Comments on: Video With Conviction: Ubi Talk New Splinter Cell

By: lra2or

lra2or — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:04:20 +0000

Whoops didn’t see the comment above. That’ll teach me not skim read!

Has any information on the multiplayer side of things been released yet?

By: Dracko

Dracko — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:27:47 +0000

Ira2or: Yes, we saw the footage too.

By: lra2or

lra2or — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:26:09 +0000

I’d just like to say that you gain an auto target opportunity once you’ve performed a stealth take down. Also, the colour of the dot above the persons head is an indicator of the chance to hit (white is a definite, red and other shades are percentages).

So it’s not an always on “I win” button.

As I see it, it’s just another tool to be used (or not). It looks to be a much more fluid fast paced game than previously and personally I can’t wait!

By: Subject 706

Subject 706 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:01:56 +0000

“A game that everyone will like” – meaning, it’ll be watered down, and at best mediocre.

By: Dracko

Dracko — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:47:18 +0000

Marlowe: They already did that with Assassin’s Creed.

By: Adventurous Putty

Adventurous Putty — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:55:01 +0000

@Brer: Sounds interesting. Link, please?

And I think I’ve rambled about this game enough in another thread, so I’ll just shut up about it. Needless to say, the crying over “dire oversimplification” and “betrayal of the genre” and “console dumbing-down” are (though perhaps warranted) at best premature and at worst kind of fanboyish.

By: Toby

Toby — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:32:53 +0000

I would point out to all the angry men that presumably you don’t need to use the auto targeting gubbins if you don’t want to. I would however second the complaint of the Ubi slide into on rails action; POP was such a disappointment. AC was great the first few hours but I’ve never been able to play through it again, knowing the hours of repetition that lay ahead.

By: Marlowe

Marlowe — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:50:00 +0000

So they want to turn Splinter Cell into an RTS game where you control just one unit? Click on this location – Sam runs to it – click on a bunch of bad guys – Sam kills them – click on a building – Sam blows it up.

Sound like Ubisoft have put everything into reverse history wise – Rainbow Six started out as a game where you plotted the movements of four squads through a map, setting waypoints and commands (like ‘Frag this room’ and ‘blow yourself up defusing the bomb’) and once you’d tweaked it to perfection you hit the Execute Plan button, sat back and watched your men get slaughtered when some Tango you’d not foreseen popped up behind them with an MG as they traversed a room.

They ditched all of that for the FPS approach with no pre-planning and now they want to restore something like it in SC?

By: Bite

Bite — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:23:28 +0000

Ubisoft actually brought SC:C back to the drawing board because they felt the game was too similar to Assassin’s Creed (what with the social stealth and combat aspects). The moves I’m seeing here still belong to the standard gamut of what Sam Fisher is capable of, just considerably sped up. I’d like to see a man in his fifties navigate a ledge with that kind of mobility and swiftness.

By: Gravey

Gravey — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:36:30 +0000

I usually get my panties in a knot when people mention the great stealth games and completely neglect Thief. But in this case, the Ubi guys were saying “stealth action”, so assuming that “action” means the protagonist is equipped and expect to live after a face-to-face fight, I’ll let them off the hook on this one. I’ll argue that Thief is the original and best pure stealth game, a mechanic or philosophy which no other franchise has totally invested in: sneak-or-fight versus sneak-or-run.

By: Brer

Brer — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:32:46 +0000

More specifically according to preview coverage elsewhere, they’re still tweaking it but right now you need to do a melee takedown (lethal or non-lethal) in order to recharge the “mark and execute” move, and the number of people you can mark varies by weapon. If you watch one of the E3 Developer Playthroughs you can see him mark two people in the mansion without having the move “charged” (the dots in the lower right hand corner are grey, not red), drop down and do a neck-break on a third, which refills the gauge and turns the “marks” above the two other guys heads from grey to red, allowing him to execute the move.

In a sense it’s not really all THAT revolutionary in the sense that it’s really just an evolution of chargeable special moves from many games.

By: Bhazor

Bhazor — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:47:43 +0000

Reply to Wooly

Nay the original Metal Gear used a very primitive line of sight system and leveled alarms. It also included patrols security cameras and all that other gubbins. Thief was in fact predated by (among others) Tenchu by around 9 months. However, Thief was among the first to penalise for any deaths and have predominantly non violent objectives. Calling Thief the first stealth game is like calling Burnout the first arcade racing game, it may be the most polished or successful version but it’s certainly not the first.

But anyway their claim in the video is utterly, stupendously wrong.