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		<title>By: ComVlad</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/24/unready-zombie-shooter-2-teaser-demo/#comment-307866</link>
		<dc:creator>ComVlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d mention it but Zombie Shooter 2 was completed and released recently(the news post on sigma&#039;s website dates the release as September 23rd)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d mention it but Zombie Shooter 2 was completed and released recently(the news post on sigma&#8217;s website dates the release as September 23rd)
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		<title>By: Sonicgoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonicgoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. This thread proves there&#039;s a need for a place to redirect these discussions to. For example, like metafilter has a seperate site where people can discuss such tangents. Maybe RPS should reserve a part of the forums for that, so that the rest of us can chat about shooting zombies in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This thread proves there&#8217;s a need for a place to redirect these discussions to. For example, like metafilter has a seperate site where people can discuss such tangents. Maybe RPS should reserve a part of the forums for that, so that the rest of us can chat about shooting zombies in peace.
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		<title>By: Naismith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naismith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Heliocentric
I agree.  As much as I did enjoy AS2:Reloaded, Shadowgrounds, and to a greater extent Shadowgrounds Survivor, came off as a much more enjoyable and polished game.  I&#039;m always in the market for smaller indie titles such as those, as while they may not last 30 hours, the 10 hours you do get out of them are thoroughly enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Heliocentric<br />
I agree.  As much as I did enjoy AS2:Reloaded, Shadowgrounds, and to a greater extent Shadowgrounds Survivor, came off as a much more enjoyable and polished game.  I&#8217;m always in the market for smaller indie titles such as those, as while they may not last 30 hours, the 10 hours you do get out of them are thoroughly enjoyable.
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		<title>By: Heliocentric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heliocentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dom fair point, what about shadowgrounds. I find their less is more more enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dom fair point, what about shadowgrounds. I find their less is more more enjoyable.
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		<title>By: idmmao</title>
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		<dc:creator>idmmao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since everyone seems to be getting their &quot;Okay, this is my last post on the matter&quot; posts in, it&#039;s only fair for me to get mine.
Ultimately, a lot of people here were having an argument with nobody on the other side.  NOBODY in this thread was saying it&#039;s okay to use the word as much as you want, or disagreeing that it shouldn&#039;t be used on this site.  I personally never defended nor do I have any interest in defending the Karry&#039;s original post that brought this all up- I suspect he was using the definition most everyone thinks he was, though from a strictly grammatical standpoint it&#039;s ambiguous.  I never disagreed with nor do I have any interest in disagreeing with a decision not to use the word on this site.  All my point was that there was at least one person who was actually saying the dictionary was wrong, and that that is a ridiculous position to take, and no amount of implying I&#039;m an insensitive, chauvinist moron will change the fact that the dictionary defines a word, not your own personal beliefs about it.
I personally would never use the word in company where I wasn&#039;t certain everyone else would be aware of the second definition for exactly this reason, and let&#039;s be honest, the average gamer, the average ANYONE has a small fraction of that kind of vocabulary, as I believe we have illustrated over the last few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since everyone seems to be getting their &#8220;Okay, this is my last post on the matter&#8221; posts in, it&#8217;s only fair for me to get mine.<br />
Ultimately, a lot of people here were having an argument with nobody on the other side.  NOBODY in this thread was saying it&#8217;s okay to use the word as much as you want, or disagreeing that it shouldn&#8217;t be used on this site.  I personally never defended nor do I have any interest in defending the Karry&#8217;s original post that brought this all up- I suspect he was using the definition most everyone thinks he was, though from a strictly grammatical standpoint it&#8217;s ambiguous.  I never disagreed with nor do I have any interest in disagreeing with a decision not to use the word on this site.  All my point was that there was at least one person who was actually saying the dictionary was wrong, and that that is a ridiculous position to take, and no amount of implying I&#8217;m an insensitive, chauvinist moron will change the fact that the dictionary defines a word, not your own personal beliefs about it.<br />
I personally would never use the word in company where I wasn&#8217;t certain everyone else would be aware of the second definition for exactly this reason, and let&#8217;s be honest, the average gamer, the average ANYONE has a small fraction of that kind of vocabulary, as I believe we have illustrated over the last few days.
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		<title>By: Dominic White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominic White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bweh?
 What on earth are you talking about? Alien swarm is practically in another genre - Swarm is a tactical team-based shooter with an emphasis on online play. Alien Shooter is a game where you singlehandedly take on upwards of TEN THOUSAND enemies in a single level. You&#039;re effectively comparing Serious Sam to Rainbow Six here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bweh?<br />
 What on earth are you talking about? Alien swarm is practically in another genre &#8211; Swarm is a tactical team-based shooter with an emphasis on online play. Alien Shooter is a game where you singlehandedly take on upwards of TEN THOUSAND enemies in a single level. You&#8217;re effectively comparing Serious Sam to Rainbow Six here.
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		<title>By: Heliocentric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heliocentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone who likes these games needs to go play alien swarm (ut2004 mod) and then tell me these &quot;x shooter&quot; games are not crap. Because at the moment i can&#039;t see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone who likes these games needs to go play alien swarm (ut2004 mod) and then tell me these &#8220;x shooter&#8221; games are not crap. Because at the moment i can&#8217;t see it.
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		<title>By: Dominic White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominic White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, we&#039;re over that horrible trainwreck of an argument? Good. So, on the subject of ZS2, I hope they do stick to the minimalist pure shooty style of AS2 Reloaded.

The story behind reloaded is pretty messy - I gather that their publisher had basically run off with the game and were largely doing whatever they wanted with it. Sigma team eventually came out with a V1.5 version - Reloaded - and got valve to pull the previous publishers version from steam. Nicely replacing the earlier build, too.

And honestly, if you can seriously look at 5000+ alien monsters, and say that you&#039;d honestly rather be playing inventory-tetris when you COULD be shooting them with a semi-automatic mininuke launcher, you need your head examined. By zombies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, we&#8217;re over that horrible trainwreck of an argument? Good. So, on the subject of ZS2, I hope they do stick to the minimalist pure shooty style of AS2 Reloaded.</p>
<p>The story behind reloaded is pretty messy &#8211; I gather that their publisher had basically run off with the game and were largely doing whatever they wanted with it. Sigma team eventually came out with a V1.5 version &#8211; Reloaded &#8211; and got valve to pull the previous publishers version from steam. Nicely replacing the earlier build, too.</p>
<p>And honestly, if you can seriously look at 5000+ alien monsters, and say that you&#8217;d honestly rather be playing inventory-tetris when you COULD be shooting them with a semi-automatic mininuke launcher, you need your head examined. By zombies.
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LionsPhil: What Noc says, basically, minus the swearing. The &quot;anti-misogynists are the real misogynists&quot; card is, as ever, a nasty one to play. This is about atmosphere and really basic feminism.

I think the thread has ran its course here, so suggest people back off. We&#039;re not here to talk about the nature of non-consensual sex. The position has been made clear. If people want to talk more, do take it to e-mail or elsewhere. Or alternatively, google around a few sites and read some essays. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LionsPhil: What Noc says, basically, minus the swearing. The &#8220;anti-misogynists are the real misogynists&#8221; card is, as ever, a nasty one to play. This is about atmosphere and really basic feminism.</p>
<p>I think the thread has ran its course here, so suggest people back off. We&#8217;re not here to talk about the nature of non-consensual sex. The position has been made clear. If people want to talk more, do take it to e-mail or elsewhere. Or alternatively, google around a few sites and read some essays. </p>
<p>KG
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		<title>By: Noc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Heliocentric: Acting like rape &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; a gender issue is being willfully ignorant.

To wit: suppose I am walking along dark streets in a bad part of the city at night.  Things I have to worry about: being mugged, being robbed, being beaten up.

Suppose I am a lady, and am walking along dark streets in a bad part of the city at night.  Things I have to worry about: being raped, being mugged, being robbed.

Notice how these lists are different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Heliocentric: Acting like rape <i>isn&#8217;t</i> a gender issue is being willfully ignorant.</p>
<p>To wit: suppose I am walking along dark streets in a bad part of the city at night.  Things I have to worry about: being mugged, being robbed, being beaten up.</p>
<p>Suppose I am a lady, and am walking along dark streets in a bad part of the city at night.  Things I have to worry about: being raped, being mugged, being robbed.</p>
<p>Notice how these lists are different.
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		<title>By: Heliocentric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heliocentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, i get deleted after some of the other shit that is left? Okay, i&#039;ll say it another way.

Rapist don&#039;t only target women, acting like this is a gender issue is in itself insensitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, i get deleted after some of the other shit that is left? Okay, i&#8217;ll say it another way.</p>
<p>Rapist don&#8217;t only target women, acting like this is a gender issue is in itself insensitive.
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		<title>By: Ashurbanipal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashurbanipal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also just a question of taste. There&#039;s a place for rape references casually dropped into conversation, but it&#039;s not really here. 

I thought this also wasn&#039;t really the place of querulous pedants and absolutely exhausting whingers, but someone had to go and spoil the fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also just a question of taste. There&#8217;s a place for rape references casually dropped into conversation, but it&#8217;s not really here. </p>
<p>I thought this also wasn&#8217;t really the place of querulous pedants and absolutely exhausting whingers, but someone had to go and spoil the fun.
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