Comments on: Operation Flashpoint: Hardcore And Vehicular

By: Dracko

Dracko — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:02:44 +0000

Yeah, fuck those plebs who want to sit down and play games! How dare they!

By: Howard

Howard — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:41:32 +0000

@CaptainEnglishPants
If by “for-popular-consumption” you mean there is a chance that it will WORK, then sure. At least if someone else is making a military, tactical game there is a chance they will have spent more than 14 seconds on the AI and the SP campaign, unlike BIS.
But you enjoy your macho, hardcore (snigger) game with your utterly unintuitive menus, broken AI, unplayable single player, uncontrolable vehicles and the least realistic physics system I’ve seen in some years. No really. Go. Enjoy. Have fun.

By: CaptainEnglishPants

CaptainEnglishPants — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:31:46 +0000

Dragon Rising is the for-popular-consumption version of Arma 2. There’s an inherent problem with that, but you’d have to have played and understood what the original Operation Flashpoint was about. It’s nice to think they could smash together a generic shooter — Counter-strike or one of the Battlefields, Farcry, whatever — with Operation Flashpoint and end up with something good. I don’t believe that though. Flashpoint has its own charm, and so does Counter-strike, but throwing them together is an abomination. If you buy this game I hope you die. Not really. I don’t care if you buy it. I’m just saying, it’s not “the good of both games put together”, it’s just the degredation of both.

Also, MOUT without leaning is crap. Peeking around corners is essential.

And to whoever it was upthread who complained about Arma 2′s menus, you’re not supposed to re-read them. You’re supposed to familiarize yourself with them. It’s a hassle at the benefit of having way more options than without the system. I’m happy to have a more complicated system with more options at my fingertips.

By: Shadowcat

Shadowcat — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:41:54 +0000

I am amused that in a video containing the phrase “as hardcore as it gets”, the player appears to get shot on numerous occasions, and not once was the player incapacitated as a result. Combined with the apparent lack of reaction by the enemy to the building assault, it all made for some remarkably poor choice of footage, given the supposed focus.

The resulting impression was of a game in which you can charge headlong into a group of enemies without being fired upon, and if you do happen to get shot, it doesn’t have any ill effects. “As arcade as it gets”, in other words.

I’m sure that’s not actually the case, but it would seem that the Codemasters video production department are in dire need of a little constructive criticism.

By: phuzz

phuzz — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:32:55 +0000

re: the building assault:
If you’d tried that in OpF either you’d have been shoot half a mile away through the wall or by the time you got through the door (no mean feat) the enemy would have completely ignore you.
OpF wasn’t really that good at interiors, but hey, it was bloody great at the great outdoors.

By: Dominic White

Dominic White — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:14:22 +0000

http://virtualbattlespace.vbs2.com/ – this is the military training package that we know as ArmA 1/2. And while it won’t teach you to shoot (obviously), I’d imagine that it’s largely there for teaching tactics and maneuvers.

The military version definitely seems more flexible. They’ve also got more character/unit packs for it – I’m guessing their middle-eastern set will be used in the upcoming ArmA2 expansion.

By: Ybfelix

Ybfelix — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:41:47 +0000

About the civy version of military simulation software aspect. I find a simulator of foot solider interesting. Cars, tanks, fighters, they are machine, you use machines to sim machines, fine; how do you make simulator in which a people sim a people via a machine? Is there enough function? Does shooting involve your aim skillz with mouse(or sim-gun), or an environment-depending dice-throw determine whether you hit the target? Anyone seen an actual military grade shooter in action?

By: AndrewC

AndrewC — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:55:38 +0000

Bookwormat, he speak truth about all things.

By: Serondal

Serondal — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:46:37 +0000

@Bookwormat Funniest Typo of the month, Angry Mop :P Watch out for the angry mop it’s coming for it! RUNNNN

By: Howard

Howard — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:45:53 +0000

@Serondal
Yeah, I do lament the fact that Raven Shield has been lost to history. The evil, wicked things Ubisoft did to that series after RS just don’t bear thinking about.
Even SWAT 4, a fine, fine game, didn’t have RS’s level of lean-ability. It shall be missed.

By: A-Scale

A-Scale — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:41:20 +0000

It looks as if it was made by someone other than Russian coders who care not for bugs or playability. That is a huge plus.

By: Serondal

Serondal — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:40:35 +0000

@Dracko – Not required? Not required?!?! :P It is ALWAYS required, or at least very helpful. I would love to have been able to lean like that in a lot of other games I’ve played and would REALLY have loved to be able to open doors that way at the very least. I’d also like to be able to go prone and peek up a bit without standing up all the way (say just go up on your elbows instead of laying all the way down) I actually think I have played a game with that ability recently but I can’t remember what it was :P Obviously wasn’t very good.

As far as Track IR goes I believe you can lean around corners in Arm A with that very well and as well as nodding your head and stuff to communicate with other players. One thing I love about Arm A is that if you talk into your mic in game the character’s mouth moves. I know it is just eye candy but that was also extremely immersive to me. On one mission on line we’d stolen an enemy plane that could only fit 1 person but took 5 people to do the mission so the other 4 of us were sitting around talking on the mic as our evac got shot down not 1 time, not 2 times, but 3 times (the third time we were inside it on the way back to base)