Comments on: We 30,000 Could Be Heroes… http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:18:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jeff http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-374728 Jeff Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:58:49 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-374728 please send me a beta key for HON or invite me please......i really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really want to play this game.... thanx and more power.... btw my e-add is JF466@yahoo.com.... please send me a beta key for HON or invite me please……i really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really want to play this game….

thanx and more power….

btw my e-add is JF466@yahoo.com….

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]]> By: misa http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-332772 misa Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:57:08 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-332772 please send me a beta key....ive been dieng to play this game please...if i need to beg you i will do it just for a beta key sir... please send me a beta key….ive been dieng to play this game please…if i need to beg you i will do it just for a beta key sir…

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]]> By: Name (required) http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-263244 Name (required) Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:34:03 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-263244 The beta seems to be more oriented to testing the balance of the heroes rather than finding bugs in the client itself (which is pretty solid). So if you're not a DoTA player, or not willing to do a bit of reading before playing, you might want to avoid this one. I myself was one of the latter; went into a couple games, got owned hard, got flamed by my team, was pretty close to uninstalling. But then I read the forums a bit, lrn'd2play, and now I'm absolutely loving this game. Hopefully the final version will have a tutorial. I recommend starting with: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=737 Then read a hero guide: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=520 Not sure which one to play? http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=3814 The beta seems to be more oriented to testing the balance of the heroes rather than finding bugs in the client itself (which is pretty solid). So if you’re not a DoTA player, or not willing to do a bit of reading before playing, you might want to avoid this one. I myself was one of the latter; went into a couple games, got owned hard, got flamed by my team, was pretty close to uninstalling. But then I read the forums a bit, lrn’d2play, and now I’m absolutely loving this game. Hopefully the final version will have a tutorial.

I recommend starting with:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=737

Then read a hero guide:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=520

Not sure which one to play?
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=3814

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]]> By: Tauquebb http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-262010 Tauquebb Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:27:04 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-262010 it looks to be yet another game rewarding the choice of one hero, and one chain of items, I kept getting insta-killed again and again, but if i copy them, choosing the same characters and weapons, well, then i pwn, not tactical... it looks to be yet another game rewarding the choice of one hero, and one chain of items, I kept getting insta-killed again and again, but if i copy them, choosing the same characters and weapons, well, then i pwn, not tactical…

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]]> By: Cutman http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-261972 Cutman Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:35:59 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-261972 The only nice person I met on this game couldn't speak English. Which actually spoke a lot of his character that he would try as best he could to communicate with me on top of being nice. Instead of going "y u suck lozl" The only nice person I met on this game couldn’t speak English. Which actually spoke a lot of his character that he would try as best he could to communicate with me on top of being nice. Instead of going “y u suck lozl”

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]]> By: Jahkaivah http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-261895 Jahkaivah Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:41:32 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-261895 What bothers me, is that Savage was about combining the accessibility of fps/hack n slash with the depth of rts. This would have been the perfect opputunity to do the same thing for the DoTT formula, your already controlling just one guy, why not do so directly? What bothers me, is that Savage was about combining the accessibility of fps/hack n slash with the depth of rts.

This would have been the perfect opputunity to do the same thing for the DoTT formula, your already controlling just one guy, why not do so directly?

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]]> By: Jayt http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-261574 Jayt Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:55:56 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-261574 Side note: awesome community full of "lol u newbz why so shit?" really feels like playing with a bunch of hardcore elitist teenagers, which it probably is. Can't wait for my two mates to install and play so this game can become slightly enjoyable for me. Side note: awesome community full of “lol u newbz why so shit?”

really feels like playing with a bunch of hardcore elitist teenagers, which it probably is. Can’t wait for my two mates to install and play so this game can become slightly enjoyable for me.

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]]> By: Jayt http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-261569 Jayt Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:53:44 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-261569 First impressions are, getting face stomped by everything. Read some more, face stomped some more. The learning curve is a headache First impressions are, getting face stomped by everything. Read some more, face stomped some more.

The learning curve is a headache

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]]> By: Heliocentric http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-261536 Heliocentric Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:24:56 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-261536 Don't get me wrong but these games are impossible to properly document because they are such a crapstorm of mathematical models. On one dota i saw a player avoid killing anything because his class (builder/hero) gave no xp at level one. He would freak out if you killed anything near him, but in turn he could deploy healing shrines off the main route and was a massive boon to his team without ever offering the enemy xp.(despite dying so much the actual game mocked him). The manual would need 20 pages of tables just to offer half of this information. Don’t get me wrong but these games are impossible to properly document because they are such a crapstorm of mathematical models.

On one dota i saw a player avoid killing anything because his class (builder/hero) gave no xp at level one. He would freak out if you killed anything near him, but in turn he could deploy healing shrines off the main route and was a massive boon to his team without ever offering the enemy xp.(despite dying so much the actual game mocked him). The manual would need 20 pages of tables just to offer half of this information.

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]]> By: Kalkyrie http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-261528 Kalkyrie Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:16:26 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-261528 The problem with DOTA needing people to rtfm, is that it doesn't have a manual. The problem with DOTA needing people to rtfm, is that it doesn’t have a manual.

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]]> By: Heliocentric http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-261513 Heliocentric Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:57:03 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-261513 DOTA'S (as a genre) community problems are rooted in the game. Its about micromanaging 1 unit, but with literally thousands of options. This creates 2 classes of player, those who do the math/read the math and those who don't. I was always a math player, after playing a dota on wc3 i'd load it up singleplayer and check out all the heroes and explore the maps. Then after finding 4 or so strong builds (often up to an hour of pondering) i would go back and kick arse, it was such a massive difference. Of course, before long i discovered faq's and boards. But i'd watch people play game after game and still never really get the maths. And the hate they recieved was monumental, all because they didn't rtfm. DOTA’S (as a genre) community problems are rooted in the game. Its about micromanaging 1 unit, but with literally thousands of options. This creates 2 classes of player, those who do the math/read the math and those who don’t.

I was always a math player, after playing a dota on wc3 i’d load it up singleplayer and check out all the heroes and explore the maps. Then after finding 4 or so strong builds (often up to an hour of pondering) i would go back and kick arse, it was such a massive difference.

Of course, before long i discovered faq’s and boards. But i’d watch people play game after game and still never really get the maths.

And the hate they recieved was monumental, all because they didn’t rtfm.

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]]> By: Spaceghost http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/08/27/we-30000-could-be-heroes/#comment-261495 Spaceghost Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:39:23 +0000 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=16701#comment-261495 The game is great but only with friends: it has the same 'toxic' community as Demigod, DOTA, and to some extent WoW arena. I played with the friends that introduced me and I really had a lot of fun. But even in games labeled as 'noob friendly', a five-game veteran like myself gets a torrent of abuse and votekicks. The game is great but only with friends: it has the same ‘toxic’ community as Demigod, DOTA, and to some extent WoW arena. I played with the friends that introduced me and I really had a lot of fun. But even in games labeled as ‘noob friendly’, a five-game veteran like myself gets a torrent of abuse and votekicks.

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