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The Winner Takes The Ball: Champ Manager Demo

Posted by Kieron Gillen on August 14th, 2009 at 9:09 pm.

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Hello ALT text reader. You are our favourites. We like you.

Or we presume he does. I mean, RPS is far from an expert in the foot-to-ball competitionals, but you’d presume that the winner got something. Maybe it’s a ball? That said, who’d want something that’s been kicked around for the best part of an afternoon? We don’t know. Maybe footballers. Oh, it’s a mysterious world to us, like the outside. Anyway – those of you who were intrigued by the interview we did with Beautiful Game Studios’ Roy Meredith may be intrigued by the news of a whole (count it!) demo of Championship Manager 2010. You can get it from the internet. And if you want an intelligent opinion of what the game’s like, I point you in the direction of Martin “Chopper” Korda over at EG. He speaks the language of the foo-to-balls.

Videos and similar beneath follow…

The first is some Beta footage of the match engine.

And this is a press conference at some Foot-to-ball Arena.

Lawks!

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21 Comments »

  1. Chris Evans says:

    I have it sitting on my hard drive, and in a few short minutes I shall start to play it. Good times :)

  2. LewieP says:

    Moar liek database manager

  3. Po0py says:

    Anyone remember Kevin Keegan’s Player Manager on the Snes?

    I played way too much of that game. Probably one of the games I played the most of, ever. It’s ancient and primative by today’s standards and there were many things that were wrong with it but it had that addictive, one more game aspect to it. I had no life.

  4. Chris Evans says:

    One thing I can’t figure from the demo is whether or not I can view a match without any 3D highlights and just having text like the old days. Must explore further.

  5. Novotny says:

    Am I the only one to note the Abba reference?

  6. Janek says:

    Chris: Hm. By the looks of it, no, there’s only text while there are highlights running, even if you turn all the highlights off (in “Detailed”). That’s a blow. I do quite like the 3D match engine, mind. Got a bit more character than FM’s. Some of the media stuff is nice, too.

    Remains to be seen how the actual nuts and bolts of the game compare to FM, though. I’ll have a better fiddle with it tomorrow.

  7. dtgreen says:

    Mmmm, not touched FM ‘09 for a while but may try this. Got to love ‘You can get it from the internet’. Classic. ;)

  8. leederkrenon says:

    i’d rather play footballer of the year.

  9. Tore says:

    Novotny: No, not at all.

  10. Freudian Trip says:

    Does it struggle with the same problems Football Manager does. Namely that you have to put more hours in than Sir Alex does to play a season? I miss being able to play a season in a day.

  11. Rei Onryou says:

    As an ALT text reader, I’d just like Kieron to know that RPS is my favourite and I like you.

    Share the love people!

  12. Dan says:

    Downloading now from the internet. Haven’t played a CM game since 2001!

  13. Nimic says:

    Dan, then you want to play Football Manager, not Championship Manager. A few years back the developers and the publishers split. Sports Interactive kept the code (aka the game), while the developers kept the name. The CM of today has nothing to do with the CM of back when, except for the name.

  14. dan says:

    @Nimic: that’s why I haven’t played a CM game since, I’ve been playing FM :)

    Thought I’d give the demo a whirl, enjoying it so far. The match engine’s better than FM’s, at least.

  15. Super Bladesman says:

    I thought I’d give the CM demo a whirl. Personally, I wasn’t impressed :(

    Some very nice ideas, but I don’t like the blocky UI and the match engine is still very poor. I said in advance that I had concerns over the set piece creator, and those concerns were borne out – it’s a good idea, but woefully executed. I set up a simple routine where a free kick taker would shoot at goal. The opposition keeper would move, before the kick was taken, to where the shot would end up… shocking.

    I genuinely hope BGS can pull it off one year – but it’s not this year.

  16. Dolphan says:

    Loving this demo. FM09 was pretty disappointing, and the match engine on this is far better. Set piece creator actually works pretty well as far as I can tell, though shooting from free kicks is a bit weak. I’ve set up some pretty effective moves. Seeing much better feedback from tactical changes than in FM as well.

  17. Mr Pink says:

    Are other people using a different 3D match engine to me? In the first half of my first game I’ve already had two players with open goals who failed to even attempt to move towards the ball, and a backpass so bad you wouldn’t see it in a kids game. I still haven’t come across a match engine that I prefer to text only, at least then you don’t get these frustrating glitches, which kill the immersion.

  18. Sly_Boots says:

    I’m siding with the critics on this one. Seen some howlers during the 3D match play, including loose balls in the opponent’s third of the pitch that my nearest play actually sprints away from. Frustrating.

    I like the training part, but there’s a lack of feedback. Should I be running drills manually each day (which would get tedious quickly), or once set up do they run automatically, or what. Same for team talks, after one all my players immediately went to ‘V Poor’ morale, but no suggestion why. We’d won the game and I’d congratulated them.

    It also falls into the trap of injuries being too frequent. In the space of two Premier League matches, I’d picked up six injuries. Combined with the fact it takes each player at least a week to get from a condition of 80% up to 100%, it meant I was forced to field a team of mostly reserves in the next match. Not very realistic. Gave up at that point and am unlikely to revisit it.

  19. Joshua says:

    This game doesn’t work on netbooks. I don’t know why. Crash on startup. I know netbooks suck but this is like the perfect game for it. I spent most of this weekend playing 01/02 (which is free on the website, and there are update patches) on mine. It was great.

  20. Super Bladesman says:

    Mr Pink – they must be. I was trying to be constructive, but in all honesty the CM10 match engine is like watching primary school football. It’s pretty though…

  21. Mr Pink says:

    Yeah, it does look nice. The thing is that football fans are very used to the way football “looks”, and to convince us that we are watching a “real” match is going to take some doing. Players don’t go for loose balls, they miss incredibly obvious through balls, they make suicidal backpasses, or totally ignore players in acres of space. If these were occasional it might be ok, but they happen in every game. Also the players don’t move realistically relative to the ball, and they have no physicality. I know all of this is a big ask, but until someone can do it all I would honestly rather have text only in the match engine. I think I’ll stick with CM 01/02. No problem with that on a netbook!

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