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	<title>Comments on: Prices Rising? Modern Warfare 2 For £40</title>
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		<title>By: St4ud3</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/07/16/prices-rising-modern-warefare-2-for-40/comment-page-7/#comment-266401</link>
		<dc:creator>St4ud3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the price stays that high, I&#039;ll just buy a CD-Key in some Korean Online store and get the CD somewhere else. No way I&#039;m spending that amount of money on a game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the price stays that high, I&#8217;ll just buy a CD-Key in some Korean Online store and get the CD somewhere else. No way I&#8217;m spending that amount of money on a game.</p>
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		<title>By: Edvin512</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edvin512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>66,6£ for this in Norway, you get thing too cheap :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>66,6£ for this in Norway, you get thing too cheap :p</p>
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		<title>By: LewieP</title>
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		<dc:creator>LewieP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huzzah!

http://savygamer.co.uk/2009/08/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-pc-2799.html

£27.99 preorder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huzzah!</p>
<p><a href="http://savygamer.co.uk/2009/08/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-pc-2799.html" rel="nofollow">http://savygamer.co.uk/2009/08/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-pc-2799.html</a></p>
<p>£27.99 preorder.</p>
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		<title>By: oceanclub</title>
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		<dc:creator>oceanclub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to see this story is The Times frontpage news (at least online);

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/gadgets_and_gaming/article6728189.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see this story is The Times frontpage news (at least online);</p>
<p><a href="http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/gadgets_and_gaming/article6728189.ece" rel="nofollow">http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/gadgets_and_gaming/article6728189.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: The_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35118/Average-game-price-falls-in-09&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Well, this is an interesting turn of events.&lt;/a&gt; Wonder if ActiBlizz are thinking twice now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35118/Average-game-price-falls-in-09" rel="nofollow">Well, this is an interesting turn of events.</a> Wonder if ActiBlizz are thinking twice now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: neems</title>
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		<dc:creator>neems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure it&#039;ll come to much. I seem to recall Half Life 2 costing more than anything else on PC at retail when it was first released, purely because Valve / whoever the publisher was knew they could get away with it. Everything else just stayed the same.

Cod6 is expensive, no doubt, maybe too expensive, but it&#039;ll sell by the bucket load. I don&#039;t think every other publisher will automatically follow suit though. Regardless of personal opinion, Modern Warfare 2 is probably 2009&#039;s biggest gaming release, by a distance. You can realistically sell it at £40 for the pc version - but the same doesn&#039;t necessarily apply to Mirror&#039;s Edge 2, Dragon Age, Diablo 3, or whatever.

Sadly, I will almost certainly pay over the odds to have Cod6 in my hands on the day of release, as I belong to a Cod4 clan, and our masterplan (I use both &#039;master&#039; and &#039;plan&#039; in the loosest possible sense) is to get a couple of UK servers up tout suite (sp?). It&#039;s all about bums on seats, apparently. I won&#039;t be paying £40 mind, but it&#039;ll still be more than I&#039;m used to (according to shopto.net, the RRP for Cod6 PC is actually £45).

As an aside, my clan has somewhere between fifteen and twenty members who play Cod4, but only two or maybe three of us (including myself) have ever actually played the single player.

Basically I might pay extra for this, but everything else can wait for the sales. Apologies for over-long rambling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;ll come to much. I seem to recall Half Life 2 costing more than anything else on PC at retail when it was first released, purely because Valve / whoever the publisher was knew they could get away with it. Everything else just stayed the same.</p>
<p>Cod6 is expensive, no doubt, maybe too expensive, but it&#8217;ll sell by the bucket load. I don&#8217;t think every other publisher will automatically follow suit though. Regardless of personal opinion, Modern Warfare 2 is probably 2009&#8217;s biggest gaming release, by a distance. You can realistically sell it at £40 for the pc version &#8211; but the same doesn&#8217;t necessarily apply to Mirror&#8217;s Edge 2, Dragon Age, Diablo 3, or whatever.</p>
<p>Sadly, I will almost certainly pay over the odds to have Cod6 in my hands on the day of release, as I belong to a Cod4 clan, and our masterplan (I use both &#8216;master&#8217; and &#8216;plan&#8217; in the loosest possible sense) is to get a couple of UK servers up tout suite (sp?). It&#8217;s all about bums on seats, apparently. I won&#8217;t be paying £40 mind, but it&#8217;ll still be more than I&#8217;m used to (according to shopto.net, the RRP for Cod6 PC is actually £45).</p>
<p>As an aside, my clan has somewhere between fifteen and twenty members who play Cod4, but only two or maybe three of us (including myself) have ever actually played the single player.</p>
<p>Basically I might pay extra for this, but everything else can wait for the sales. Apologies for over-long rambling.</p>
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		<title>By: cliffski</title>
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		<dc:creator>cliffski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No it wouldn&#039;t. I&#039;ve read enough threads when abuse gets hurled around for people trying to separate games into different parts to know that it would just result in the same.
The only answer the majority of gamers will give to any discussion of game pricing is &quot;we want everything we have right now, but much cheaper&quot;.

There is a free market. Anyone who doesn&#039;t want to buy COD6, just don&#039;t buy it, then get on with your lives.
if you want to be annoyed about prices, get annoyed about energy or water prices, something where you *have* to consume it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it wouldn&#8217;t. I&#8217;ve read enough threads when abuse gets hurled around for people trying to separate games into different parts to know that it would just result in the same.<br />
The only answer the majority of gamers will give to any discussion of game pricing is &#8220;we want everything we have right now, but much cheaper&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is a free market. Anyone who doesn&#8217;t want to buy COD6, just don&#8217;t buy it, then get on with your lives.<br />
if you want to be annoyed about prices, get annoyed about energy or water prices, something where you *have* to consume it.</p>
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		<title>By: vagabond</title>
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		<dc:creator>vagabond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cliffski
If publishers would actually sell significant amounts of content  for a reasonable price, then I don&#039;t think anyone would care too much (I haven&#039;t seen much in the way of complaints regarding the Fallout 3 DLC pricing)

The horse armor DLC was your coffee shop example of offering to sprinkle some cinnamon on the $3 coffee for an extra dollar. You can argue all you like about how only people who want to pay for it need pay for it, but everyone else will be over here condemning them for, at best, not understanding their market; or more likely, preying on the ignorant to make a quick buck.

Do you honestly think that if MW2 was offered as either the single player component, or the multiplayer component, for 2/3rds the price of a &lt;i&gt;normal game&lt;/i&gt;, or both for full price, it wouldn&#039;t be hailed by gamers everywhere as the best deal since sliced bread?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cliffski<br />
If publishers would actually sell significant amounts of content  for a reasonable price, then I don&#8217;t think anyone would care too much (I haven&#8217;t seen much in the way of complaints regarding the Fallout 3 DLC pricing)</p>
<p>The horse armor DLC was your coffee shop example of offering to sprinkle some cinnamon on the $3 coffee for an extra dollar. You can argue all you like about how only people who want to pay for it need pay for it, but everyone else will be over here condemning them for, at best, not understanding their market; or more likely, preying on the ignorant to make a quick buck.</p>
<p>Do you honestly think that if MW2 was offered as either the single player component, or the multiplayer component, for 2/3rds the price of a <i>normal game</i>, or both for full price, it wouldn&#8217;t be hailed by gamers everywhere as the best deal since sliced bread?</p>
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		<title>By: TeeJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeeJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For £55 I could buy *all* of the following (new/boxed):

The Witcher, Mass Effect, World of Goo, GTA IV, Tomb Raider Underworld and Bioshock.

Games I buy now are typically between £5 and £15, (eg last month: Dead Space £7.99 released 9 months ago) and I might stretch to £25 for a newly released game if it was something special, but that&#039;s about it.

It doesn&#039;t bother me that much if a games company wants to try and &#039;over-price&#039; its games. It is very rare that the price remains very high for very long (even very strong sellers seem to eventually drop at least to under £20) and there are a lot of other games out there for me to spend my time and money on while I wait for the price to fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For £55 I could buy *all* of the following (new/boxed):</p>
<p>The Witcher, Mass Effect, World of Goo, GTA IV, Tomb Raider Underworld and Bioshock.</p>
<p>Games I buy now are typically between £5 and £15, (eg last month: Dead Space £7.99 released 9 months ago) and I might stretch to £25 for a newly released game if it was something special, but that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t bother me that much if a games company wants to try and &#8216;over-price&#8217; its games. It is very rare that the price remains very high for very long (even very strong sellers seem to eventually drop at least to under £20) and there are a lot of other games out there for me to spend my time and money on while I wait for the price to fall.</p>
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		<title>By: coupsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>coupsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, how much will the collector&#039;s edition (the one that includes NVG) cost!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, how much will the collector&#8217;s edition (the one that includes NVG) cost!?</p>
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		<title>By: Duoae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duoae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could do with editing, lol. The missing bit of the first part of the response would be:

That part of the &#039;free market&#039; seems to work quite well but it&#039;s based mainly on self space, used games and not so much on the quality of a game title (which would be a better reason for reducing the price of a game so quickly after launch). The reason to complain is that because of the way the games industry works (i.e. discrete price points) then what we&#039;ll see is many new games just setting their prices at the new &#039;normal&#039; regardless of quality, content or perceived worth - same as it&#039;s ever been....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could do with editing, lol. The missing bit of the first part of the response would be:</p>
<p>That part of the &#8216;free market&#8217; seems to work quite well but it&#8217;s based mainly on self space, used games and not so much on the quality of a game title (which would be a better reason for reducing the price of a game so quickly after launch). The reason to complain is that because of the way the games industry works (i.e. discrete price points) then what we&#8217;ll see is many new games just setting their prices at the new &#8216;normal&#8217; regardless of quality, content or perceived worth &#8211; same as it&#8217;s ever been&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Duoae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duoae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MC
&lt;i&gt;If you don’t then wait for it to come down in price and reach a price point where it does provide you with value for money. &lt;b&gt;Duh&lt;/b&gt;. The way game prices decrease with age means games sell at a variety of price points lower but not higher that the initial one. The way the games market works is such that all you need to do is wait for it to reach a price point you like. What’s to complain about?&lt;/i&gt;

Gee! Thanks, mister. I never wouldn&#039;t had thought &#039;uh nothing like that.

Seriously though... the whole point of your little aside there is completely at odds with how game developers and publishers want the game industry to work. The prices &lt;i&gt;shouldn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; fall that fast.... there&#039;s no need for them to. Imagine if you turned around to Cliffski and told him that you expected to pick up his games for £2, 6 months after release. What do you think he thinks about that? I certainly believe that game prices fall off too quickly at retail and relying on that system to get what you want actually puts developers out of pocket instead of rewarding them for the game you want - whether that be SP, SP+MP or MP.

&lt;i&gt;
The rest of that post is just confused. Like you give an example of supposed market failure in which it is clear the market response works and forces the company to lift their game! Or you get confused talking about DRM analogies when the point is one of simple inflation. Or get confused about whether the developers get pay rises when the simple point is that if that investors just got rich off of a polished AAA game we will see more investment in attempts to make polished AAA games. Or complain about the games industry having a standard price while complaining about MW2 experimenting with a price increase above the current standard. Or try to pretend that you can decide what the proper pricing should be by waving your hands about console sales as if that were the only factor. No, no, no.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s not my fault you can&#039;t follow reasoning. If it&#039;s confused then it&#039;s because the initial points i was responding to make no sense either.... hence the point of my response. I could respond to each and every one of your complaints about my points and clarify them for you but since you&#039;re clearly not interested in debate, more in dismissal (and it seems no one else is either) then i guess i won&#039;t. 

If you want to continue i&#039;m happy to do so... but less of the under-handed insults because i don&#039;t follow your exact viewpoint or am a fan boy of &quot;whatever point of view&quot; please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MC<br />
<i>If you don’t then wait for it to come down in price and reach a price point where it does provide you with value for money. <b>Duh</b>. The way game prices decrease with age means games sell at a variety of price points lower but not higher that the initial one. The way the games market works is such that all you need to do is wait for it to reach a price point you like. What’s to complain about?</i></p>
<p>Gee! Thanks, mister. I never wouldn&#8217;t had thought &#8216;uh nothing like that.</p>
<p>Seriously though&#8230; the whole point of your little aside there is completely at odds with how game developers and publishers want the game industry to work. The prices <i>shouldn&#8217;t</i> fall that fast&#8230;. there&#8217;s no need for them to. Imagine if you turned around to Cliffski and told him that you expected to pick up his games for £2, 6 months after release. What do you think he thinks about that? I certainly believe that game prices fall off too quickly at retail and relying on that system to get what you want actually puts developers out of pocket instead of rewarding them for the game you want &#8211; whether that be SP, SP+MP or MP.</p>
<p><i><br />
The rest of that post is just confused. Like you give an example of supposed market failure in which it is clear the market response works and forces the company to lift their game! Or you get confused talking about DRM analogies when the point is one of simple inflation. Or get confused about whether the developers get pay rises when the simple point is that if that investors just got rich off of a polished AAA game we will see more investment in attempts to make polished AAA games. Or complain about the games industry having a standard price while complaining about MW2 experimenting with a price increase above the current standard. Or try to pretend that you can decide what the proper pricing should be by waving your hands about console sales as if that were the only factor. No, no, no.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not my fault you can&#8217;t follow reasoning. If it&#8217;s confused then it&#8217;s because the initial points i was responding to make no sense either&#8230;. hence the point of my response. I could respond to each and every one of your complaints about my points and clarify them for you but since you&#8217;re clearly not interested in debate, more in dismissal (and it seems no one else is either) then i guess i won&#8217;t. </p>
<p>If you want to continue i&#8217;m happy to do so&#8230; but less of the under-handed insults because i don&#8217;t follow your exact viewpoint or am a fan boy of &#8220;whatever point of view&#8221; please&#8230;</p>
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