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		<title>By: Michael Leung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I hear a fuck yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I hear a fuck yes?
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		<title>By: solipsistnation</title>
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		<dc:creator>solipsistnation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Anonymous Coward &lt;a href=&quot;http://rockpapershotgun.com//rockpapershotgun.com/rpsforum/topic.php?id=154&amp;page=3#post-5864&quot;&quot;&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yea!  I was sooo excited about G-Force until I found out it was about hamster mating.
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&lt;p&gt;Guinea pigs are NOT hamsters. They&#039;re totally different. Guinea pigs are larger herd beasts, while hamsters are smaller and more solitary. Hamsters eat nuts, piggies graze on grass and hay and greens and so on. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Piggies are cuter and nicer, too, while hamsters can get quite mean. So there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><cite>Anonymous Coward <a href="http://rockpapershotgun.com//rockpapershotgun.com/rpsforum/topic.php?id=154&amp;page=3#post-5864&quot;">said</a>:</cite><br />
Oh yea!  I was sooo excited about G-Force until I found out it was about hamster mating.
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<p>Guinea pigs are NOT hamsters. They&#39;re totally different. Guinea pigs are larger herd beasts, while hamsters are smaller and more solitary. Hamsters eat nuts, piggies graze on grass and hay and greens and so on. </p>
<p>Piggies are cuter and nicer, too, while hamsters can get quite mean. So there.
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		<title>By: Hodge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>World Of Padman did that too - you were little people running around on kitchen benchtops so forth. It was a Quake 3 (I think) mod which eventually became a free standalone thingy when Q3 went open source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World Of Padman did that too &#8211; you were little people running around on kitchen benchtops so forth. It was a Quake 3 (I think) mod which eventually became a free standalone thingy when Q3 went open source.
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		<title>By: RacerX</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea!  I was sooo excited about G-Force until I found out it was about hamster mating.

I used to get up early before 4th or 5th grade school in the late 70&#039;s to watch Battle of the Planets.  I actually only remembered it as G-Force.  Sweet anime from my childhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea!  I was sooo excited about G-Force until I found out it was about hamster mating.</p>
<p>I used to get up early before 4th or 5th grade school in the late 70&#8242;s to watch Battle of the Planets.  I actually only remembered it as G-Force.  Sweet anime from my childhood.
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This game would be massively improved by the addition of:
- Cybernetics
- Motorcycles
- Mars

Rock &amp; Ride!

Oh, and the removal of that $#!+ camera</description>
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- Cybernetics<br />
- Motorcycles<br />
- Mars</p>
<p>Rock &amp; Ride!</p>
<p>Oh, and the removal of that $#!+ camera
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of an FPS where you are tiny... fighting in larger versions of real life environments.  But this game wasn&#039;t as awesome or cute as i expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of an FPS where you are tiny&#8230; fighting in larger versions of real life environments.  But this game wasn&#8217;t as awesome or cute as i expected.
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please don&#039;t turn into VE3d and only post &quot;hardcore&quot; games. and then argue about which is hardcoriest. 

That said... the screenshot looks awesome... the game, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please don&#8217;t turn into VE3d and only post &#8220;hardcore&#8221; games. and then argue about which is hardcoriest. </p>
<p>That said&#8230; the screenshot looks awesome&#8230; the game, not so much.
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		<title>By: Captain Bland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll admit you have a point about We3 having an anti military stance, ‘the military will turn anything into a weapon’ (e.g. the use of the engineering rodents as weapons against We3). However, I still think that this is tied to an anti technology, anti human theme.

*Major Spoilers now*

The main reason I felt We3 was misanthropic ties into the character of the scientist. The scientist is one of two main sympathetic characters in the book. She creates and frees the animals. After she frees the animals, they then go on to kill many soldiers, and a civilian. When she is used as &#039;bait&#039; later on to trap the animals, she chooses to free them rather than live. She is kind to the animals and she values their freedom, so I think it&#039;s fair to say she&#039;s sympathetic. What I had a problem with was that she values the freedom of the animals above the lives of people they go on to kill. There is no arguing that she did not know they would kill- she helped train them as killing machines and she set them loose in their power suits. So I see her as a misanthropic character. 

I also read this interview (http://web.archive.org/web/20070814094707/http://www.newsarama.com/pages/DC/We3.htm) with Morrison, closely after reading the book. I think it shows his pro animal rights/anti human stance quite explicitly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll admit you have a point about We3 having an anti military stance, ‘the military will turn anything into a weapon’ (e.g. the use of the engineering rodents as weapons against We3). However, I still think that this is tied to an anti technology, anti human theme.</p>
<p>*Major Spoilers now*</p>
<p>The main reason I felt We3 was misanthropic ties into the character of the scientist. The scientist is one of two main sympathetic characters in the book. She creates and frees the animals. After she frees the animals, they then go on to kill many soldiers, and a civilian. When she is used as &#8216;bait&#8217; later on to trap the animals, she chooses to free them rather than live. She is kind to the animals and she values their freedom, so I think it&#8217;s fair to say she&#8217;s sympathetic. What I had a problem with was that she values the freedom of the animals above the lives of people they go on to kill. There is no arguing that she did not know they would kill- she helped train them as killing machines and she set them loose in their power suits. So I see her as a misanthropic character. </p>
<p>I also read this interview (<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070814094707/http://www.newsarama.com/pages/DC/We3.htm" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20070814094707/http://www.newsarama.com/pages/DC/We3.htm</a>) with Morrison, closely after reading the book. I think it shows his pro animal rights/anti human stance quite explicitly.
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		<title>By: ZeeKat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZeeKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guinea pigs fucking shit up? Downloading the demo right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guinea pigs fucking shit up? Downloading the demo right now.
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		<title>By: Kieron Gillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieron Gillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wulf. I think he actually a bit of a point, and I can see it throwing some people. It&#039;s highly anti-Animal Experimentation as a general concept - which isn&#039;t out of line with previous things Morrison has written and said before. I do think you&#039;ve got to make a bit of a reach when you say it&#039;s actually anti-science though.

(Unless you&#039;re someone who takes animal-experimentation as an intrinsic part of science, which is a cheat and you should question your assumptions. Animal Experimentation as The Dark Side Of Science is pretty much what Wulf is picking up on, I think)

I&#039;m highly pro-animal-experimentation, and think it&#039;s one of the single best works in the comics demi-mainstream of the 00s. It&#039;s formally astounding* and moves me deeply. If I actually visualise certain scenes, it brings tears to my eyes**.

KG

*I actually threw away a comics pitch I had finished when it came out, as I realised I had to raise my game if I&#039;m trying to do an action comic.
**(&quot;UR NAME IS BANDIT! RUN! RUN FAR!&quot;. In fact, it&#039;s just done it now. Man!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wulf. I think he actually a bit of a point, and I can see it throwing some people. It&#8217;s highly anti-Animal Experimentation as a general concept &#8211; which isn&#8217;t out of line with previous things Morrison has written and said before. I do think you&#8217;ve got to make a bit of a reach when you say it&#8217;s actually anti-science though.</p>
<p>(Unless you&#8217;re someone who takes animal-experimentation as an intrinsic part of science, which is a cheat and you should question your assumptions. Animal Experimentation as The Dark Side Of Science is pretty much what Wulf is picking up on, I think)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m highly pro-animal-experimentation, and think it&#8217;s one of the single best works in the comics demi-mainstream of the 00s. It&#8217;s formally astounding* and moves me deeply. If I actually visualise certain scenes, it brings tears to my eyes**.</p>
<p>KG</p>
<p>*I actually threw away a comics pitch I had finished when it came out, as I realised I had to raise my game if I&#8217;m trying to do an action comic.<br />
**(&#8220;UR NAME IS BANDIT! RUN! RUN FAR!&#8221;. In fact, it&#8217;s just done it now. Man!)
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		<title>By: bakaohki</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is some shocking crap. Kratos, anyone?</description>
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		<title>By: Wulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To stress the latter point, I think I need to stress that people was a bit of a metaphor and a misnomer, as it can apply to anything, including the animals or even an anthropomorphised aspect of Science; their armour and the technology involved.  The animals turned away from that darkness, as did the Science involved, as did the people responsible for carrying that disease of darkness after having realised what they&#039;d done by passing it on to others.

And darkness I&#039;m using here as another metaphor to imply a distinct lack of ethics and empathy.

But that&#039;s what I took We3 to mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To stress the latter point, I think I need to stress that people was a bit of a metaphor and a misnomer, as it can apply to anything, including the animals or even an anthropomorphised aspect of Science; their armour and the technology involved.  The animals turned away from that darkness, as did the Science involved, as did the people responsible for carrying that disease of darkness after having realised what they&#8217;d done by passing it on to others.</p>
<p>And darkness I&#8217;m using here as another metaphor to imply a distinct lack of ethics and empathy.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s what I took We3 to mean.
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