EDIT: Dominic White: This really hasn’t got anything to do with console / PC superiority. MGS may be a flagship title for Sony, but frankly, the series has a lot of problems that are usually glossed over in the PS3 magazine reviews largely because it’s marked as THE platform exclusive. Multi-platform magazines mostly said it was an OK game but not really a timeless classic, and it certainly had its issues, really more of a “love it or hate it” kind of game.
Or to put it another way, despite every hardcore PS3 fanboy declaring it the game of the year, you didn’t find it claiming that spot in many places. Just because it’s a flagship title doesn’t automatically make it a great one. So the series is coming to the PC. That’s good, really. But to be honest, I was more excited when Devil May Cry 4 got ported. Sheer cheese aside, it was a fun game to play, where MGS I can have fun with, but I’m usually fighting the game half the time in order to do so.
05/06/2009 at 20:35 JonFitt says:
So Trapjaw has a daughter?
Played through MGS1. Way too much self-indulgent waffle surrounding a good sneaking game, with terrible shooting.
05/06/2009 at 20:38 Blast Hardcheese says:
Actually Alec, like Mario, Metal Gear Solid has a bajillion games that never came to the West. So it’d be more like MGS:15.
Well, Mario is an overstatement. That has over one hundred games.
05/06/2009 at 20:42 whalleywhat says:
A lot of you guys are misreading that Kojima intro, at least imo. I thought it was more of his trolling, like “Yeah, you guys are getting an MGS game, but it stars pretty ass Raiden, hated by comically insecure gamers all over the world.”
05/06/2009 at 20:44 Mike says:
This game will be a pretty standard action game I suspect. Kojima said in the PS3 conference that MGS: Peace Walker was the continuation of the storyline.
I implore everyone who hasn’t tried 4 to give it a shot. It’s one of the best games ever – but only if you like the idea of an interactive film.
05/06/2009 at 20:45 Dozer says:
He’s baaaack, and he’s got a new trick
Magical Raiden is ten times as slick as the last time
The last time you saw him
Now you can see why we really adore him
You might think his new trick is sick
Sawing a pigeon in half with a stick
Look at the pigeon, now it’s in two
Oh my its rear end is having a poo
Look at the mess
In Aisle 2
Aisle 2
That’s the place where we store the ragu
There’s so much ragu
They should make that the title track. Or I’ll set fire to Japan.
05/06/2009 at 20:59 Kohlstream says:
What are the chances of a PC port of MGS4? Even if it was horribly optimised id buy it.
05/06/2009 at 21:05 Charlie says:
Yes I hate MGS and final fantasy.
05/06/2009 at 21:28 Sam says:
This one should be good. I have MGS4 and it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played period. It was pretty much worth getting PS3 just for that game alone. I never played any other Metal Gear games, so don’t know much about Raiden’s history, but he appeared in the 4th part a bunch of times and is a really cool character.
05/06/2009 at 21:53 Reverend Speed says:
Storywise? Gameplaywise?
MGS pisses on DeusEx from the greatest possible height.
Thank you Mr. Kojima. I hungrily await PacMan:RISING for the PC.
That isssssssssssssssssssssssssssss all.
05/06/2009 at 21:56 Tom says:
Prolly give it a whirl.
You never know.
Might actually be good.
Shows Sony what a massive balls up the PS3′s been.
05/06/2009 at 21:59 Hajimete no Paso Kon says:
Castle Shotgun.
Amazing.
05/06/2009 at 22:03 Lack_26 says:
If you need some help with the rounding up and drowning just ask, I’m happy to help.
05/06/2009 at 22:12 Bhazor says:
Don’t hate Raiden just because he looks like a gay Geralt who joined a boy band.
Hate him because he’s one of the thickest characters in videogame history. Honestly, how many times did Otacon have to explain “Metal Gear?!?” to him? Then theres the fact he starts to go all Marty McFly towards the end of MGS2 about his hot computer simulated double agent wife. Nudey cartwheels do not help the matter.
But really I think the infamy comes from his replacing Snake and his entourage and also the fact that his section of MGS2 was terribly laid out and confusing compared to Snakes half of the game.
05/06/2009 at 22:38 Miker says:
@Bhazor
Raiden’s section of the game was about 95% of said game. Not sayin’ it’s good or bad, just sayin’
05/06/2009 at 22:41 hitnrun says:
@SteveHatesYou
Agreed. Or how about, “Metal Gear Rising?” The naming conventions aren’t going to help with marketing. There’s only so much abstract lingo people are willing to follow.
Speaking of which, I mark the exact moment when the MGS series jumped the shark to be when Snake looks up at Ocelot on the tanker and the hand starts talking. Before that point, the series was an excellent soldier-spy ride with a gripping, if slightly weird at times, plot. From that point on, the series is a surreal mix of the literally unbelievable, the blandly predictable, and the incomprehensible. “I don’t get it” quickly becomes “I don’t want it.”
(If you haven’t played the games, don’t mind the spoiler, it’s doesn’t make any more sense to watch than it does to read.)
05/06/2009 at 22:57 Sonic Goo says:
I would go for ‘Solid Snake Rising’. Just to complete the imagery.
05/06/2009 at 23:08 Bear says:
The “Lightning Bolt Action” still cracks me up everytime.
06/06/2009 at 00:39 JKjoker says:
yet another game developer with a franchise that has always been (or spent some time being) console only coming to PC, whats going on here ? its like they were preparing to leave Sony and MS to die in the desert
also… OMG!, not the sissy idiot that stole MGS2 away from Snake again… -_-
06/06/2009 at 00:46 ReturnToNull says:
It’s not Snatcher, or something new and possibly interesting. Burn Kojima alive!
06/06/2009 at 00:52 malkav11 says:
Two things – first of all, MGS3′s version of Raiden (looks identical, may or may not be related as the storyline confuses me) has apparently been having a hot man-on-man relationship with one of the bosses. So, yeah.
Secondly, I wish the Ac!d games would become the main series franchise. They make even less sense, plotwise, but the adaptation of stealth/action gameplay to a turn-based collectible card RPG is nothing short of inspired. Metal Gear Ac!d 2 in particular is just layers and layers of gaming goodness on one little UMD. Tons of tactical options, tons of variety in the main missions, plus a plethora of optional side missions including out and out puzzles. And for whatever reason “3D” videos. That use a special viewer (included) to generate a rather headache-inducing spatial illusion.
06/06/2009 at 01:56 Blast Hardcheese says:
Malkav as far as I understood that snippet of the story (I only ever got to watch) it was more about Raiden getting man-pwned than him being a man lover. Like a gimp. The gimp may not enjoy THAT, they just enjoy being a gimp. Otherwise why would you do it?
(I’m fairly sure that’s how it goes, anyways.)
06/06/2009 at 02:02 tmp says:
That’s how it read to me too, given pretty fanboyish PS3 attitude in MGS4 and how he then went at length to explain during Sony presser the PSP game will be the only of the new installments he’ll actually work on together with the core team.
He’s saying “Owned” in that opening, just using few more words.
06/06/2009 at 02:18 unique_identifier says:
best opening line ever mr meer.
06/06/2009 at 04:05 malkav11 says:
I won’t swear the Raiden character was into it, but the boss was definitely hinted to have some emotional investment there.
06/06/2009 at 04:14 Psychopomp says:
On one hand, he’s a bishounen as you can get…
On the other hand, he
1.Loses both his arms
2.proceeds to stop a mobile fortress’s movement ,*by himself*
3.Get’s crushed by said fortress
4.*Lives*
5.Fights off armed soldiers with a sword in his teeth
6.He *is* the lightning.
And isn’t that what gaming is all about?
06/06/2009 at 05:04 david says:
Nick says:
Adam & Joe reference?
Stephen!!
06/06/2009 at 06:38 Radiant says:
MGS 1 was brilliant absolutely brilliant.
MGS2 was where Kojima seemed to lose his audience a bit.
3 was fantastic but that was mostly about ‘boss’ battles [geddit?] like Shadow of the Colossus but where you had to kill and eat Agro.
4 was bullshit and I got the feeling Kojima at that point really hated Snake.
4 was like playing a 3rd person shooter but as my granddad.
06/06/2009 at 06:39 Radiant says:
The card game on the PSP MGS: ACID 2 is excellent btw.
06/06/2009 at 07:15 Psychopomp says:
@Radiant
He wanted to do something new after 3
He still does
*No one will let him*
06/06/2009 at 07:50 PC Monster says:
In common with many others above I am pleased the PC is getting more attention but have no great faith that this won’t be a clunky port of the original. I don’t think we should be supporting people who equate ‘game’ with ‘interactive movie’ either.
@Tom: I don’t like MGS or Final Fantasy games either.
Lastly (and I’m sorry if this is turning into a moan – I’m just up out of bed) I’m tired of having to adjust the shape of my mind to fully appreciate the Japanese way of thinking, when if they’re selling products over here it should be them adjusting to ours. I’m still waiting for them to apologise to the world for the utterly pointless Pokemon ‘phenomenon’.
06/06/2009 at 08:53 dash says:
As far as I’m concerned they still owe me a free and working copy of a new MGS game, considering the fact that i’ve spent 46€ on a broken and half assed PC port of MGS2 back then which was never fixed…
06/06/2009 at 09:11 Hybridens says:
lightning bolt action?????
06/06/2009 at 10:52 Dominic White says:
My main worry about any port here is that the controls won’t carry other. MGS4 uses every analogue button on the pad – even the pressure-sensitive face ones AND the motion sensor features.
There’s no way in hell to replicate that control setup on a PC, short of custom PS3 pad drivers.
I’m less worried about the general quality of the port, and more the straight-up impossibility of replicating the control method. Again, just reminding people that EVERY button on the PS3 pad is analogue. In a driving game, you can bind ‘accelerate’ to, say, the X button and the harder you press, the faster you’ll go.
And Konami games in particular are really good at exploiting this feature. I remember a couple of weapons in Zone of the Enders 2 that would drastically change depending on pressure, like a machinegun that would act as a wide suppression/stun weapon if pressed hard, but a tight beam of high powered energy if pressed lightly.
06/06/2009 at 11:21 Xercies says:
Ninja Gaiden ripoff.
06/06/2009 at 11:31 dash says:
@Dominic White
This button sensitivity problem was addressed with introduction of “half press” button in MGS2 PC. If you wanted to half-press button X on PC, you had to press 2 buttons: the “half press”+X LOL.
It wasn’t a perfect solution, but hey, it did work. ^^’
06/06/2009 at 11:33 Kommissar Nicko says:
I find it interesting that they’d try and go back to Raiden, who was pretty universally hated, instead of trying to return to the setting in Snake Eater and do the whole gritty Cold War bit. By moving into prequel mode, they easily avoid the nonsensical “WHAT A TWIST!” kind of bullshit that’s par for the course in MGS 1, 2, and 4.
All that aside, I still eat Metal Gear?!?!?!?!!! up with a fucking spoon anyway. Snake is just a hard-boiled badass with as much personality as a rusty saw, and I feel good about it. That, and my style of play (murder everyone in sight) would be tremendously complimented by a mouse, so I’m mildly interested in what Raiden might have to offer, knowing full well that it’s going to be nothing but 24/7 SORD FITAN and I’ll feel like I’ve been kicked in the balls.
This is all very depressing actually.
06/06/2009 at 11:38 not the rob with a pony says:
Just coming!
06/06/2009 at 11:46 Dominic White says:
I’m fairly sure Raiden stopped being universally hated in MGS4, when he came back as a grizzled veteran, and a full-body cyborg with a metal jaw and the ability to keep fighting after losing both his arms and most of his freaky white cyborg blood.
Now that’s something I’d like to see become a play mechanic. You can keep on fighting so long as you’ve got at least one functioning limb and a little juice still in you.
06/06/2009 at 12:42 Salem5 says:
I can tell you how the storywriting for MG goes since it started on the NES:
First, lay an empty sheet on your desk. Then put a finger in your throat. Keep pushing that finger in until you release your ‘stream’ of output. Watch that every cm^2 is covered on that sheet, then send it to Konami in a waterproof envelope.
I’ve given up on the Story from MGS to MGS2.
06/06/2009 at 13:02 Dan says:
Raiden from Mortal Kombat is in Metal Gear Solid? Waaaa?
06/06/2009 at 13:32 subedii says:
i didn’t mind Raiden. He was the wet behind the ears rookie, but that’s what he was supposed to be.
What was annoying was Rose and her constant whiny relationship meanderings whilst Raiden’s trying to get on with the mission. It was pretty weird.
06/06/2009 at 13:33 Smurfy says:
At the end there’s only one person clapping.
06/06/2009 at 14:46 R. says:
Tmp has it right – the whole thing is a brilliant bit of trolling by Kojima, finally giving the 360 crowd a Metal Gear game only for it to star arguably the most unpopular character in the series, especially with said 360 crowd (though to be fair, he was a truckload more awesome in MGS4, possibly even more so than poor old Snake).
All that said, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it turned out to be a brand new Raiden and not Jack from the previous games. The evidence is purely speculative and not so much thin but anorexic but even by Raiden standards, that render is absurdly feminine and whoever it is has brown eyes. Even in MGS4 in full on cyborg ninja form, Jack-Raiden kept his baby blue eyes.
Too long, didn’t read – there’s a chance this game could actually be about cute little moppet Sunny from MGS4, all grown up and imitating her hero Raiden. Which would somewhat fucked up but that’s Kojima for you, the mad little bastard.
06/06/2009 at 18:36 apnea says:
Japanese game is japanese.
Less generalizingly, the big game franchises from Japan seem to have great difficulty not jumping the shark into bonker and gratuitous fan-service territory recently. Such games can sometimes be fairly decent on a gameplay level, but I can’t shake the impression that, thematically, I’m playing something aimed at a very narrow segment of people of which I am definitely not a part. The MGS series is paradigmatic in this sense. I’ll pass.
06/06/2009 at 19:20 Ergates says:
@Bhazor “But he’s seriously trying to make Raiden into a character that isn’t hateful.”
Heres a suggestion then. Get someone else to write the plot. And all the dialogue.
MGS3 is clearly the best of the series. But largely because you can kill and eat pretty much everything you encounter. Then have conversations about what it tastes like.
Someone really should explain to Kojima the difference between “complex” and “incoherent”.
06/06/2009 at 19:44 Wisq says:
To everyone pointing out there’s only one person clapping (I count three)… I strongly suspect that was just the presenter guy clapping at a guest appearance, like they tend to do.
The bigger question is, why isn’t the audience clapping at all? (Assuming they weren’t under instructions not to.) Shock?
Frankly, I thought MGS2 was decent, MGS3 was quite good, and I probably won’t ever play MGS4 unless it comes to PC or Wii. The PS2 was great, but I just don’t have any interest in today’s consoles.
06/06/2009 at 20:21 Wooly says:
“The bigger question is, why isn’t the audience clapping at all? (Assuming they weren’t under instructions not to.) Shock?”
I believe that would be horror.
06/06/2009 at 20:51 Psychopomp says:
“I’m tired of having to adjust the shape of my mind to fully appreciate the Japanese way of thinking, when if they’re selling products over here it should be them adjusting to ours.”
Don’t even get me started how much it doesn’t work that way. If you don’t like the japanese way of thinking *don’t but their games.*
Your path is a dangerous path, where Russian art is de-bleaked for the west, Britcoms are changed for an american audience, ect. ect.
The japanese have a culture different from your own, how you feel about that is *your* problem, not theirs.
06/06/2009 at 21:09 Dominic White says:
Yeah, to anyone complaining about Japanese games being too Japanese, I’d just like to remind you of this:
http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/features/history/red-dwarf-usa/
That is what happens when you try to ‘reimagine’ something for a new audience. And let’s not even get into Japanese horror movies which Hollywood thought would be improved through the addition of Sarah Michelle Gellar.
It’s one thing to say that you don’t enjoy stuff, but another to demand that they recreate it to fit your personal preferences.
Maybe to reach out to a more Global (see ‘American’) audience, RPS should be less British?
06/06/2009 at 21:37 Bret says:
No, it should be more stereotypically British. Monocles, top hats, stiff upper lip, etc.
And cross cultural adaptations have worked fine. American Office: perfectly decent show. Stanford and Son: Also fine.
And if you hate Elite Beat Agents, well, you can just go into a hole and die.
06/06/2009 at 23:02 Funky Badger says:
MGS3 was great – any game where you can win a boss fight by waiting for your enemy to die of old age gets a double thumbs up from me.
07/06/2009 at 01:55 Psychopomp says:
@Bret
Thing is, no one is going to mistake Elite Bear Agents for american.
07/06/2009 at 17:40 Andre says:
They should port over the best one: MGS3.
08/06/2009 at 12:50 Abs says:
The 60s cold war setting for a Metal Gear game was perfect.
Although MGS4 is pretty epic, MGS3 remains my fav.
A PC port would be smashing (although very late). With the MP as well please!
13/06/2009 at 14:52 Arash says:
Personally, I’ve never understood the level of hate directed at Raiden. Then again, I’ve probably seen more than my share of anime and I loathed Epic’s Beefy Dude Stereotypes ™.
I’d have happily paid for more MGS4 – playable levels or even more of the good old fashioned VR challenges; it was a lovely game with sadly not enough… ahem… game in there.
13/08/2009 at 22:49 Darren says:
this is not made by kojima, it will be made by americans, which will mean that it will suck. this isnt MGS5. and MGS5 is yet to come but i’m sure it will be PS3 exclusive and Snake will eventually be recloned again
24/02/2012 at 18:05 Ruffian says:
I honestly couldn’t be happier with this news. I thought I was gonna have to dust off my crapbox to slice some mothers up as ole Jacky boy. I looooooove katana action games (ninja gaiden is the only recent one that comes to mind), and I can’t help but think/hope Kojima will do it right. Now all they need to do is bring Ninja Gaiden 3 to pc and I’ll be a very happy little gamer. There’s something really satisfying to me about flying towards my enemies dodging their bullets left and right, and then slicing them to ribbons in the most efficient way possible.
And yes the studio that made Bayonetta is developing it, but Kojima definitely still has a hand in it. Also I never played MGS4, seeing as it was a PS3 exclusive, was it really that bad?