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	<title>Comments on: Choose Your War: Op Flash 2 &amp; ArmA II Trailers</title>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Op. Flashpoint 2 reminds me of GRAW2, atleast from that trailer.</description>
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		<title>By: blarghhh</title>
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		<dc:creator>blarghhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chief (?) designer of OF2, Lee Brimmicombe-Wood, has some interesting credentials.  He&#039;s done some innovative and really excellent board wargame designs, among other things.  I&#039;d love to see an RPS interview with him.  I think his views on the much-vaunted concept of &quot;realism&quot; would be especially interesting here.  Make it so, team!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chief (?) designer of OF2, Lee Brimmicombe-Wood, has some interesting credentials.  He&#8217;s done some innovative and really excellent board wargame designs, among other things.  I&#8217;d love to see an RPS interview with him.  I think his views on the much-vaunted concept of &#8220;realism&#8221; would be especially interesting here.  Make it so, team!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/07/07/choose-your-war-op-flash-2-arma-ii-trailers/comment-page-2/#comment-218702</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John: Q3 is clearly better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: Q3 is clearly better.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Moloney</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/07/07/choose-your-war-op-flash-2-arma-ii-trailers/comment-page-2/#comment-218683</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Moloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You seem to have described a closed community vaguely hostile towards newcomers &quot;

Um, to be fair, he was describing people who were being blatantly malicious rather than simply inexperienced.

I finished mission 1 - on Recruit level - last night. Great fun but I think I&#039;ll get some more medals under my belt before I try multiplayer.

P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You seem to have described a closed community vaguely hostile towards newcomers &#8221;</p>
<p>Um, to be fair, he was describing people who were being blatantly malicious rather than simply inexperienced.</p>
<p>I finished mission 1 &#8211; on Recruit level &#8211; last night. Great fun but I think I&#8217;ll get some more medals under my belt before I try multiplayer.</p>
<p>P.</p>
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		<title>By: El_MUERkO</title>
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		<dc:creator>El_MUERkO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ArmA2 all the way!

OFP2 has to prove itself to me and it has yet to do that, no doubt the team are being interfered with constantly by management saying &quot;it&#039;s not enough like CoD4!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ArmA2 all the way!</p>
<p>OFP2 has to prove itself to me and it has yet to do that, no doubt the team are being interfered with constantly by management saying &#8220;it&#8217;s not enough like CoD4!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JuJuCam</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuJuCam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PendragonUK I was considering having a go at ArmA2 having had absolutely no experience with the series but being a person who generally appreciates and enjoys depth in gaming while knowing he can&#039;t necessarily handle said depth without help. Now I&#039;m not so sure. You seem to have described a closed community vaguely hostile towards newcomers and more casual gamers that would eat a player like me alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PendragonUK I was considering having a go at ArmA2 having had absolutely no experience with the series but being a person who generally appreciates and enjoys depth in gaming while knowing he can&#8217;t necessarily handle said depth without help. Now I&#8217;m not so sure. You seem to have described a closed community vaguely hostile towards newcomers and more casual gamers that would eat a player like me alive.</p>
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		<title>By: PendragonUK</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/07/07/choose-your-war-op-flash-2-arma-ii-trailers/comment-page-2/#comment-218533</link>
		<dc:creator>PendragonUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well maybe I&#039;m sort of looking forward to OF:2 coming out. Then maybe the dicks that come on our server and bugger about will be pissing off people on OF:2 servers instead. Leaving the ArmA:2 players alone to get on with their gaming.

&quot;Serous&quot; is never a word that should be used when talking about gaming. Thing is some of these dicks just spawn and blow everything up, spawn killing their own team m8. The rest of us are trying to complete the mission. 

The kids and the TK&#039;ers can go off and play OF:2 the rest of us can play ArmA:2 

OF:2 will die off quickly enough, because the kids will get bored and want to play the next shinny new game. The people that like it will become pissed off with the limited game play, the very thing that made the game easier to play in the first place, will result in it&#039;s decline and death.

ArmA will continue, it has the continuity of the community from the original OF. I don&#039;t think that the map makers, moders and the community as a whole will take OF:2 on board. Most see it as the upstart pretender it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well maybe I&#8217;m sort of looking forward to OF:2 coming out. Then maybe the dicks that come on our server and bugger about will be pissing off people on OF:2 servers instead. Leaving the ArmA:2 players alone to get on with their gaming.</p>
<p>&#8220;Serous&#8221; is never a word that should be used when talking about gaming. Thing is some of these dicks just spawn and blow everything up, spawn killing their own team m8. The rest of us are trying to complete the mission. </p>
<p>The kids and the TK&#8217;ers can go off and play OF:2 the rest of us can play ArmA:2 </p>
<p>OF:2 will die off quickly enough, because the kids will get bored and want to play the next shinny new game. The people that like it will become pissed off with the limited game play, the very thing that made the game easier to play in the first place, will result in it&#8217;s decline and death.</p>
<p>ArmA will continue, it has the continuity of the community from the original OF. I don&#8217;t think that the map makers, moders and the community as a whole will take OF:2 on board. Most see it as the upstart pretender it is.</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gametrailers is a good source of videos, but MAN the stuff they create personaly is mediocre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gametrailers is a good source of videos, but MAN the stuff they create personaly is mediocre.</p>
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		<title>By: jalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Howard: The Cell is extremely powerful in certain specialized cases. But for a lot of general-purpose processing, even an elderly Athlon 64 could run circles around it.

And the thing about games AI is that it is typically very much general-purpose processing. Lots of branches, and very little actual computation. Which means it is pretty much the one thing PC CPU&#039;s do best, and which the Cell is least suited for.

Like he said, in-order processing is a huge performance hit. The lack of branch prediction doesn&#039;t help matters either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Howard: The Cell is extremely powerful in certain specialized cases. But for a lot of general-purpose processing, even an elderly Athlon 64 could run circles around it.</p>
<p>And the thing about games AI is that it is typically very much general-purpose processing. Lots of branches, and very little actual computation. Which means it is pretty much the one thing PC CPU&#8217;s do best, and which the Cell is least suited for.</p>
<p>Like he said, in-order processing is a huge performance hit. The lack of branch prediction doesn&#8217;t help matters either.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Erlam
Really?  Even the PS3 and its Cell CPU?  Thought that was the bizz for AI?

@Isocheim
Well that has totally ruined it for me now.  I already had the Benny Hill theme on loop in my head whenever the AI gets in a tiz and does a 3000 point turn to avoid a tree.  Now I&#039;ll be hearing Terrance and bloody Philip when they talk! &gt;&lt;


=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erlam<br />
Really?  Even the PS3 and its Cell CPU?  Thought that was the bizz for AI?</p>
<p>@Isocheim<br />
Well that has totally ruined it for me now.  I already had the Benny Hill theme on loop in my head whenever the AI gets in a tiz and does a 3000 point turn to avoid a tree.  Now I&#8217;ll be hearing Terrance and bloody Philip when they talk! &gt;&lt;</p>
<p>=)</p>
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		<title>By: Erlam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erlam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only thing stopping people from porting more PC hits to consoles is the utterly wrongheaded belief that consoles can’t handle the games.&quot;

In-order processing, look it up. I&#039;ve worked on every console from the PS2 til now, and I can tell you - consoles can&#039;t handle what PC&#039;s can. This isn&#039;t a pissing contest, this is just something I know to be true because, at this very moment, I am running two PS3 devkits off my computer. A co-worker of mine is currently running &lt;i&gt;seven&lt;/i&gt;. 

Graphically, consoles are close. When it comes to AI, though, consoles simply don&#039;t have the processing power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only thing stopping people from porting more PC hits to consoles is the utterly wrongheaded belief that consoles can’t handle the games.&#8221;</p>
<p>In-order processing, look it up. I&#8217;ve worked on every console from the PS2 til now, and I can tell you &#8211; consoles can&#8217;t handle what PC&#8217;s can. This isn&#8217;t a pissing contest, this is just something I know to be true because, at this very moment, I am running two PS3 devkits off my computer. A co-worker of mine is currently running <i>seven</i>. </p>
<p>Graphically, consoles are close. When it comes to AI, though, consoles simply don&#8217;t have the processing power.</p>
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		<title>By: Isocheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isocheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was certain I&#039;d be backing ArmA II simply on the basis of how much I hate everything made by Codemasters, but the demo was quite the turn-off, from the bugs and lack of optimization to the needlessly complex controls and &quot;Terrance and Phillip&quot;-esque lip syncing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was certain I&#8217;d be backing ArmA II simply on the basis of how much I hate everything made by Codemasters, but the demo was quite the turn-off, from the bugs and lack of optimization to the needlessly complex controls and &#8220;Terrance and Phillip&#8221;-esque lip syncing.</p>
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