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	<title>Comments on: RPS At E3: Dragon Age &#8211; Origins</title>
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		<title>By: Sirbolt</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/10/rps-at-e3-dragon-age-origins/comment-page-4/#comment-404428</link>
		<dc:creator>Sirbolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because &quot;real RPG players&quot; really like jRPG&#039;s! Amirite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because &#8220;real RPG players&#8221; really like jRPG&#8217;s! Amirite?</p>
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		<title>By: Soy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A horrible HORRIBLE game. only to be liked if you&#039;re a fanboy who&#039;s obviously blind to this game&#039;s tediousness, last gen graphics, stale characters and milked out story. 

20 bucks at frickin best. charging full retail for this... &#039;game&#039;  is a CRIME. This game should be given out for free to excuse it&#039;s own badness, giving us REAL rpg players something to laugh about when a true rpg comes out that&#039;ll be worth every penny like FF13!!! It will blow this game away and taunt in it&#039;s underdeveloped, created by a ponytailed living with his mom douchebag creators - face</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A horrible HORRIBLE game. only to be liked if you&#8217;re a fanboy who&#8217;s obviously blind to this game&#8217;s tediousness, last gen graphics, stale characters and milked out story. </p>
<p>20 bucks at frickin best. charging full retail for this&#8230; &#8216;game&#8217;  is a CRIME. This game should be given out for free to excuse it&#8217;s own badness, giving us REAL rpg players something to laugh about when a true rpg comes out that&#8217;ll be worth every penny like FF13!!! It will blow this game away and taunt in it&#8217;s underdeveloped, created by a ponytailed living with his mom douchebag creators &#8211; face</p>
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		<title>By: Wooly</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/10/rps-at-e3-dragon-age-origins/comment-page-3/#comment-207285</link>
		<dc:creator>Wooly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the E3 demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1VBRe3XTYk

After watching that, I think most of the complaints listed in this thread are absolutely ridiculous and baseless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the E3 demo:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1VBRe3XTYk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1VBRe3XTYk</a></p>
<p>After watching that, I think most of the complaints listed in this thread are absolutely ridiculous and baseless.</p>
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		<title>By: Snuffles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snuffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!
A spiritual successor to Bauldur&#039;s Gate my ass! Don&#039;t get me wrong, Mass Effect was fantastic, and KOTOR wasn&#039;t all that bad either. Bioware should be making fantastic games! But I mean come on; this title has generic-uninspired rpg written all over it. I won&#039;t lie, my expectations were pretty low from the start. No cooperative play = a dick move if you ask me. The name is generic. This idea of a blight bearing down on humanity sounds like something ripped out of a Robert Jordan novel. But maybe I&#039;m being unfair. I need to be honest with myself here: I&#039;m expecting too much of Bioware.  Mass Effect and KOTOR were good because their stories were good; the characters and the settings were really well crafted. In both cases, the gameplay was quite frankly lacking. But I didn&#039;t mind because I knew after I got through the combat there would be more amazing story-telling. Dragon Age won&#039;t have that; the gameplay will be garbage, and the story-telling will be abysmal. I say this not only because I&#039;m bitter about the lack of cooperative multiplay, but because from what I&#039;ve seen so far, that WILL be the case. I don&#039;t care whether or not the game is good, but I&#039;d rather that it were. I want to be wrong; and when the day comes, and the game is launched, if it pretty good, you all can all glare at me and say &quot;I toll&#039;ja so.&quot; ; /</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!<br />
A spiritual successor to Bauldur&#8217;s Gate my ass! Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Mass Effect was fantastic, and KOTOR wasn&#8217;t all that bad either. Bioware should be making fantastic games! But I mean come on; this title has generic-uninspired rpg written all over it. I won&#8217;t lie, my expectations were pretty low from the start. No cooperative play = a dick move if you ask me. The name is generic. This idea of a blight bearing down on humanity sounds like something ripped out of a Robert Jordan novel. But maybe I&#8217;m being unfair. I need to be honest with myself here: I&#8217;m expecting too much of Bioware.  Mass Effect and KOTOR were good because their stories were good; the characters and the settings were really well crafted. In both cases, the gameplay was quite frankly lacking. But I didn&#8217;t mind because I knew after I got through the combat there would be more amazing story-telling. Dragon Age won&#8217;t have that; the gameplay will be garbage, and the story-telling will be abysmal. I say this not only because I&#8217;m bitter about the lack of cooperative multiplay, but because from what I&#8217;ve seen so far, that WILL be the case. I don&#8217;t care whether or not the game is good, but I&#8217;d rather that it were. I want to be wrong; and when the day comes, and the game is launched, if it pretty good, you all can all glare at me and say &#8220;I toll&#8217;ja so.&#8221; ; /</p>
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		<title>By: Hmm-hmm.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmm-hmm.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah. It looks like the whole idea of (appearing) a deep, complex world with similar characters got squashed by other concerns such as the strategic part and how to bed as many females as possible. The problem with that is that (to me) a crappy world and story make for a crappy rpg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah. It looks like the whole idea of (appearing) a deep, complex world with similar characters got squashed by other concerns such as the strategic part and how to bed as many females as possible. The problem with that is that (to me) a crappy world and story make for a crappy rpg.</p>
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		<title>By: Karsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before Baldur&#039;s Gate, and maybe even before Shattered Steel, Ray and Greg (co-founders of Bioware) did ahve game called Battleground Infinity. It was an RTS, changed into the RPG we all know and love as Baldur&#039;s Gate today.

My great guess is that Dragon Age: Origins actually does have the story, or at least some of the story, Battleground Infinity should have. And now they have the technology to make the game, they want to make. 

And yes, even Baldur&#039;s Gate could be very bloody, if you didn&#039;t turn down the gore option or turned it off completely, like I did. The thing is, though, that characters exploding og being hacked to pieces by a sword in 460X640 pixels don&#039;t look as bloody or gory as characters being hacked to death (in the game, I mean) in high 1280X1024 or higher resolution.

As a regular at the Bioware forums, the developers have said that the you need to play at least 30+ hours to maybe get the option to bed down with Morrigan after giving her a book. And no, she doesn&#039;t just hop into bed with because you&#039;re giving her a book...

I&#039;m concerned about two things for this game a) the marketing and b) the fact that we&#039;re apparently playing an elite soldier, a sort of equivalent (similar to) of the Navy Seals in the US military being send on a mission to raise an army that can combat an end? the blight....

For a) goes that I find the marketing horrible; it might attract new players, but how many old ones will Bioware lose in this process? And many new players will probably think it is like Diablo or Call of Duty where you just run around doing missions, killing things...

And they will complain, and feel cheated....

And rightly so, I find...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before Baldur&#8217;s Gate, and maybe even before Shattered Steel, Ray and Greg (co-founders of Bioware) did ahve game called Battleground Infinity. It was an RTS, changed into the RPG we all know and love as Baldur&#8217;s Gate today.</p>
<p>My great guess is that Dragon Age: Origins actually does have the story, or at least some of the story, Battleground Infinity should have. And now they have the technology to make the game, they want to make. </p>
<p>And yes, even Baldur&#8217;s Gate could be very bloody, if you didn&#8217;t turn down the gore option or turned it off completely, like I did. The thing is, though, that characters exploding og being hacked to pieces by a sword in 460X640 pixels don&#8217;t look as bloody or gory as characters being hacked to death (in the game, I mean) in high 1280X1024 or higher resolution.</p>
<p>As a regular at the Bioware forums, the developers have said that the you need to play at least 30+ hours to maybe get the option to bed down with Morrigan after giving her a book. And no, she doesn&#8217;t just hop into bed with because you&#8217;re giving her a book&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned about two things for this game a) the marketing and b) the fact that we&#8217;re apparently playing an elite soldier, a sort of equivalent (similar to) of the Navy Seals in the US military being send on a mission to raise an army that can combat an end? the blight&#8230;.</p>
<p>For a) goes that I find the marketing horrible; it might attract new players, but how many old ones will Bioware lose in this process? And many new players will probably think it is like Diablo or Call of Duty where you just run around doing missions, killing things&#8230;</p>
<p>And they will complain, and feel cheated&#8230;.</p>
<p>And rightly so, I find&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just saying it was as prominent part in the older game, to the point where it was given separate switch in the gameplay preferences marked as such. So the bloody bits in this new installment are hardly &quot;dumbing games down for consoletards&quot; or &quot;ripping off the Witcher&quot; as some put it. (and also hardly &quot;the new shit&quot; as the PR is trying to sell it) Ol&#039; grandpa BG2 could be as tasteless and more, if only the player felt like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just saying it was as prominent part in the older game, to the point where it was given separate switch in the gameplay preferences marked as such. So the bloody bits in this new installment are hardly &#8220;dumbing games down for consoletards&#8221; or &#8220;ripping off the Witcher&#8221; as some put it. (and also hardly &#8220;the new shit&#8221; as the PR is trying to sell it) Ol&#8217; grandpa BG2 could be as tasteless and more, if only the player felt like it.</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tmp, BG2 had gore - but it wasn&#039;t about the gore. Yes if you kill someone with Disintegrate they&#039;ll be turned into dust, or they&#039;ll explode when killed by a crit (actually, that wasn&#039;t in my version of BG2 - possibly because it was the german one. Icewind Dale 2 had the explody-gib-crits though).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tmp, BG2 had gore &#8211; but it wasn&#8217;t about the gore. Yes if you kill someone with Disintegrate they&#8217;ll be turned into dust, or they&#8217;ll explode when killed by a crit (actually, that wasn&#8217;t in my version of BG2 &#8211; possibly because it was the german one. Icewind Dale 2 had the explody-gib-crits though).</p>
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		<title>By: tmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of &quot;zomg, gratuitous blood and violence&quot; -- played BG2 just recently, and it&#039;s right from the beginning hack and slash with swarms of goblins literally exploding into bloody clumps of pixels and cut apart with 2-handers. Much like Fallout with Bloody Mess perk on. Compared to it DA is actually pretty tame, just brings more fidelity to the graphics.

Suspect they&#039;re trying to make &quot;spiritual successor&quot; to a game their target audience simply don&#039;t remember all that well anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of &#8220;zomg, gratuitous blood and violence&#8221; &#8212; played BG2 just recently, and it&#8217;s right from the beginning hack and slash with swarms of goblins literally exploding into bloody clumps of pixels and cut apart with 2-handers. Much like Fallout with Bloody Mess perk on. Compared to it DA is actually pretty tame, just brings more fidelity to the graphics.</p>
<p>Suspect they&#8217;re trying to make &#8220;spiritual successor&#8221; to a game their target audience simply don&#8217;t remember all that well anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: dhex</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The people who were in there at the same time as me actually cheered and applauded when they showed off the sex scene.”

were they doing so in a &quot;ha ha this is worse than a made for tv movie&quot; way or a &quot;oh man time to break out the good lotion&quot; way?

either way holy fuck what is wrong with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The people who were in there at the same time as me actually cheered and applauded when they showed off the sex scene.”</p>
<p>were they doing so in a &#8220;ha ha this is worse than a made for tv movie&#8221; way or a &#8220;oh man time to break out the good lotion&#8221; way?</p>
<p>either way holy fuck what is wrong with them?</p>
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		<title>By: Tei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, remove my post. It was a joke just for me, but the edit button for some reason was not here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, remove my post. It was a joke just for me, but the edit button for some reason was not here.</p>
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		<title>By: Tei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all took place in a camp – something you can create at any time while wandering the game’s open spaces, a place to recoup, get some sleep, and chat with your companions. And indeed fuck them all, apparently. Because as we emerged from our night with &lt;b&gt;Console Gaming&lt;/b&gt;, we went over to chat with the slightly more modestly dressed redhead &lt;b&gt;PC Gaming&lt;/b&gt;, who it turns out is apparently our girlfriend. &lt;b&gt;PC&lt;/b&gt;’s voice makes &lt;b&gt;Consoles&lt;/b&gt;’s seem Shakespearian. The delivery is so deeply weird, stunted and childish. Unsurprisingly she’s upset at our bedroom antics, and protests. But not with any vigour or passion, but rather damply complains that it’s not particularly nice of us to go sleeping with other women right in front of her. Acknowledging that she can’t necessarily stop us from sleeping around, she meekly asks that we either stick just with her, or have the grace to break up with her as we continue our conquests. We choose to tell her that we love her really. She immediately capitulates and welcomes us back into her arms, before you’ve washed the smell of the last woman off you. So romantic! Here my notepad reads, “Pathetic.”

&lt;i&gt;Fixed it for you.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all took place in a camp – something you can create at any time while wandering the game’s open spaces, a place to recoup, get some sleep, and chat with your companions. And indeed fuck them all, apparently. Because as we emerged from our night with <b>Console Gaming</b>, we went over to chat with the slightly more modestly dressed redhead <b>PC Gaming</b>, who it turns out is apparently our girlfriend. <b>PC</b>’s voice makes <b>Consoles</b>’s seem Shakespearian. The delivery is so deeply weird, stunted and childish. Unsurprisingly she’s upset at our bedroom antics, and protests. But not with any vigour or passion, but rather damply complains that it’s not particularly nice of us to go sleeping with other women right in front of her. Acknowledging that she can’t necessarily stop us from sleeping around, she meekly asks that we either stick just with her, or have the grace to break up with her as we continue our conquests. We choose to tell her that we love her really. She immediately capitulates and welcomes us back into her arms, before you’ve washed the smell of the last woman off you. So romantic! Here my notepad reads, “Pathetic.”</p>
<p><i>Fixed it for you.</i></p>
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